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Drive the Deal (UK only) have 4 special offers running on SLC 200 petrols at the moment. The most basic car is cheapest with a £31000 list SLC200 manual coming in at £22000 all the way up to a £36000 SLC200 AMG Sport 9-speed automatic for £26000. Basically that's a 30-35% discount on list and these are factory order cars that have to be delivered before the end of the year.

An SLC43 (boutique range in the UK, so no speculative dealer order cars) is £37500 on the road (£8500/20% off list).

According to my tame lease broker that should mean £600 deposit and 23 payments of £200 incl. VAT on a 3+23 repayment schedule for an SLC200 AMG Sport on 10,000 miles per year and about double that for an SLC43. That seems REALLY cheap to me.
 

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... and what are the discounts for diesel SLC's in the UK? (just curious)
 

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Drive the Deal (UK only) have 4 special offers running on SLC 200 petrols at the moment. The most basic car is cheapest with a £31000 list SLC200 manual coming in at £22000 all the way up to a £36000 SLC200 AMG Sport 9-speed automatic for £26000. Basically that's a 30-35% discount on list and these are factory order cars that have to be delivered before the end of the year.

An SLC43 (boutique range in the UK, so no speculative dealer order cars) is £37500 on the road (£8500/20% off list).

According to my tame lease broker that should mean £600 deposit and 23 payments of £200 incl. VAT on a 3+23 repayment schedule for an SLC200 AMG Sport on 10,000 miles per year and about double that for an SLC43. That seems REALLY cheap to me.
It does sound like a bargain but there may be a bit of a wait , and those prices might only be available to finance and mileage restriction agreements ?
 

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It does sound like a bargain but there may be a bit of a wait , and those prices might only be available to finance and mileage restriction agreements ?
I don't know. There are no restrictions mentioned in the ad and they usually do say if it's limited to taking out finance with Mercedes or whatever. It looks like a straightforward sales proposition. I specifically didn't link to the page because it was really just a heads-up to anyone wanting a new one. If you get a stock car, then it's in stock. Those prices they are quoting are for bog-standard cars, extras are extra.

It's the special offers page https://www.drivethedeal.com/SpecialOffers.aspx
 

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... and what are the discounts for diesel SLC's in the UK? (just curious)
Slightly less, £8000 off a £33000 base model. I suspect with all the business users taking diesels there isn't quite the same push to sell them. Very few business users are permitted petrols and those that are usually choose diesel anyway because of the fuel economy and tax advantages.
 

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... and what are the discounts for diesel SLC's in the UK? (just curious)
4 lines below thread with discounts:
http://www.slkworld.com/slc-general-discussion/366697-discounts-slc-uk.html

It does sound like a bargain but there may be a bit of a wait , and those prices might only be available to finance and mileage restriction agreements ?
If there's finance requirement, you can take finance and pay it off during cool off period of 14 days or later.
 

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I think they are cheap for a reason. And not a very good one at that. Quality.

I have just come back from Germany with an Audi RS3, despite the base that I went to see an A45! Both were 3 and 4 months old, similar mileage, similar spec except the A45 had distronic. There it stopped. Audi felt the part!

My advice: Wait until the new TT RS arrives before launching headlong into the SLC... The Audi 5 cyl engine is blistering. It takes the RS3 to 100kmph quicker than an SLK55 - so I imagine they are going to have to hold the TT back with final drive gearing. Or maybe just let it rip..?!
 

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I think they are cheap for a reason. And not a very good one at that. Quality.

I have just come back from Germany with an Audi RS3, despite the base that I went to see an A45! Both were 3 and 4 months old, similar mileage, similar spec except the A45 had distronic. There it stopped. Audi felt the part!

My advice: Wait until the new TT RS arrives before launching headlong into the SLC... The Audi 5 cyl engine is blistering. It takes the RS3 to 100kmph quicker than an SLK55 - so I imagine they are going to have to hold the TT back with final drive gearing. Or maybe just let it rip..?!
I think you have to compare apples with apples. The TT-RS isn't going to cost £37,000. More like £60,000. The old 340PS Mk II TT-RS was also very quick, so the new one will easily outpace an SLC43, even on the straight.

I think the better car to compare the SLC 43 with is the Audi TT-S.
 

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You are probably right, maybe even more. Our Porsche chap said the other day they are waiting for a price hike from Germany based on 1.15 exchange rate on the wholesale price. And then of course a tariff imposition in a couple of years. Heaven knows what that will be - I guess dependant on the lobby power of the home car industry.
Still, if the A45 is an indication of MB build, then I modify my advice to either start saving a bit more every week or go for a lesser model TT. Mind you, this is not to say that the Audi build may also deteriorate. I have not seen a new TT, but the A3 facelift looks as bomb-proof as ever...
 

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I have to agree on the build quality. My current 'work' car is an A6 allroad and I was getting a GLC 43 but I am now getting another allroad to replace it but repeated test drives in the GLC (where bits actually came off the car) led me to take another allroad instead.

The prices won't shift much. Even after Brexit. They'll just realign the prices (like the US pricing) so they keep the volumes. They need the volumes they get from the UK.
 

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I looked at 1 year old TTS while looking at SLK55. 1 year old was the same price as 2 years old SLK55. I'm sure Audi is great car, I just couldn't live with interior design.

My second car is Audi, quality of interior finish is better than my previous Mercedes, however it's much higher model so I can't compare it directly. I would have to compare it to S-class rather than C-class I had. However paint on Audi is awful (scratches just from looking at it) and without proper detailing looks bad.

Every brand has some good and bad points.

I think there will be more leasing deals to make sure cars are selling. If you look at latest numbers, there was decline in private transactions and increase of fleet ones, it's probably how it's going to continue. More cars will be pushed through leasing just to sell them and fill the market and keep up with stats.
 

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I looked at 1 year old TTS while looking at SLK55. 1 year old was the same price as 2 years old SLK55. I'm sure Audi is great car, I just couldn't live with interior design.

My second car is Audi, quality of interior finish is better than my previous Mercedes, however it's much higher model so I can't compare it directly. I would have to compare it to S-class rather than C-class I had. However paint on Audi is awful (scratches just from looking at it) and without proper detailing looks bad.

Every brand has some good and bad points.

I think there will be more leasing deals to make sure cars are selling. If you look at latest numbers, there was decline in private transactions and increase of fleet ones, it's probably how it's going to continue. More cars will be pushed through leasing just to sell them and fill the market and keep up with stats.
The car trade is just a by product of the financial world these days .
I also looked at a tt rs before ordering a slc , they are very fast but I think they look ugly , coupe and convertable .
 

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My second car is Audi, quality of interior finish is better than my previous Mercedes, however it's much higher model so I can't compare it directly. I would have to compare it to S-class rather than C-class I had. However paint on Audi is awful (scratches just from looking at it)
Audi only have 1 set of components. You effectively get the same parts on an A1 as an A8 W12 LWB. Most of the switchgear on the Mk II R8 is absolutely identical to the Mk III TT, even sharing 8S-prefixed part numbers.

The build quality on the Audi does generally seem better than Mercedes currently. I'm not sure on the paint, as my A6 has done 100,000 miles in 2 years 9 months and the SLKs have not done 20,000 miles in 15 months between them, so that wouldn't be comparing applies with apples. I do know that Mercedes use a ceramic lacquer which is supposedly harder than other paint finishes. The corollary of harder paint is that it chips more easily than softer paint.
 

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I also looked at a tt rs before ordering a slc , they are very fast but I think they look ugly , coupe and convertable .
Ultimately if everyone liked the same things it would be a very boring world. The Mk III TT RS isn't out until Octover or November in the UK (you can get on a list to order one) and it's going to be a proper supercar slayer when it does arrive.

That said, many, many people don't like the way the RS drives because it is so utterly sanitized - the quattro system makes deploying 420PS much easier than the SLK 55 ever did and the video-game-like driving leaves an lawful of of people cold.

I'm starting (definitely not completely comfortable) to get used to the little jinks from the back end of the SLK when you put your foot down out of bends and roundabouts in particular. A TT RS will never do that. It will just cut power, straighten itself up and rocket off in the direction the steering is pointing.

I can't see how Mercedes won't be forced into releasing a remapped SLC 43S or the TT RS will just make it look very slow in comparison reviews. Based on the times for the last TT RS I would expect the new RS to be 20-30 seconds faster round the Nuerburgring than the SLC 43 just because it can deploy all its power all the time.

None of this has altered my view that the SLC 43 at current discounts is an absolute bargain and it's what I would lease if I was in the market for something right now
 

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Audi only have 1 set of components. You effectively get the same parts on an A1 as an A8 W12 LWB. Most of the switchgear on the Mk II R8 is absolutely identical to the Mk III TT, even sharing 8S-prefixed part numbers.
It's quite possible, I didn't drive any other Audi long enough to comment on it. Higher models have more leather and Alcantara, so there's not a lot of plastic visible.
 

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Ultimately if everyone liked the same things it would be a very boring world. The Mk III TT RS isn't out until Octover or November in the UK (you can get on a list to order one) and it's going to be a proper supercar slayer when it does arrive.

That said, many, many people don't like the way the RS drives because it is so utterly sanitized - the quattro system makes deploying 420PS much easier than the SLK 55 ever did and the video-game-like driving leaves an lawful of of people cold.

I'm starting (definitely not completely comfortable) to get used to the little jinks from the back end of the SLK when you put your foot down out of bends and roundabouts in particular. A TT RS will never do that. It will just cut power, straighten itself up and rocket off in the direction the steering is pointing.

I can't see how Mercedes won't be forced into releasing a remapped SLC 43S or the TT RS will just make it look very slow in comparison reviews. Based on the times for the last TT RS I would expect the new RS to be 20-30 seconds faster round the Nuerburgring than the SLC 43 just because it can deploy all its power all the time.

None of this has altered my view that the SLC 43 at current discounts is an absolute bargain and it's what I would lease if I was in the market for something right now
I read somewhere the price was gonna be late 50s by the time a few extras are added to a Ttrs , slc 43 is an absolute bargain by comparison , and more fun around the Nurburgring , I used to own a very fast s4 twin turbo on coilovers , Porsche brakes and the like , it was very quick on a lap of the ring but ultimately I had more fun in my old 230 with the upgrades I carried out .
You'll soon get comfortable with the back end stepping out , it just takes a little practice to balance the throttle against the slip , first thing I checked when specifying my slc 43 was the lsd , I used to race on oval tracks in my youth and the first job to do was weld the diff solid with a plate dropped into the gears . Sideways is the new forward ! Although not very good for making progress
 

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Maybe (some)people are missing the point

yes the TTRS may be 20 seconds quicker round the ring.......... but that is making the assumption that people buy a car purely on speed/tracktime.

I'm on the forum as my Mrs has just bought a 2015 SLK350........... for 25k

for 25k she could have bought something quicker - probably a year or two older - but nonetheless quicker! i pointed out a 2012 M3 to her( i have an M3)

But she bought the SLK - because it floated HER boat.......... and that L's & G's is the top n bottom of it :wink:
 
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