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A word of caution on the Hankook Ventus R-S3

I replaced my rear Nitto NT05’s with the Ventus R-S3; I had plenty of clearance with the 275 Nitto’s so I ordered the Ventus in 285, but to my surprise the Ventus is almost an inch wider than the Nitto, not the expected 10mm.
I had the tires heat cycled, they feel to the touch like racing slicks
At the same time I installed Bilstein Shocks and HR Springs.







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Arno - those are your "modified" 9.5 rear rims, correct? I've got a set of stock 030 18's, and was thinking about wrapping them and giving them a try vs the 19's I've got on there now...

Figure if I don't like 'em I'll just put 'em on the '350!



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Arno - those are your "modified" 9.5 rear rims, correct? I've got a set of stock 030 18's, and was thinking about wrapping them and giving them a try vs the 19's I've got on there now...

Figure if I don't like 'em I'll just put 'em on the '350!
Yes, these are my modded OEM wheels.
You can’t beat the 19s for looks, but in my opinion the 18s are the best for performance in the real world.


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You can’t beat the 19s for looks, but in my opinion the 18s are the best for performance in the real world.
Totally agree w/ you there Arno, that's why I've kept my OEM 16 spoke 18's for track action!!
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Arno, I know I've asked before - what's the widest tire I'll be able to get on the stock rear 18' rims sans rubbing and any other issues?

Was looking at the Ventus V12's, 255x35 for the rears, 225x40 for the fronts. Thoughts?



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Stock rims being 8.5 in the front and 9.5 in the rear??


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Arno, I know I've asked before - what's the widest tire I'll be able to get on the stock rear 18' rims sans rubbing and any other issues?

Was looking at the Ventus V12's, 255x35 for the rears, 225x40 for the fronts. Thoughts?
OEM 18-inch 16-spoke AMG rims:

This is what I have for the rears: 255/35R18 for the Hankook Ventus V12.
Same size for the fronts: 225/40R18, I still have the Yokohama S.Drive.

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Stock rims being 8.5 in the front and 9.5 in the rear??
My OEM 16 spoke 18's are 7.5 front/8.5 rear.
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Arno, I know I've asked before - what's the widest tire I'll be able to get on the stock rear 18' rims sans rubbing and any other issues?

Was looking at the Ventus V12's, 255x35 for the rears, 225x40 for the fronts. Thoughts?
John,

Those should be no prob w/ your OEM rims.
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the new tires look awesome!
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OEM 18-inch 16-spoke AMG rims:

This is what I have for the rears: 255/35R18 for the Hankook Ventus V12.
Same size for the fronts: 225/40R18, I still have the Yokohama S.Drive.

How you liking the V12's Eddy? Seem to get great reviews...



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How you liking the V12's Eddy? Seem to get great reviews...
Not bad. My perception is as follows: Goodyear F1 Asymmetrics > Hankook Ventus V12 Evo > Yokohama S.Drive > Pirelli P Zero

I feel most confident taking hard corners with the Goodyear F1 Asymmetrics. My next set may be the Continental Extreme Contact DW.

Current fronts (Yokohama) are at 5/32 remaining and the rears (Hankook) at 7/32 on tread wear.

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Arno, I know I've asked before - what's the widest tire I'll be able to get on the stock rear 18' rims sans rubbing and any other issues?

Was looking at the Ventus V12's, 255x35 for the rears, 225x40 for the fronts. Thoughts?
Keep in mind that my car has about 9.5K miles; I’m on my fourth set of tires; not for need but for experimenting.
The Hankooks are about one size wider than expected for the numbers (both the V12s and the R-S3s)
So, the 255s will fit just fine on OEM wheels (try the 265s and let us know) 265s, like the Nitto NT05, should have no problems.
235-40-18 for the front is perfect.


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How you liking the V12's Eddy? Seem to get great reviews...
My two cents worth:
The V12s are superior to most all around; add cost “standing above all”
One of the most comfortable and quiet tires in existence; pushed to the limit they need to be shaved by a minimum of 1/8”.


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I guess most tyre assessments are mainly around dry performance but when wet is taken into account which is a major issue in the UK the Assy f1 is way ahead of anything I have tried athough Im not so fussed on its dry performance.
The conti 5p seems to get good reviews for both wet and dry so I might try these next.
It would be helpful to comment on both dry and wet performance and i would say from my experience on 18"

Goodyear assy F1 wet -exceptional feel good traction dry- good traction poor feel
Continental 2 wet- poor allround dry -poor traction good feel

I think Etyu is on the same wavelength as me with his assessments thanks for the info. Propdr is pushing the size envelope but personally I dont find bigger is better, grip maybe but drifting fun no. Im thinking of going back to 245 rears or 255 rear with 235 front to get the car balanced again.
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Nigel, you know that I have high regards for your opinion, but the V12 has outstanding reviews for wet weather performance and I can attest to it from a 900mile run in mostly wet conditions; from just wet roads to torrential downpour.
Ask Eddy about the sudden rain storms in southern California, especially in the mountains north of Los Angeles


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Hey Arno the feeling is mutual and I could live with a Cali rain storm or two !
In Euro reviews the V12 is not rated so highly losing out to conti3 etc etc. I take your real world views into account (above the tests actually)such that im going to try them on my Audi first and see how I get on with them.
The other thing is that not all tyres are the same compound/construction, for instance a malaysia built assy f1 is nothing like as good as a german built one they look the same but are nothing a like, Goodyear had a real PR disaster in the EU with this about 2 years ago.
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OK folks, time for an update with mods so far in 2011:

- shorty antenna
- aluminum door pins
- windows tinted to 38%
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- and finally just ordered Mandrus Manheims in 18 X 8.5 front and 18 X 9.5 rears (Gun
Metal) - tire also ordered - Hankook V12's in 235x40x18 and 255x35x18.

My only concern is the stock 280 brakes behind the Manheims, but that will be a project for 2012.

Essentially a new car. I will update my photos once the transformation is done. Thanks to everyone and SLKWorld for all the support and information.

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Thanks for the comments (and sorry for the hijack!). Hankook is running a $60us off a set of tires, and I wanted to wrap the 18's I had anyway, so they seem like a pretty inexpensive experiment.

Out of curiosity - why 40's on the front rather than 35's? Been meaning to ask that question, and figure between Nigel and Arno, I'll get an interesting opinion! Personally, would have though the shorter sidewalls would have resulted in "stiffer" handling on the twisty bits?

I think I'm going to go with 235's up front, 255's in the back..


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