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Tires: Replacing Toyos with Contis (at Discount Tire)
The first real rain of the "wet" season happened in the last 2 days and I noticed a bit of traction issues with my Toyo Proxes 4. Checking, they are down to the treadwear indicators and measuring about 3/32 so no wonder I was getting excellent traction on the dry and less in the wet. Point number one: less tread can mean better dry traction but worse wet traction so don't think that because your dry traction is good your tires are OK.
My Toyo Proxes 4 have been excellent tires: about 30k miles, 5 years and very even wear. I am pretty easy on tires and I don't track this car. The Toya Proxes UTQG are 240. Point two: I have no problem recommending Toyo Proxes 4 for casual and somewhat spirited all season tires.
I am going to switch to a brand I have never owned more as a comparison than a criticism. The Conti DWS UTQG is 540 so it will be interesting to find out the real tread life. Although it will take me at least 4 more years that's OK because I tend to keep my vehicles forever. Point three: the UTQG is a comparision rating based on the wear rate of the tire when tested under controlled conditions on a specified government test track and is usually only good to compare tires by the same manufacturer.
Reading through lloydga's and others posts it looks like Discount Tire is the place to go in the US so I popped up the website, chose the tires and made an appointment (Seattle this Thursday). The website is great (simple and complete) and I like the all-in pricing. I did call a few other suppliers and was given the "raw" tire price a few times so when I added the taxes, install etc Discount was a good price. So point four is when comparison shopping based on price, request the all-in pricing.
As lloydga noted the same tires in Canada are about $400 more expensive. In order to avoid duty I need to spend 48 hours in US so decided to try HotWire and booked the Sheraton in Seattle for $140 a night so I get new tires, a trip to Seattle, two nights at the Sheraton and enough left for dinners and fuel. Seems like a bargain. Point five is buy tires at Discount Tire since they are really including a nice hotel and dinner.
PS Hey Discount Tire: any added bonus for the blatant product endorsement?
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