Thanks Jeff, interesting thing, 528 says Comand DVD Plus (without Navigation) and I see no other mention of Nav in the data sheet, but it has Nav. Used it on the test drive. It's a nice vehicle, low miles for the year, I'm going to buy it and try it instead of spending 425 per month on a lease that the car goes 10 miles (or less) each way. Thought I'd give this a try. I'm getting it about $2000 under book and all the major servicing was just done a couple of thousand miles ago. It's kind of an experiment, I haven't had a work car that was used since the early 80's in Spain. That V8 is quiet and smooth, the car is almost clean enough to put on a showroom floor. I wanted an AMG, but the C55 I couldn't come to terms with, with the dealer. The other one got sold before the owner could get back with me. That's a bit of a disappointment, but that was just a luxury sort of anyway. This white E500 will look nice beside the white Dawg! Thanks again!