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Smart tech is to be mandatory on government-funded chargers from next year, and it could pave the way for taxing electricity...

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/smart-charging-could-lead-electric-vehicle-fuel-tax

So. All of you in the U.K. who've installed smart meters, please raise your hands.... Now realise why the U.K. government is pushing to install smart meters everywhere. The way you pay for electricity will change. Not just for electric cars but for all electricity consumption.
 

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Smart tech is to be mandatory on government-funded chargers from next year, and it could pave the way for taxing electricity...

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/smart-charging-could-lead-electric-vehicle-fuel-tax

So. All of you in the U.K. who've installed smart meters, please raise your hands.... Now realise why the U.K. government is pushing to install smart meters everywhere. The way you pay for electricity will change. Not just for electric cars but for all electricity consumption.
Thers shafting uk people and theres shafting us more so for tax .
If Air was Taxable they would .
 

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I've so far I've held "them" off from installing a not so Smart Meter(s), even though "Us" consumers are paying for them to be installed & they are not saving the amount of Electricity being consumed as was advised by "some expert" or other...

But thought that only the 2nd Generation Smart Meters could do the delayed electric car charging to stop the massive Electricity demand around 5 to 6pm, when people come home & put the kettle on...!!
>> Check out the live UK Electric usage: https://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/

Inevitable - as electric cars become more widely used where are they going to recover the fuel taxes they are losing?
Total agree - Currently our UK Government is over £1.8 trillion pounds in debt:
>> UK National Debt Details: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_national_debt
Governments earns very little money as such, so needs to collect that money from one source or another..

On a lighter note, the Lady BMW owner in the article needs to go on a half day Heath & Safety course on "How to un-roll a mains lead", so not to create a trip hazard...!!! :nerd:
 

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I've so far I've held "them" off from installing a not so Smart Meter(s), even though "Us" consumers are paying for them to be installed & they are not saving the amount of Electricity being consumed as was advised by "some expert" or other...

But thought that only the 2nd Generation Smart Meters could do the delayed electric car charging to stop the massive Electricity demand around 5 to 6pm, when people come home & put the kettle on...!!
>> Check out the live UK Electric usage: https://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/


Total agree - Currently our UK Government is over £1.8 trillion pounds in debt:
>> UK National Debt Details: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_national_debt
Governments earns very little money as such, so needs to collect that money from one source or another..

On a lighter note, the Lady BMW owner in the article needs to go on a half day Heath & Safety course on "How to un-roll a mains lead", so not to create a trip hazard...!!! :nerd:
1st generation smart meters were rubbish and could trip up and cut off your electric / gas i heard ?
2nd Generation just a way to monitor you with that sim and yes tax you more so .

DATA is GOLD

AVOID AVOID ! >:D
 

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Current position [see what I did there?]

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/smart-meters-how-they-work

I wonder how long the information below will stand?

Supplier led roll-out
The government requires energy companies to install smart meters for their customers, and has set out rules to ensure that they do this in a way that is in the interests of consumers, including rules around:

data access and privacy
security
technical standards for the smart metering equipment
meeting the needs of vulnerable consumers
Smart meters will be rolled out as standard across the country by the end of 2020. But there is no legal obligation on you to have one.
 

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Inevitable, as said.
And all those service stations keen to install chargers.
Yet businesses have been barely interested. Wonder why?


As mentioned above, I have several friends who lost gas and electric thanks to faults in the meters.


On a plus side for electric cars.
I saw an article (can't find it right now) where a major city (Asia, I think),

is building single lane tunnels under congested streets.
E cars will be able to hit speeds of up to 150mph.

Cuts commute times drastically.
But:-

1. How to make 150mph boring.

2. Any failure and you are in a confined space. Imagine a fire in such circumstances.


Don't blame electric though.
Any replacement power source will eventually be taxed.
Such is the nature of the beast.
 

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Current position [see what I did there?]

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/smart-meters-how-they-work

I wonder how long the information below will stand?

Supplier led roll-out
The government requires energy companies to install smart meters for their customers, and has set out rules to ensure that they do this in a way that is in the interests of consumers, including rules around:

data access and privacy
security
technical standards for the smart metering equipment
meeting the needs of vulnerable consumers
Smart meters will be rolled out as standard across the country by the end of 2020. But there is no legal obligation on you to have one.

Call me a dinosaur but I will resist having a smart meter until they physically force me to have one.................👍
 

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Call me a dinosaur but I will resist having a smart meter until they physically force me to have one.................👍
Or Alexa that can / does record
Or Facebook new video interface that oh no will not get hacked so some one can view you in your bedroom when you forget to put the shutter camera flap down . :grin:
 

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Or Alexa that can / does record
Or Facebook new video interface that oh no will not get hacked so some one can view you in your bedroom when you forget to put the shutter camera flap down . :grin:
Or smart tv, fridge etc

Some will know more about us than we know about ourselves.

Oh!
Hang on, me candle's blown out. :|
 

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Or smart tv, fridge etc

Some will know more about us than we know about ourselves.

Oh!
Hang on, me candle's blown out. :|
My screens are all Large screen Monitors at home and at work so no chance of any snoopers on that side of things just need to put my smart phone in a lead type box . :grin:
 

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Smart tech is to be mandatory on government-funded chargers from next year, and it could pave the way for taxing electricity...

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/smart-charging-could-lead-electric-vehicle-fuel-tax

So. All of you in the U.K. who've installed smart meters, please raise your hands.... Now realise why the U.K. government is pushing to install smart meters everywhere. The way you pay for electricity will change. Not just for electric cars but for all electricity consumption.
Domestic electricity is already taxed - VAT is payable.
 

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The trouble is this new technology is always presented in a way that the users wonder how they could possibly manage without it and fall over themselves welcoming it in. Someone mentioned smart fridges the idea is that the fridge will sense you getting low on certain essentials and reorder them for you. So now external sources can monitor your families consumption of food and target specific advertising to you................
No thanks.
I'll go back to a cold store in the cellar before I get a smart fridge.......
 

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Domestic electricity is already taxed - VAT is payable.
Will not the smart meter reconize a high constant demand as in a electric car plugged in being used and hence a higher price at peak times = additional Tax / vat / electric car tax being added to your existing bill .

Hence why there called Smart . :grin:
 
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