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I was initially confused as to which particular lift incident to which thee was referring, there has been the odd few over the many years, now I see, that lift incident !! That was minor really, compared to 25 years ago when a 4 year old SL Merc got driven off of a four poster by one of my Fitters when the lift was at full height 🙃 🙃🙃
The Car dealer wasn't too impressed so I ended up buying it off him and re-shelling it 🤣
 

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I got ya now, hadn't spotted all the posts, so I edited # 2225 above ;)
 

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Heading south soon, family wedding :)

Storm brewing up here so while we're away lets put D15KOE and my S Class away in the warm cosy Workshop ................
Question is how much do I trust the lift pillar locks ? ....





Yeah, they'll be fine :D :D :D
I'd lay some bubble wrap on the Merc roof just in case :oops:
 

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I'd lay some bubble wrap on the Merc roof just in case
LOL, Bubble wrap, bless ya Jason :ROFLMAO: That'd be the least of it's worries if D15KOE drops on it ;)

Worry ye not, the locks are in solid and the Lift has been lowered onto the locks, it isn't going anywhere ............ (I hope) ;) ;) ;)

Here's another of my skullduggerous and hilarious motor trade stories from the good old dayz when I had the big Transmission Firm "darn sarf" :-

There is the tale of the old 1960's Vintage Rolls Royce Funeral Car, it was winter, snow on the ground, and the Undertakers manager guy had had a recovery firm leave it outside our workshop overnight, despite me insisting they did not do that, due to the value of the vehicle, and the possibility of damage on a deserted Industrial Estate, no it wouldn't be covered by our insurance, etc etc yak yak yak I had told him !!

Y'all know where this is going don't ya's :D :D :D

I arrived at 9am, the Limo was covered in snow and ice .................

So I started it up, switched the heater on to clear the windows, and to see if I could move it into a more sensible position I popped it into Reverse, nothing, not even an attempt to move, into D, same thing ..............

The phone was ringing, I hadn't put it back into N, I hopped out in a rush to answer the phone, the Limo was outside running and warming up, smoke / steam pouring from it's tailpipe and running on a little choke, so like a fast idle ..............

Do I need to tell ya what happens next ................

Yep, the knack-bar forward clutch warms up inside the Auto Trans and bites, and off it toddles across the industrial estate at about 15 mph until it comes to a Tee junction where there is "Fat Sam's" Snack Bar Trailer in a Car Parking area opposite, so first it smashes through the small low railings and then into Sams Food Trailer which moved a few yards before the whole chebang comes to rest still running on choke with the wheels spinning on the ice 🤣 🤣 🤣 .......................

Sam is a bit of a religious fella, and sees no one is driving it, his face was an absolute picture, I reckon he'd pappered his pantaloons :ROFLMAO:

but, come 'ere, there's more ..................

After recovering it back to our workshop and swearing Fat Sam to secrecy in exchange for some folding, I rang the Undertakers Manager and moaned at him that as per my prediction he shouldn't have left it there, and it appeared that someone had bashed it overnight 🤣

He said he could cover more money, to do the gearbox job and please could we get it repaired and not let his boss know, he was almost in tears, asked me to add the body repair onto our quote for the Gearbox, so i just had to help the poor guy out 👿

Even back then we had to go to somewhere in the middle of Norfolk "Sticks" to find an old fella who broke old Rolls, and buy a wing, bumper and a load of trim pieces, then we bolted it all back together and gave the whole sorry mess to Johnny na na the painter and he sorted it out, much to the relief of said Manager of the Funerial establishment ;)

Manager didn't tell the big boss man, and I don't think he ever did find out ;)

Oh manny, which story do I tell ya next, that one was one of the real corkers, I should write a book ;)
 

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How many tickets d'ya reckon I'll get between here and Englandshire in the AMG Wagon in the wee small hours ? :D :D :D

Still no envelope regarding the A9 Northbound last Saturday morning :p
 
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I was initially confused as to which particular lift incident to which thee was referring
What really concerns me that you had to ask which ones?!

Like, damn dude, either update the lifts or replace it.

I had just the one lift mishap, years ago, still remember it like was yesterday.

Chevy Impala, for LOF, I pretty much yoloed the lift arms by kicking it under the car and lifted it up. All was fine until I reached up the engine to fight a stubborn oil filter, the whole car shifts. One arm slips and whole car starts to tripod. It titters and totters on three points.

Like an idiot I try to hold on to the car (keep in mind my arm is already up in the engine bay) and miraculously it holds.

Yell like an idiot until someone notices, comes and raises the lift just enough to release the locks, and then slowly lowers it with me holding on to it.

I should've been a red paste on the floor that day. Very lucky, and since then I've been super duper religious about doing the bounce test at every lift, and double checking every lift arm positions, both on ground and in air.
 

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My lift is 100% remember last Xmas shut down, I spent a lot of time overhauling Workshop stuff and tidying up, dumped about 2 tonnes of scrap etc etc ;)

Most of the lift incidents were my employees way back when, I had one pillock who pushed a BMW under the back end of our 4 poster, I was working at the front, with lift at half height, so the Car on the lift was obscuring my view, I couldn't see what he had done, and yep, straight onto the bootlid of said Bee em ;)

Anyways, as I said, no Mercedes were harmed during the production, and no drips from the D15KOE, who has been leak free for about a month + now :D :D :D

The little bits you can see on the roof and screen are just leaf dross which were there when I parked it there ;) ....









Wedding was great, but I now have a new claim to fame, I had 2 women take me to bed about 11pm :ROFLMAO:
Mel and her ex husbands partner escorted moi to the room .....................

Being older these days, lord knows how many beers, single malt chasers, and a very nice bottle of red all took it's toll, and both myself and Mels ex had to be propped up, escorted and dumped in our rooms 🤣 It was a great day though, and from what I heard went on into the wee hours, he and I were probably in the best place ;)

Back to reality ;) ............
 

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So just getting back into some work, thought I'd fix another D15KOE small issue ...............

The Blind Catches Hook on my passenger side front Sunroof Blind was broken, I doubt you can buy these separately, but anyway, Roddy kindly supplied me with the blinds cloth mesh part cut from one of his breaker Disco's, that piece had a good catch so I very carefully un glued it's 2 halves, and replaced D15KOE's busted one :)

The broken one removed ....



New one fitted with a dab of Superglue between its 2 halves locating lugs ....



Works a treat :) ....



Better go do some paying work now :D
 

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I finally got started on stripping out D15KOE's Engine Loom to add the extra wire for the 15P AAP / IAT Sensor, which is a prior requirement before swapping in the 15P NNN ECU, pleased to report I only snapped one bolt getting the Battery Box outta the way, and that should come out with the old "weld a nut on the broken stub trick" tomorrow ;)

Also a pleasing sight is the outer edges of the inner wing are actually still there :ROFLMAO:
In actual fact the right Inner wing looks quite good from what I can now see, yeah it does require a bit of welding, but nowhere near what I had expected, so will get to that soon ;)

I'll get some pixels up tomorrow when I'm a bit deeper in and got that Engine loom free enough to pull it one way and the other through the Manifold in order to completely encase the new wire, may not need to completely remove it from the Car if I can get it moving how I think I can :D
Battery Box out ....



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Back to D15KOE works over the weekend.

So lets explain a couple of things. Early Discovery 2's have TD5 "10P" (series) Engine, it runs via a non re-writeable MSB xxxxxx ECU, so without changing the chip these cannot be remapped, they are Euro 2 Emission spec.
My D15KOE has had the later TD5 "15P" Engine and Transmission fitted from a later D2, these run via an NNN xxxxxx ECU, this can be easily remapped / re-written, so it was always my intention to swap it and remap at some point. The NNN ECU and 15P Engine with many improvements are Euro 3 spec Emission.
I have already done EGR delete, he has no CAT, and I added the bigger Intercooler and a free flowing centre Exhaust section, so he will respond well to a Stage 1 Re-map, (which I have the file for), a very reliable spec giving an extra 35-40bhp and 65-75Nm Torque :D

Now as reported D15KOE has been running the best he ever has since the Engine Mounts, driving well, but because he is running so well I have still had a niggle that the Engine still wasn't as good as it should be power and smoothness wise, so I dun did a ton of reading, and as with all Engine conversions came up with a ton of info, some was obvious rubbish, some written by folks who probably know no better, and a few bit's by the knowledgeable guys, so I sorted the wheat from the chaff etc etc etc.

Having discussed this with guys who run Land Rover Independent shops and have mucho experience of such things, the nuts of it is this TD5 wise ............

If your Engine goes bang you can fit an early 10P Engine in a later 15P D2, and it will run fine on the Euro 3 NNN ECU ................
BUT .... Do like the Mookies did to mine, and fit a 15P Engine in a 10P Discovery, and it will NEVER run at it's best without also using the later Engine Loom, Air Filter box lid with AAP / IAT Sensor, and the later NNN ECU ........................

On D15KOE, whilst he has the later 15P Engine, his Engine Loom, Air Box lid, and AAP Sensor are all the original early 10P items !! <<< Note that I didn't say AAP / IAT sensor, because it isn't, it is only an Ambient Air Temp sensor, no Inlet Air Temp. Also another two crucial differences between 10P and 15P Engines is that the Injectors are totally different, 15P run smaller nozzles and a higher fuel pressure to get a cleaner more efficient burn, thankfully the Injectors are not interchangeable between 10P and 15P Engines otherwise I feel sure the Mookies would have hammered an old set into the Cylinder Head if they physically could have :ROFLMAO: I already verified mine are correct and the NNN ECU runs a lot more complex Mapping which also needs to see Inlet Air Temp !!
Final thing of note is whilst you can actually enter the 15P's Injector Codings into a 10P ECU and it will accept them, it does not compute properly and therefore fudges the Fuelling ;)
Since the last week or 2, (significant drop in Air Temperature up here), I have noticed on a cold morning he doesn't run as nice as he does when fully up to temp on a warmer day ;)

This all means that the 15P Engine will never run as it should on the early 10P NNN ECU ;)

The good news is the only difference between the 2 Engine Looms is that there is one extra wire between the AAP / IAT Sensor and ECU.

Final difference not yet mentioned is that the later Discos run a 3 Track Throttle Pedal, Early Disco uses 2 Track Pedal, mine has 2 Track, so the Main Body Wiring between Pedal and ECU also carries an extra wire.
BUT, having spoken in person to a fair few of the experts, and sifted the real experts from the chaff, the peeps that know say this makes no difference at all, except the ECU will post a fault code, but no limp mode and no warning light. If that is the case even someone as OCD as I can live with that !!

Installing an extra wire in a roughly 900mm section of Body Loom between ECU and Throttle Pedal is no biggie, and then a later 3 track Pedal can be installed, likely that will only happen if D15KOE eats his Throttle Pedal ;)
The "Dave's Jury" has returned a verdict of suck that and see, only change that if I'm still not happy or the Code does pop up the Check Engine Light ;)

So that is why all this latest work and more expenditure, NNN ECU (£360) and good used 15P Air Filter Box / Sensor plus ECU wiring terminals / seals etc £30.

The NNN ECU should be here later this week, so hopefully the final results can be reported next weekend :)

Here's the update from this w/e, the hard part of adding the extra wire through about 2m of Engine Loom that snakes it's way around the Engines bowels is now completed, and along the way I tidied up a few more little "Mookie bodge" rectifications and also found a misaligned Heater Hose that has chafed on the rear Engine lifting bracket, it's just through the outer rubber, wouldn't have been long before it went pop :eek: I've put a sleeve over it just to run about locally if needs be, and ordered a pair of Heater Hoses which will be here in a few days and get changed as soon as they are. Also these D2's do not have a "Low Coolant" warning light, so I plan to be adding one very soon !! They are one of those Engines that gets naffin HOT before the Gauge says so :(

The new Air Filter Box lid with Sensor and Wiring Plug photo'd on top of the early 10P one still fitted to the D15KOE until the NNN ECU arrives, at which point I can swap them ....



The new length of wire has to go between ECU red Plug and the Airbox Sensor, (plug marked with red tape) ....





So basically I freed up most of the Engine Loom, and started by carefully crimping and soldering the wee ECU Terminal on the end of the length of wire, then remove trunking pieces and un-tape one section of loom at a time installing the wire, re tape, re-instate trunking etc etc until I got to the Airbox Sensor end ....













All back together for the week ....



So all that is left to do is to plug the NNN ECU in and program it to Immo, and a few Version Codings ....



and fit the new Airbox Lid and Sensor ....



And splice in the 4 Pin Plug to replace this 3 Pin one ....



So that's the hardest bit done (y)

Once I am real happy it's all good I will get the Re-Map sorted :D

Oh, btw, that broken Battery Carrier Bolt stub was a bear, I welded a nut on it twice, and got a couple of turns each time before it snapped off, so I resorted to plan B, which was weld a washer on then a bigger nut to the washer, which got the last bit out :D ....





I ran a tap down all the threads copperslipped all threads and used all new bolts and washers so now they will come out again should the need arise !!

Best go do a thankless task next ...................

I've had a Nissan El Grande here for at least 5 months, runs like a bag of proverbial, needs a bunch of MOT works, I had a quick look months ago then put it on the back burner because it's an Import none of my machines will read it, so it's gonna be good old fashioned check this check that and likely some parts darts, although local suppliers can't supply bits for it ....................

But as I'm quiet this week I will give it some time, and if no dice I'll send it back with a small bill, if I fix it I'll do the MOT repairs and then it can go back with a Huuuuuuuuge bill and pay for some more D15KOE Goodies :D :D :D
 
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