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Well, I'll see one tomorrow (Wed). Taking the 2012 in for A5 service. A guy I talked to at length several weeks ago was supposed to call when one came in, phone didn't ring. Saw it on their web site a week ago. Must not be too anxious to sell. I don't understand some people. I'll probably find a new guy there or somewhere else. Hmph.

Some chance my 18,700 mile loaded 350 may come up for sale. Y'all will be the first to know.
 

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No soap today, pouring rain. Tomorrow too probably. Can't test the oomph in the wet.

Blew off the salesman who didn't call as promised. Told the replacement I was here to see the SLC43 they had on their web site for a week.

"What? You mean the GLC? [no after every guess]? The CLA? The CLS? The GLA? The GLE? The GLS? The STD?"

I repeated "SLC" over and over to no avail. I asked, "Are you up on these?" FINALLY he got it. The SLC43 was a mere 30 feet away the whole time, but just out of sight. Duh.

The SLC43 was a stripper, radio & heater & spare and that was it (only old timers will get that ref). Did have the awful Night Package which reminded me of a 1998 Eclipse base model with the black mirrors njunk. The grill was all Harley Earle 1958 Roadmaster.

No cornering lights (he asked someone) like my 350 as I correctly suspected in discussions here a while back, but net gain with the LSD headlights, I guess. But I liked those, they were a nice surprise (old eyes). Salesman had never heard of them, had to splain. Still no touch screen, alas. The Knob is my least favorite "feature" - so slow and tedious compared to my Lincoln MKT. Better off with a Texaco map, I told him. His defense was laughable.

Salesman says "It's got all these standard features," completely ignoring everything I said: only interested on one thing, how it goes. Typical overselling. I knew all that minutia.

When I was selling desktop computers decades ago, I got my sales pitch down to "What do you need?" (LISTEN) "OK, it does that. Sign here."

[end of rant, I'll show myself out]
 

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No soap today, pouring rain. Tomorrow too probably. Can't test the oomph in the wet.

Blew off the salesman who didn't call as promised. Told the replacement I was here to see the SLC43 they had on their web site for a week.

"What? You mean the GLC? [no after every guess]? The CLA? The CLS? The GLA? The GLE? The GLS? The STD?"

I repeated "SLC" over and over to no avail. I asked, "Are you up on these?" FINALLY he got it. The SLC43 was a mere 30 feet away the whole time, but just out of sight. Duh.

The SLC43 was a stripper, radio & heater & spare and that was it (only old timers will get that ref). Did have the awful Night Package which reminded me of a 1998 Eclipse base model with the black mirrors njunk. The grill was all Harley Earle 1958 Roadmaster.

No cornering lights (he asked someone) like my 350 as I correctly suspected in discussions here a while back, but net gain with the LSD headlights, I guess. But I liked those, they were a nice surprise (old eyes). Salesman had never heard of them, had to splain. Still no touch screen, alas. The Knob is my least favorite "feature" - so slow and tedious compared to my Lincoln MKT. Better off with a Texaco map, I told him. His defense was laughable.

Salesman says "It's got all these standard features," completely ignoring everything I said: only interested on one thing, how it goes. Typical overselling. I knew all that minutia.

When I was selling desktop computers decades ago, I got my sales pitch down to "What do you need?" (LISTEN) "OK, it does that. Sign here."

[end of rant, I'll show myself out]
Sorry you didn't like it but hey, you drive this.....
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/02/Lincoln_MKT_--_03-09-2011.jpg
:surprise::surprise::surprise::surprise::surprise:
And you don't like the SLC grille????? :grin:
One mans meat etc. etc.........
TonyS
 

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No soap today, pouring rain. Tomorrow too probably. Can't test the oomph in the wet.

Blew off the salesman who didn't call as promised. Told the replacement I was here to see the SLC43 they had on their web site for a week.

"What? You mean the GLC? [no after every guess]? The CLA? The CLS? The GLA? The GLE? The GLS? The STD?"

I repeated "SLC" over and over to no avail. I asked, "Are you up on these?" FINALLY he got it. The SLC43 was a mere 30 feet away the whole time, but just out of sight. Duh.

The SLC43 was a stripper, radio & heater & spare and that was it (only old timers will get that ref). Did have the awful Night Package which reminded me of a 1998 Eclipse base model with the black mirrors njunk. The grill was all Harley Earle 1958 Roadmaster.

No cornering lights (he asked someone) like my 350 as I correctly suspected in discussions here a while back, but net gain with the LSD headlights, I guess. But I liked those, they were a nice surprise (old eyes). Salesman had never heard of them, had to splain. Still no touch screen, alas. The Knob is my least favorite "feature" - so slow and tedious compared to my Lincoln MKT. Better off with a Texaco map, I told him. His defense was laughable.

Salesman says "It's got all these standard features," completely ignoring everything I said: only interested on one thing, how it goes. Typical overselling. I knew all that minutia.

When I was selling desktop computers decades ago, I got my sales pitch down to "What do you need?" (LISTEN) "OK, it does that. Sign here."

[end of rant, I'll show myself out]
Wow. I can't believe they didn't phone you back.

Anyhow....

From the Mercedes website

Mercedes Benz Official SLC Literature said:
Headlamps – LED Intelligent Light System with Adaptive Highbeam Assist Plus LED headlamps, highbeam and direction indicator
LED position light, cornering light and daytime running lamps
Dynamic headlamp range adjustment for ideal visibility in all weather, lighting and driving conditions
Variable light distribution for driving on country roads and motorways as well as in heavy fog
Active light function allows headlamps to pivot into bends by up to 15°
to illuminate road surface more e ectively, improving visibility
Cornering light function: two LEDs per headlamp improve road illumination in tight bends by automatically switching on cornering light on the relevant side
Enhanced fog lamp function illuminates outer half of the carriageway more e ectively while reducing glare due to light re ected by fog. Can be activated at speeds below 44 mph and remains switched on up to 62 mph Welcome home function lights up LED bre optics in the headlamps in blue after unlocking the vehicle, transitioning to white locator lighting
It appears it does have cornering lights. Gosh. Who'd have thought it?
 

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It appears it does have cornering lights. Gosh. Who'd have thought it?
You were never able to post a picture of where they "appear" exactly. Got yet another salesman today, same response. He did praise the LED lights, though. Guess we'll see, so to speak.

So where are they, once again?

Edit: Looks like your quote came from this page, which appears to be a general discussion of LED headlight systems. Nowhere does it mention or show a picture of an SLC. It the SLC is mentioned or pictured there, where is it, exactly? Thanks!

https://techcenter.mercedes-benz.com/en/led_intelligent_light_system/detail.html
 

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OK, picked up the 2012 today. No problems found. Got yet another salesman, asked for their most experienced one. Nice guy! Very helpful, didn't have to educate him. Gave me a massive 48 page "Dealer Ordering Guide."

We decided that rather than driving the stripper, we'd wait for one coming in that had everything but Premium 3 arriving in about 10 days. That way I can also check out the new nav system and other stuff too. It also has the performance package, but I doubt we'll be able to test that much.

They did charge me $4.40 for washer fluid, even though I've never used the washers since I got it one year ago. Only been rained on three times counting yesterday. Complaining was met with a shrug.
 

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You were never able to post a picture of where they "appear" exactly. Got yet another salesman today, same response. He did praise the LED lights, though. Guess we'll see, so to speak.

So where are they, once again?

Edit: Looks like your quote came from this page, which appears to be a general discussion of LED headlight systems. Nowhere does it mention or show a picture of an SLC. It the SLC is mentioned or pictured there, where is it, exactly? Thanks!

https://techcenter.mercedes-benz.com/en/led_intelligent_light_system/detail.html
The quote was lifted from the UK SLC brochure. Now, obviously you'll point out that the steering wheel is on the wrong side but fundamentally, it's the same car and the same headlamps.

UK SLC MY2017 Brochure

It's on page 23.

As to how it works, the LEDs are arranged in a matrix that point at different points of the lenses in front of the LED. Different LEDs are illuminated to give different effects, so you can't actually see the cornering lights anymore, they're hidden behind the main lens.

The cornering lights bit come on whenever the car detects an extreme steering angle (low speed corner) or the sat nav tells the lights that a bend is approaching (higher speeds). It's more like beam-shaping than separate lights.

They're absolutely amazing, even compared the R172 xenons, which are pretty good in themselves.
 

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I want to get a direct comparison between the SLC petrol with a 9 sp Auto vs my SLK diesel with a 7 sp, so I'm taking out an AMG Line 200 Auto for a test tomorrow (no SLC 43 demonstrator + I can't justify the extra expense for my use these days) It's got the LED headlamps but I doubt I'll get much chance to try them out. After the abysmal halogens on my current car, I'm prepared to give the LED ones a go even at £1,150 (ouch), cos they're quoting £9,686 off list for the whole package on carwow. :smile:
 

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The quote was lifted from the UK SLC brochure. Now, obviously you'll point out that the steering wheel is on the wrong side but fundamentally, it's the same car and the same headlamps.

UK SLC MY2017 Brochure

It's on page 23.

As to how it works, the LEDs are arranged in a matrix that point at different points of the lenses in front of the LED. Different LEDs are illuminated to give different effects, so you can't actually see the cornering lights anymore, they're hidden behind the main lens.

The cornering lights bit come on whenever the car detects an extreme steering angle (low speed corner) or the sat nav tells the lights that a bend is approaching (higher speeds). It's more like beam-shaping than separate lights.

They're absolutely amazing, even compared the R172 xenons, which are pretty good in themselves.
Well, my current "cornering lights" come on below 20mph with the turn signal even if the wheel is pointed straight ahead. They also come on below 20mph when you start a turn without signaling. Nothing whatsoever to do with "extreme steering angle," just a touch does it, almost instant. I doubt my sat nav knows about my driveway or alley, which is where you need this. I see no such functionality in your description. That sounds like it's more for bust-ass road driving than turning into driveways or at neighborhood intersections with curbs. So nice for driving, but completely different functionally as I stated last time. Your quote makes no mention of turn signals etc. etc. I think part of the problem is the definition of "cornering lights." On my car, it's a separate light with a side-reflecting mirror. "Cornering" can mean driving, as in "good cornering," or here, something for illuminating driveways and such at low speed. Still looks like the SLC lacks the latter. Net gain overall, though, as I said.

The headlights themselves are indeed amazing. The salesman said one customer said they were great for finding deer in the country. Night and day, so to speak. :nerd:

Add: just checked, my cornering lights come on, even in Park, with the turn signals or a slight touch of the wheel. Completely different thing.
 

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Continuing to weaken. All this talk takes away my self-discipline. This would be my second car with a grill like this. The first was a 1954 Chevy 210 two-door. I replaced the grill teeth with chrome drawer pulls. Radical custom, po' man's Buick. That was a thing then.

Another observation I forgot to mention and had on my list to check: what Mercedes calls "outer air intakes" are completely solid. No air going in there. I suspect the real purpose is to help with slowing down from high speed, creating an exciting windblown sound out on the Autobahn, or maybe making the hoi polloi think you are one of them in a Ford Escape. Should help sell pressure washers too (already set there). /s
 
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