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Article's rough Italian translation:

Waiting for 2020 the baby Mercedes sports. Designed together with AMG it should replace the Mercedes SLC and drive under the AMG-GT. Powers up to over 400 hp.

The first rumors are circulating about a new baby sport that will replace the Mercedes SLC. This is a new model designed together by Mercedes and AMG, the sports division of the German company. The car will be a sporty baby capable of rivaling the likes of BMW Z4, Porsche 718 (Cayman and Boxster), Audi TT, Alpine A110, Toyota Supra and the same category. So a length in the order of 410-420 cm.

The new Mercedes sports car will be a dry two-seater with a central engine and should arrive at the beginning of 2020. The car will be positioned below the Mercedes AMG-GT both in size and power. Not only coupè, the new Mercedes baby sports will also be proposed in the open version with a roof presumably made of canvas. Really reduced mass that should settle on 1200-1300 kg thanks to the use of innovative materials and a decisive use of carbon fiber.

From the point of view of the engines the 2.0 liter could be used, which in the coming months will be fitted to the Mercedes A-Class 35 and 45 AMG. The less powerful version should have about 320 hp, while the top of the range at least 420 hp. It is not excluded that an attack version with power in the order of 250 hp also arrives, perhaps with an engine that is always turbocharged, but with a lower cubic capacity.

On the new engines could also debut the 48V micro hybrid system capable of providing a handful of extra horses and reduce fuel consumption and emissions. In the future on the new Mercedes sports car could also get the most extreme version of about 450-500 hp. From the design point of view, the car could be inspired by the Mercedes AMG Project One hypercar. The name of this car is not yet known, but it is unlikely to be called SLC. We also exclude that there is a diesel version of the new Mercedes sports baby. More likely, however, the arrival of the all-electric battery variant with autonomy in the order of 350-400 km.
 

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As has been said before, likely to be a fixed roof coupe or a fabric roof convertible, like the Boxster & Cayman options.
No retractable metal or glass roof- too heavy and expensive...

Buy your SLC before production stops!

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If they ever put a v6 in it, or figure out how to make a 4 cylinder sound like anything but a vacuum cleaner, I might be on board for the coupe version in 10 years give or take. They can keep that soft top nonsense.
 

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If they ever put a v6 in it, or figure out how to make a 4 cylinder sound like anything but a vacuum cleaner, I might be on board for the coupe version in 10 years give or take. They can keep that soft top nonsense.
In ten years time anything could happen engine wise id imagine most be hybrid or full on electric or a little 1.4 cc engine with the boost of electrics thrown in .
Its changing times especially over uk land and europe usa maybe a diff market .
V 12 gone , V8 gone V6 next ......
 

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Yeah I hear ya. More's the pity. And those electric batteries arent exactly environmentally friendly but no one wants to discuss that. The future for enthusiasts is bleak.
 

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Yeah I hear ya. More's the pity. And those electric batteries arent exactly environmentally friendly but no one wants to discuss that. The future for enthusiasts is bleak.
It seems everything we use is bad diesel fumes bad polluting
Petrol not as bad ?
Batteries well we have been producing throw away batteries for many years now id rather drive past children at a school with an electric car than a diesel car .

Its changing times ahead for the motor industry as they adapt and by the looks of things go hybrid for the future while battery tech goes on improving .
Looks like the classic car , collecting , tuning market and ........will be coming to an end ?

But one thing for sure is the big “ V “ Engine is getting smaller .
 

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Sure the electric cars wont spit out immediate pollution, but long term there is very little planning for wtf to do with those batteries at the end of their life cycle. We will have hundreds of millions of battery banks from these cars with no feasible means to recycle or dispose of them. Not as bad as nuclear waste material, but orders of magnitude larger in masse. Get ready for some eco disasters if we dont figure out what to do with them.
 

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So as the end of 2018 races towards us, the R172 is now close to 8 years old. A predicted 2020 date for its softtop replacement is the gossip.

That means serious design decisions were made a couple of years ago, and running prototypes would now exist.
These maybe “mules”, R172s with R173 engines and running gear, maybe suspension systems. But R173 preproduction cars can’t be far away.

Historically M-B seems to only provide details and maybe disguised photos about six months prior to the on-sale date, am I right?

But we should expect some jouno’s spy photos in 2019.

Might there be an optional removable hardtop a least?
 

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As has been said before, likely to be a fixed roof coupe or a fabric roof convertible, like the Boxster & Cayman options.
No retractable metal or glass roof- too heavy and expensive...

Buy your SLC before production stops!
Totally agree, a Rag Top two seater roadster wouldn't work for Me.... :frown:

As for ordering Your SLC, better think about it sooner rather than later if You want a Factory order (Rather than one that has sat in a compound for 9 months...) MB in the UK will not give notice that the SLC production is coming to an end & options may start to come "unavailable" as it they did on the out going "A Class"...
 

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Sure the electric cars wont spit out immediate pollution, but long term there is very little planning for wtf to do with those batteries at the end of their life cycle. We will have hundreds of millions of battery banks from these cars with no feasible means to recycle or dispose of them. Not as bad as nuclear waste material, but orders of magnitude larger in masse. Get ready for some eco disasters if we dont figure out what to do with them.
the batteries that power electric cars (and hybrids, for that matter) can be recycled. For decades, the few electric vehicles that were on the road were powered by lead-acid batteries. The latest models, with their lighter weight and longer range, use lithium-ion batteries, just like laptops and cell phones. In either case, the batteries that power electric cars can be recycled.

When the battery packs in a lithium-ion-powered vehicle are deemed too worn out for driving, they still have up to 80 percent of their charge left. So before they ever get to a recycling center, these batteries are used to prop up the grid, especially alongside energy sources that may not be quite as steady, like wind or solar power. The batteries can store power to help the flow of electricity stay on an even keel rather than ebb and flow with the weather.

Since lithium-ion battery-powered cars are just now coming to the mass market, the recycling centers that can reclaim their components are still in their infancy, too. Toxco, a big lead-acid battery recycler, is set to open the first lithium-ion battery recycling plant in the U.S. Companies like Tesla Motors, which has had lithium-powered electric sports cars on the road for a couple of years now, already sends its spent batteries to Toxco's current facilities for recycling.

When lithium-ion batteries reach a recycling plant, there are two ways to pulverize them. If they are completely without a charge, they're simply shredded so that the metal components, like copper and steel, can be easily sorted out. If the batteries could still possibly have a charge, though, they're frozen in liquid nitrogen and smashed to frozen bits (cool!). The liquid nitrogen is so cold, the batteries can't react, so the smashing is safe. And probably fun. Then the metals are separated out for reuse.
 

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Rag tops seems to be the way forward for environmental reasons to reduce the weight. Few manufacturers produce metal folding roofs now. The BMW 4 series metal folding roof convertible is 245Kg heavier than the coupe and half a second slower. I still prefer metal over fabric though. I had a new VW Eos 10 years ago which had a brilliant folding metal roof with a built in sunroof which could open and tilt and had a sliding sun blind, amazing. Sadly it was ditched by VW after a few years for being a bit leaky and squeaky! regular application of gummi pflege sorted that out though!
 

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I love the theory pushed by the powers that be, electric is green/greener.

The battery components have an impact on the environment.
Electric is dependent on how it is produced. Even windfarms have a footprint.

And now EU hybrids will likely be taxed for having too small a battery.

What is a central engine?
I thought that sounded mid engine, but can't see MB going that way.
 

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Rag tops seems to be the way forward for environmental reasons to reduce the weight. Few manufacturers produce metal folding roofs now. The BMW 4 series metal folding roof convertible is 245Kg heavier than the coupe and half a second slower. I still prefer metal over fabric though. I had a new VW Eos 10 years ago which had a brilliant folding metal roof with a built in sunroof which could open and tilt and had a sliding sun blind, amazing. Sadly it was ditched by VW after a few years for being a bit leaky and squeaky! regular application of gummi pflege sorted that out though!
Interesting BMW weight comparison.

One comparison I found was Crossfire V6 convertible compared to SLK320. The SLK was only about 10kg heavier from the numbers I could find.
Same chassis, same powertrain and interior, similar equipment.

Another is Chrysler Sebring convertible, fabric softtop and folding metal roof both listed at 1865kg kerb weight on Carsales.com! Not many cars have been sold with that choice of roof systems.
 

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So as the end of 2018 races towards us, the R172 is now close to 8 years old. A predicted 2020 date for its softtop replacement is the gossip.

That means serious design decisions were made a couple of years ago, and running prototypes would now exist.
These maybe “mules”, R172s with R173 engines and running gear, maybe suspension systems. But R173 preproduction cars can’t be far away.

Historically M-B seems to only provide details and maybe disguised photos about six months prior to the on-sale date, am I right?

But we should expect some jouno’s spy photos in 2019.

Might there be an optional removable hardtop a least?
Can I quote myself?
Anyway.

News/Gossip from Autocar tells that the new SL / AMG GT MSA modular shared architecture, shared platform now Excludes a new SLC.
Maybe this is the end. The decisions will have been made well back , it’s just now that it leaks out.


https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/mercedes-benz-plots-new-driver-focused-sl-2020

To quote Autocar, “Early plans to base a successor to today’s smaller SLC off the same underpinnings have been abandoned following a recent decision not to replace the junior Mercedes roadster due to dwindling sales.“


M-B are doing very well getting lots of new young customers buying GLCs and A45s, or A20s even, and the age demographic of SLC has got too old and too scarce.

Or should the SLC replacement be go back to R170 size and be 100% Electric with lots of range, like the proposed Tesla Roadster. Would that appeal to young technology early adopters.?
 

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We'll not see the likes of the SLK?SLC again.
Neutered homogenised battery driven bleak blandness lies ahead which means whilst I have my health my SLK is a keeper with perhaps a used SLC later. Then it will be wheelchair time.
Momentarily I thought I might have to suffer being a BMW driver ( nothing to be proud of here in the UK ) when the new Z4 was threatened. Then saw the pictures & thankfully it's a horrible clunky thing.
 

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Sure the electric cars wont spit out immediate pollution, but long term there is very little planning for wtf to do with those batteries at the end of their life cycle. We will have hundreds of millions of battery banks from these cars with no feasible means to recycle or dispose of them. Not as bad as nuclear waste material, but orders of magnitude larger in masse. Get ready for some eco disasters if we dont figure out what to do with them.
Lets not overlook how bad it is to mine the materials for those batteries. Or the diesel burned in ships to transport those materials... Electric cars are for people who want to feel good about what they are doing in their tiny little bubble.
 
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