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My wifes 52 plate SLK 200 is in need of a full set of tyres. Currently the front are 205/55 R16 and the rear 225/50 R16. These were on the car when we got it and all four are different makes.

Im looking to put all season tyres on but cannot get these for the rear. Looking at the manual it seems you can have 205/55 R16 front and rear and as I can get all season tyres in this am thinking of swapping to this config but wanted to hear other peoples thoughts?

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From a purely personal point of view, if you want specific tyres for specific seasons get a set of winter tyres for November to March and summer tyres for the rest of the year. All season tyres are a compromise...niether great nor poor.
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MB did recommend using the same size wheels and tires for winter driving.
ie not staggered.

I use Michelins and drive year round, all weathers, including snow and ice ('07 55)
& on staggered wheels.
I'm not a million miles from your location, so weather is similar.
They are decent year round and give reasonable wear.

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From a purely personal point of view, if you want specific tyres for specific seasons get a set of winter tyres for November to March and summer tyres for the rest of the year. All season tyres are a compromise...niether great nor poor.
You CANNOT use winter tyres in UK, Nov to March. The ambient temperature when driving must be below 7c. Above this level, not only is the wear rate phenomenal, the tyre blocks do not perform as designed. There are very few parts of the UK where one spends a significant amount of time on the road when temperatures are this low. Possibly in D/J/F, in the small hours, this criterion is met for about 1/3 of the time, but if you look at averages from 7am - midnight, it's rare.

Of course, we have cold snaps (and heatwaves), and some of us live in tricky conditions, like on steep hills in a 'snow-spot' where for a few weeks, driving without specialised tyres is effectively ruled-out. Possession of a spare set of winter rims/tyres for those circumstances is a welcome luxury.

I have a winter set, mainly to keep the salt off my o/e rims, and partly because they have a narrower footprint and less staggering (8j rims on all corners), but even on those I don't have 'winter' tyres.
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Hi all,

My wifes 52 plate SLK 200 is in need of a full set of tyres. Currently the front are 205/55 R16 and the rear 225/50 R16. These were on the car when we got it and all four are different makes.

Im looking to put all season tyres on but cannot get these for the rear. Looking at the manual it seems you can have 205/55 R16 front and rear and as I can get all season tyres in this am thinking of swapping to this config but wanted to hear other peoples thoughts?

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I've done a lot of thinking about tyres over the years, with lots of different cars, particularly with respect to what makes most sense, for most of the time. As I mentioned in my previous post, here in the UK, our climate for the most part is blessedly benign - but usually we can expect to be driving either in rain, or perhaps worse in heavy showers after a dry period when the roads are very slippery. My conclusion is to get tyres that are 'A' rated for wet performance, don't pay the Earth, but change them well before the government mandated minimum of 1.6mm.

I'm running these on my 55 (in the appropriate size of course) and can't fault them:

https://www.mytyres.co.uk/rshop/Tyre...6-91V/R-242746

https://www.mytyres.co.uk/rshop/Tyre...6-92Y/R-252864

I have three daughters (no wife ) and these would be my first recommendation and preference for the safety of them and the five grandchildren.

Other brands make high-performing wet weather tyres and the links I provided were the first that came up from google, so you may well find cheaper elsewhere.
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Nothing inherently wrong with 205's all around, apart from aesthetics 😊

Saving up and getting a nice set of 17's or 18's for next summer and then reverting back to the 16's again in the winter could be a plan 🤔
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You CANNOT use winter tyres in UK, Nov to March. The ambient temperature when driving must be below 7c. Above this level, not only is the wear rate phenomenal, the tyre blocks do not perform as designed. There are very few parts of the UK where one spends a significant amount of time on the road when temperatures are this low. Possibly in D/J/F, in the small hours, this criterion is met for about 1/3 of the time, but if you look at averages from 7am - midnight, it's rare.

Of course, we have cold snaps (and heatwaves), and some of us live in tricky conditions, like on steep hills in a 'snow-spot' where for a few weeks, driving without specialised tyres is effectively ruled-out. Possession of a spare set of winter rims/tyres for those circumstances is a welcome luxury.

I have a winter set, mainly to keep the salt off my o/e rims, and partly because they have a narrower footprint and less staggering (8j rims on all corners), but even on those I don't have 'winter' tyres.

Mmmmmmmmm.......maybe in London that's the case but in other parts of the UK its not so cut and dried!
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Mmmmmmmmm.......maybe in London that's the case but in other parts of the UK its not so cut and dried!
I've got a m8 that runs winter tyres all year round on his Mondeo or whatever it is, think they're rated @ 70mph or something? He does drive like somebody's granny tho 😁

To be fair, OP did ask about all-season tyres, same size, rather than the staggered offset that most of us (UK at least) have. Can't see a problem with that myself. Apart from purist aesthetics.

And even then:

http://www.alloywheelsdirect.net/inf.../mercedes-benz
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My wifes 52 plate SLK 200 is in need of a full set of tyres. Currently the front are 205/55 R16 and the rear 225/50 R16. These were on the car when we got it and all four are different makes.

Im looking to put all season tyres on but cannot get these for the rear. Looking at the manual it seems you can have 205/55 R16 front and rear and as I can get all season tyres in this am thinking of swapping to this config but wanted to hear other peoples thoughts?

Thanks in advance
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I'd give a big thumbs up to all season tyres . Having lived in Buxton for a few years....shares the glorious winter weather of Leek, then all season tyres are a fantastic improvement for winter driving. I know its clamed that wet/dry stopping or cornering is not up with the best summer tyres but never had a problem when driving 'normally'. I've used Vredestein Quatrac 4 then Quatrac 5 on three different cars. As you say however not available in the wider/lower profile size. Can't comment on using same sized tyres all round but can't imagine any major issue.
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Just to clarify 'driving in snow'.

I'm talking thin layer and sufficiently below the underneath clearance of the car.
Not 6 inch deep, now get out of that snow.

If your worried you could always carry a set of snow socks.

I've had the 55 for over two years and drive it all the time.
Only had two slips, both in snow. Both minor and short lived.
Caused by numpties entering roundabouts at stupid speeds and having to brake harder than I wished.

Car safety systems worked brilliantly.

As long as your tyres are in good condition correctly inflated for those conditions,
I suspect you'd be fine if driving suitably.

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Mmmmmmmmm.......maybe in London that's the case but in other parts of the UK its not so cut and dried!
I keep forgetting Scotland is part of the UK......j/k

You, in Falkirk, I can see as one of the exceptions. Quite a long way north, and sufficiently east to miss much of the influence of the Gulf Stream. Even so, I'd be interested to see the data for days below 7c, Nov/March....

When my daughters were little, I bought them a toboggan ready for fun in the winter snow. Two of them grew out of it before they had a chance to play - due to a complete absence of snow. The youngest remembers just one special day that I skived off work to take her to Royal Greenwich Park, for the 'hill for thrills'.
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I have seen snow here twice - in 1957 and 1986. Didn't stick. We do get 55 inches or rain a year, more in July-Sept than London gets in a whole year. So I look first for wet traction particularly when 1/2 worn. Do not need to go beyond Conti, BFG, or Michelin.

Have BFG Comp T/As on the SLK320, 225/55ZR16 front and 245/50ZR16 rear. Work just fine for me.


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You might want to look at continental DWS06. I’ve been very pleased with them all around.
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Thanks for all the replies.

Plenty of food for thought so need to spend some cash and get it sorted now.
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You, in Falkirk, I can see as one of the exceptions. Quite a long way north, and sufficiently east to miss much of the influence of the Gulf Stream. Even so, I'd be interested to see the data for days below 7c, Nov/March.....

Well also the areas around the Peak District are also subject to some 'interesting weather'...where the OP is from. As a matter of interest I found this graph for Glasgow temperatures for the year.
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D/J/F average below 7c - of which many driving days will be above....
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You CANNOT use winter tyres in UK, Nov to March.

The reference to Nov to Mar is a nod to winter months. Of course you can use winter tyres all year round...crazy if you do, but some people do...The AA do on their recovery vehicles for a start.


Winter tyres are phenomenal in the wet/slush/ice/snow. If you're a crap driver then it'll make no difference. Some folk just don't get rear wheel drive!!!



Personally I don't have winter tyres for my SLK. During the colder months I'll drive my Passat for which I have a spare set of rims with Snowpro's on them. I've used them for 5 winters now and there's still loads of tread on them. Right tyres for the right conditions. As said in my first post..all season tyres are a compromise...neither great nor poor.
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The reference to Nov to Mar is a nod to winter months. Of course you can use winter tyres all year round...crazy if you do, but some people do...The AA do on their recovery vehicles for a start.


Winter tyres are phenomenal in the wet/slush/ice/snow. If you're a crap driver then it'll make no difference. Some folk just don't get rear wheel drive!!!



Personally I don't have winter tyres for my SLK. During the colder months I'll drive my Passat for which I have a spare set of rims with Snowpro's on them. I've used them for 5 winters now and there's still loads of tread on them. Right tyres for the right conditions. As said in my first post..all season tyres are a compromise...neither great nor poor.
'Cannot' was not the best word choice, in my hurry -'crazy if you do' or 'just plain stupid' would have been more appropriate.

I believe it's important that people are not misled, either by robust merchandising or ill-advised anecdote. Tyre manufacturers themselves admit that winter compound is sub-optimal above 7c - which as I said leaves very few UK citizens requiring winter tyres for the duration of the winter. A much greater proportion of us would benefit from a spare set, but practicality obviates that for many. In the meantime, all purpose tyres, with a nod to wet weather performance suit most people, most of the time, Jan-Dec.
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