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I need to replace all rotors and pads on my 2005 r171 SLK55 AMG, but I don’t want to pay Mercedes dealer prices.

I need to replace all rotors and pads on my 2005 r171 SLK55 AMG, but I don’t want to pay Mercedes dealer prices.

1. Can anyone recommend high-quality — at least as good as OEM — reasonably-priced rotors & pads for all four wheels of my 2005 r171 SLK55 AMG?

2. Is there any performance/longevity/whatever difference between “silver zinc” plated or “black zinc” plated rotors?

Any serious opinions gratefully accepted.

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If I remember correctly your front discs are two part, if so don't expect a price anywhere close to normal discs.
You can try fcpeuro but stick to well regarded brands.
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Also the zinc plating is removed from the braking surface at pad bed in.

The plating makes no difference in brake performance and the appearance will only be different on non contact parts of the rotor.
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Either do it yourself, free labour or use an independent MB specialist for half the MB labour.

In the UK, many have source parts from europarts, typically Brembo at half the cost of oem.
I think Pelican parts are similar in the US.

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Obviously I assume a bit more shipping cost to USA? Free to UK.

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One option also is to have the outer part of the front disc re-manufactured.
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Do not discard the inner, I have saved mine so I can at my leisure have some outers made.
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If I remember correctly your front discs are two part, if so don't expect a price anywhere close to normal discs.
You can try fcpeuro but stick to well regarded brands.
Thanks, V117. My front rotors aren’t the two-part bi-metallic Brembo, like this:


https://www.slkworld.com/attachments...212_180744.jpg

But one-piece rotor and hat.

(Sorry for borrowing someone’s 2-part Brembo image, but I haven’t replaced my online image library yet)

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Thanks, V117. My front rotors aren’t the two-part bi-metallic Brembo, like this:


https://www.slkworld.com/attachments...212_180744.jpg

But one-piece rotor and hat.

(Sorry for borrowing someone’s 2-part Brembo image, but I haven’t replaced my online image library yet)

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Are you sure those aren't your rotors? My 05 and 06 both came with those. Later cars switched to the non-floating rotors. FCP Euro shows only the 2 piece rotors for 05 also. These should be yours:

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mer...mbo-1714210112

I would recommend Akebono pads as they are good and have very little dust. I am not sure why FCP doesn't list front ones, probably call them and they have them. Great place to work with and they are in the CT also. They might even be able to do the work for you.
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Duhhh... thanks for making me go out and look...

jet-fl: Thanks for making me go out and look to be sure — you’re absolutely right, my fronts ARE the Brembo two-piece rotors. My brain-fart was caused by being stuck in a chair with ice packs because of a lower back spasm for the past week+, so I was working from memory. At my age, memory isn’t eidetic, in fact it’s practically gone, as my wife reminds me often. Plus, I haven’t had this r171 very long, and it’s been a difficult winter. Those are the best excuses I’ve got...

Thanks again for your question, now I know I have to pay $350 per rotor. Anyone know if Brembo makes separate rotor disks to be used with the black aluminum (I think) centers?

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Are you sure those aren't your rotors? My 05 and 06 both came with those. Later cars switched to the non-floating rotors. FCP Euro shows only the 2 piece rotors for 05 also. These should be yours:

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/mer...mbo-1714210112

I would recommend Akebono pads as they are good and have very little dust. I am not sure why FCP doesn't list front ones, probably call them and they have them. Great place to work with and they are in the CT also. They might even be able to do the work for you.
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The assessment and work of re using the hats should only be done by a trained professional.
Also it's not very likely you'll find main disc only for far less than 350 (350 is actually pretty good!).
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The assessment and work of re using the hats should only be done by a trained professional.
Also it's not very likely you'll find main disc only for far less than 350 (350 is actually pretty good!).

I was wondering about this - how to ensure they're parallel to the hat. Are any special tools required for this task?
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I was wondering about this - how to ensure they're parallel to the hat. Are any special tools required for this task?
As a long-since-retired engineering machinist, the old way would have been to assemble the iron rotor and aluminum hat, chuck them in a lathe, then hand-turn the lathe to measure run-out of the rotor, then flip the assembly, and measure the run-out of the aluminum hat. These days it’s a similar process, but with a dedicated machine instead of a lathe, and a fixed measuring laser. Given that Brembo has carefully machined all surfaces involved — the hat to the hub, and the rotor to the hat — everything should come out well within spec.

Thanks to 55russamg for the link, I have contacted www.tarox.co.uk and await their answer.

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Ensuring geometry is only part of the work, the other critical aspect is assessing which hardware is in a good enough condition to be reused and which should be replaced.
A front brake failure is likely to result in serious consequences due to the tendency to fail when needed the most (under high demand).
I do not recommend this path for anyone without the proper training and experience.
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One option also is to have the outer part of the front disc re-manufactured.
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Do not discard the inner, I have saved mine so I can at my leisure have some outers made.
55russamg: Thanks for the info! Can you tell me how the inner aluminum hat is attached to the outer rotor, and what you’d need to put the assembly back together again with a new rotor?

https://dyw03owr7vs3n.cloudfront.net...jpg?1496489061

Thanks again!

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I've not disassembled my two piece rotors yet, and will probably just replace all pieces soon... But it's at least with a discussion: After you measure the difference in run-out, hat vs rotor, do you then mark and adjust the many little bolts present? Or do you loosen them all, then follow some process to align them?

It does beg the question "why two piece rotors in the first place". Unsprung weight savings? Or what?

Do the rotors move in relation to the hat when driving? Or over time as the pads wear? Or are they rigidly attached to each other?

I wholeheartedly agree this is not an area where you want any uncertainty or compromises!
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When I was looking there was about a $50 difference per rotor to buy just the whole assembly versus just the rotor with no hat. It wasn't worth my time for $50 a rotor. Have you found the rotor cheaper somewhere?
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How can I tell if I have “AMG Performance Package Code 030”

I found a seller who is offering a pair of the 2-piece Brembo rotors for US 548.86. There is a caveat:

“Important part details: without AMG Performance Package Code 030”

How can I tell if I have the “AMG Performance Package Code 030” or not? I didn’t see anything on the data card.

Thanks!

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BREMBO Set of 2 Front Brake Rotors CLK55 SLK55 AMG NEW

Price: US $548.86

This fits a 2005 Mercedes-Benz SLK55 AMG Base Convertible 2-Door 5.5L 5439CC 335Cu. In. V8 GAS SOHC Naturally Aspirated

Important part details: without AMG Performance Package Code 030

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2-piece Brembo front rotors for USD 548.86 per pair

efair: I've not disassembled my two piece rotors yet, and will probably just replace all pieces soon... But it's at least with a discussion: After you measure the difference in run-out, hat vs rotor, do you then mark and adjust the many little bolts present? Or do you loosen them all, then follow some process to align them? [/QUOTE=efair;4512414

Bart: I believe you tighten the little bolts in a criss-cross fashion, rather than “going around the ring.” Not sure what what the torque value is for the little bolts, but I bet somebody does.

efair: It does beg the question "why two piece rotors in the first place". Unsprung weight savings? Or what?

Bart: I doubt the aluminum hat adds much weight to the complete rotor; my guess is heat dissipation — something aluminum is very good at — which would explain the rectangular aluminum stand-offs, which I think transfer rotor heat to the aluminum hat, but of course I could be completely wrong. Anybody know?

efair: Do the rotors move in relation to the hat when driving? Or over time as the pads wear? Or are they rigidly attached to each other?

Bart: They’re rigidly attached, and the rotors do NOT move in relation to the hat when driving.

efair: I wholeheartedly agree this is not an area where you want any uncertainty or compromises![/QUOTE]

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