Mercedes SLK World banner

1 - 20 of 34 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
227 Posts
Discussion Starter #1 (Edited)
Tried a car wax that dries to a haze only to find my reward to be hundreds of white filled scratch lines on a black car, ugh!

While I realize the cure is a sand and paint, that's in the future. Did clay bar the car, paint is about as good as it's going to get. The car still looks pretty good when wet. Have been using Armor All Wax Wipes, that's more like a grease you can write your name in that lasts a couple of days. One wipe is supposed to do the whole car, takes me three just to do a little SLK.

I've tried the combined wash and wax, several brands Turtle, Meguires, Rain-X, dries to nothing apparently there when done.

What I need to know is the best goes on clear and lasts wax. Something better then the old Simoniz as this is Florida and it gets really hot for a wax based on wax. Would help if it also cleaned up rub marks and such a little, but not necessary as the wet look seems to hide those marks left from beer cans, etc. All advice appreciated. Thanks
 

·
Administrator - Founding Member
Joined
·
92,745 Posts
I have a black car

you should be using Turtle Wax Black spray wax

It sprays black!







see all my albums for pretty black car pics!
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
220 Posts
My advise is much cheaper than a respray, and will have your car looking showroom new in about 5 steps. Purchase the following:
A quality random orbital polisher. I have the Meguires paint correction kit. It comes with 2 microfiber pads, one for paint correction, (cutting pad) one for wax(Finishing pad). It also comes with a bottle of compound and a bottle of wax. Also purchase
A few foam pads for the polisher. I use the red and grey pads. You will also need a glaze or finishing polish. Many to choose from. I use Meguires glaze and the yellow finishing wax. All in about $300, but well worth it.
1. Complete wash and dry with good quality car wash and a few good microfiber towels.
2. Clay bar. I use a Nanoskin pad on the polisher instead of clay. Much quicker, and the pad is reusable with a quick rinse of water.
3. Paint correction with the cutting pad and compound in the Meguires kit.
4. Meguires showroom glaze with the grey foam pad
5. Meguires yellow wax with the red from pad.

With an initial spend of about $400, you will have all you need to get your car perfect, and you will get many uses out of that kit. I do the above steps on my car every spring. Total time is about 4-5 hours, but you can spread it out over 2 days. Do not be intimidated, it is very easy to use the Meguires kit. Try it out, I bet you will be amazed! Good luck, here is a picture of my 11 year old, 80k miles car.

http://www.slkworld.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=415522&stc=1&d=1498166697
 

Attachments

·
Registered
Joined
·
227 Posts
Discussion Starter #4
My advise is much cheaper than a respray, and will have your car looking showroom new in about 5 steps. Purchase the following:
A quality random orbital polisher. I have the Meguires paint correction kit. It comes with 2 microfiber pads, one for paint correction, (cutting pad) one for wax(Finishing pad). It also comes with a bottle of compound and a bottle of wax. Also purchase
A few foam pads for the polisher. I use the red and grey pads. You will also need a glaze or finishing polish. Many to choose from. I use Meguires glaze and the yellow finishing wax. All in about $300, but well worth it.
1. Complete wash and dry with good quality car wash and a few good microfiber towels.
2. Clay bar. I use a Nanoskin pad on the polisher instead of clay. Much quicker, and the pad is reusable with a quick rinse of water.
3. Paint correction with the cutting pad and compound in the Meguires kit.
4. Meguires showroom glaze with the grey foam pad
5. Meguires yellow wax with the red from pad.

With an initial spend of about $400, you will have all you need to get your car perfect, and you will get many uses out of that kit. I do the above steps on my car every spring. Total time is about 4-5 hours, but you can spread it out over 2 days. Do not be intimidated, it is very easy to use the Meguires kit. Try it out, I bet you will be amazed! Good luck, here is a picture of my 11 year old, 80k miles car.

http://www.slkworld.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=415522&stc=1&d=1498166697
I appreciate the suggestion and have no doubt the car would look better. Local body shop advertises a sand and paint for $429.95 2 component urethane hardener, power sand 3 year warranty. Of course there will be tax and extras. Main reason for the sand and paint is this car is covered with surface rust dots I've dropped a drop of touch-up paint on, some as large as half an inch across. They really need to be sanded away I also have a half repainted passenger door and mirrors with paint fish-eye puckering.
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
4,907 Posts
If you want to do a proper repaint, ask @9021Jae where he got his car done (in FL before he moved to CA). His SLK32 went from silver to yellow and it looks simply superb. He ended up paying a bit more than 6 grand for this work, but since it was a color change it included taking most of the body apart and putting it back together. I'd imagine a repaint in the same color would be cheaper at this body shop.
 

·
Super Moderator
Joined
·
10,935 Posts
It's not possible to do a even remotely quality paint job on a car for $450. The only thing you will succeed in doing is killing the value of your car.
:tu:

Even maaco charges more than that me thinks. And I wouldn't use maaco on my worst enemy's car (or maybe I would >:D )
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
866 Posts
My advise is much cheaper than a respray, and will have your car looking showroom new in about 5 steps. Purchase the following:
A quality random orbital polisher. I have the Meguires paint correction kit. It comes with 2 microfiber pads, one for paint correction, (cutting pad) one for wax(Finishing pad). It also comes with a bottle of compound and a bottle of wax. Also purchase
A few foam pads for the polisher. I use the red and grey pads. You will also need a glaze or finishing polish. Many to choose from. I use Meguires glaze and the yellow finishing wax. All in about $300, but well worth it.
1. Complete wash and dry with good quality car wash and a few good microfiber towels.
2. Clay bar. I use a Nanoskin pad on the polisher instead of clay. Much quicker, and the pad is reusable with a quick rinse of water.
3. Paint correction with the cutting pad and compound in the Meguires kit.
4. Meguires showroom glaze with the grey foam pad
5. Meguires yellow wax with the red from pad.

With an initial spend of about $400, you will have all you need to get your car perfect, and you will get many uses out of that kit. I do the above steps on my car every spring. Total time is about 4-5 hours, but you can spread it out over 2 days. Do not be intimidated, it is very easy to use the Meguires kit. Try it out, I bet you will be amazed! Good luck, here is a picture of my 11 year old, 80k miles car.

http://www.slkworld.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=415522&stc=1&d=1498166697
Looks good! I read reviews that the nano pads don't work as good as a high quality clay bar as far as removing contaminants, would you detest that? Also what Meguiars kit are you referring to (would like to have a looksy), what was the cut of the polish (light or heavy) and did it remove all the hard water spots, and for $400 did it come with orbital polisher?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
227 Posts
Discussion Starter #11
It's not possible to do a even remotely quality paint job on a car for $450. The only thing you will succeed in doing is killing the value of your car.
Define value. I paid $2500 for the car, won it on ebay, can spend six grand on paint and will still be worth $2500. I see them selling from $2000 to $10,000 I should have paid $5000 for one with everything working in better condition. It's a fun little car not for show, just want it to look presentable.

Macco used to charge $29.95 If I walk in on the $429.95 price I expect it to cost $600+ by the time they get done drawing circles around the extra work, but at least there is no rust through or dents. We're talking gloss black, not obsidian.

Anyway, auto store only had Turtle Jet Black Detailing Spray, not the spray wax, will try Walmart next.
 

·
Administrator - Founding Member
Joined
·
92,745 Posts
You will have to look for the Turtle Wax black spray wax
walmart does not sell it anymore
I think i got it online

oh wait...i remember

pep boys had it
cost more there but worth it
 

·
Administrator - Founding Member
Joined
·
92,745 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
196 Posts
Define value. I paid $2500 for the car, won it on ebay, can spend six grand on paint and will still be worth $2500. I see them selling from $2000 to $10,000 I should have paid $5000 for one with everything working in better condition. It's a fun little car not for show, just want it to look presentable.

Macco used to charge $29.95 If I walk in on the $429.95 price I expect it to cost $600+ by the time they get done drawing circles around the extra work, but at least there is no rust through or dents. We're talking gloss black, not obsidian.

Anyway, auto store only had Turtle Jet Black Detailing Spray, not the spray wax, will try Walmart next.
Those one stage, sub $500 paint job places are notorious for doing a horrendously poor prep job and overspraying on everything. The whole problem is they don't look presentable when they're done.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
227 Posts
Discussion Starter #15
Those one stage, sub $500 paint job places are notorious for doing a horrendously poor prep job and overspraying on everything. The whole problem is they don't look presentable when they're done.
I'm sure it will help to wet sand the car before bringing it in . . . this is a local shop not a national chain, they have a website if you want to take a look-see. https://www.affordable-bodyshop.com

Just for fun check out the incredible edible car site.

Incredible Edible Car
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
220 Posts
Looks good! I read reviews that the nano pads don't work as good as a high quality clay bar as far as removing contaminants, would you detest that? Also what Meguiars kit are you referring to (would like to have a looksy), what was the cut of the polish (light or heavy) and did it remove all the hard water spots, and for $400 did it come with orbital polisher?
Rob, the kit I have is Meguires DA microfiber paint correction system. It comes with the DA machine, a bottle of fairly heavy compound to be used with the microfiber cutting pad, finishing wax and a microfiber finishing pad. When I bought my 1st SLK, a 1998 230, the white paint looked pretty good, but the car was filled with micro scratches. This setup was so easy to use, and did such a great job, that I swear by it.
On my current 2006 350, I do the process described in my earlier post, but I use red and grey foam pads for the glaze and wax. The foam pads are less aggressive. As for the Nanoskin, does the job for me, is really easy to use, and if you drop the pad, just rinse with water and it's clean! Can't do that with clay.
PS Autogeek has the entire setup on sale for $349 and I think a 20% off promo. Check them out. They have LOTS of detailing stuff, and great videos on how-to-do.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
866 Posts
Rob, the kit I have is Meguires DA microfiber paint correction system. It comes with the DA machine, a bottle of fairly heavy compound to be used with the microfiber cutting pad, finishing wax and a microfiber finishing pad. When I bought my 1st SLK, a 1998 230, the white paint looked pretty good, but the car was filled with micro scratches. This setup was so easy to use, and did such a great job, that I swear by it.
On my current 2006 350, I do the process described in my earlier post, but I use red and grey foam pads for the glaze and wax. The foam pads are less aggressive. As for the Nanoskin, does the job for me, is really easy to use, and if you drop the pad, just rinse with water and it's clean! Can't do that with clay.
PS Autogeek has the entire setup on sale for $349 and I think a 20% off promo. Check them out. They have LOTS of detailing stuff, and great videos on how-to-do.
Any thing like this? https://www.amazon.com/Meguiars-G55107-Power-System-Kit/dp/B00A4ABF8W/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1498251753&sr=8-15&keywords=B0009IQX0E|B0002NYE5M|B00P9OF00C|B0009IQX6I|B002J7RDZM|B0006SH4NC|B005JPJMI2|B0006SH4NW|B0006SH4PA|B0055PD3G8|B0051PKGU8|B004QJH9M8|B005JPJNKY|B004R660NY|B004QJMG8A|B00H5DOIC6|B005I5TW2E|B00PYCXGSW|B00PYBHONG|B00PYCXGQE|B00PYCXH7C|B00PYCXGQY|B00PYCXGSM|B00PYCXMYA|B00PYCXMYK|B00PYCXMUE|B005JPJNMW|B004VG0N38|B00CJ694I2|B005JPJNO0|B00CJ69BXA|B00CJ69F2W|B00CJ69F2W|B004VFWUXK|B004VFWUXK|B005JPJNPY|B004QJMG80|B00CJ69R02|B005JPJNVI|B00CJ69YNC|B00H5DOIZS|B00H5DOJIO|B0002UNON8|B0002UQAN4|B0009U65GY|B0002UQATS|B000RXNLK6|B004HCS4P0|B009OBW5O0|B009OBW5RW|B004HCQ4RK|B009OBW5S6|B00G49DURG|B0055PD1H4|B00P9OEZS0|B006FUT15Y|B001O7PNNM|B001O7PNS2|B001O7I7H6|B00353PWAW|B006FUT13G|B006FUT154|B004HCS4PK|B004HCM9H4|B001O7I7FS|B004HCOE8Q|B00P9OF04I|B004HCOE72|B004HCU77I|B004EB12FS|B006FUT0CS|B00P9OEZR6|B009OBW28E|B0012ZEZ8A|B0012ZITJQ|B005A2R628|B00A4ABF8W|B009OBW23O|B009OBW29S|B0009IQXCM|B0002UNOYM|B006FUT0AK|B006FUT05U|B0009IQYXK|B0009IQYYE|B0009IQYZ8|B000EY5OSK|B0002SQVDK|B000VXO2L4|B000FKPOB0|B0002SQVF8|B0002SQZQS|B000XSGJXG|B0002UQAM0|B0002SQVX0|B00AIYDP2S|B00AIYU148|B0000AXMD2|B003LMGDHI|B001O7PNW8|B00ISKSOB6|B0000AXMD6|B0000BX6Q7|B0002SQZRM|B003LMJP4Q|B001O7PNXC|B0009IQYLM|B002J854UC|B000924QO0|B0002SQZRC|B0002SQZR2|B00R7PITZ4|B00R7PIU58|B00R7PITZY|B00R7PIUAI|B0002SQW34|B0002SQVNA|B0002SQZS6|B0002SQYG4|B0002SQYSC|B0002SQYRI|B000KK12TI|B0002SQVL2|B0002SQVGC|B000M9NEIY|B0014DDGMG|B0030BZVU0|B001MQ02TA|B001G9O528|B002J8379C|B002J823X8|B00PYCXN62|B00PYCXMX6|B00PYCXS44|B00PYBHOI6|B00PYCXS2G|B00O5NWYRK|B00O5NX0J6|B0009IQZFM|B0009IQZH0|B000RXKR6M|B0009IQZPW|B0009IQZQG
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
220 Posts
Any thing like this? https://www.amazon.com/Meguiars-G55107-Power-System-Kit/dp/B00A4ABF8W/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1498251753&sr=8-15&keywords=B0009IQX0E|B0002NYE5M|B00P9OF00C|B0009IQX6I|B002J7RDZM|B0006SH4NC|B005JPJMI2|B0006SH4NW|B0006SH4PA|B0055PD3G8|B0051PKGU8|B004QJH9M8|B005JPJNKY|B004R660NY|B004QJMG8A|B00H5DOIC6|B005I5TW2E|B00PYCXGSW|B00PYBHONG|B00PYCXGQE|B00PYCXH7C|B00PYCXGQY|B00PYCXGSM|B00PYCXMYA|B00PYCXMYK|B00PYCXMUE|B005JPJNMW|B004VG0N38|B00CJ694I2|B005JPJNO0|B00CJ69BXA|B00CJ69F2W|B00CJ69F2W|B004VFWUXK|B004VFWUXK|B005JPJNPY|B004QJMG80|B00CJ69R02|B005JPJNVI|B00CJ69YNC|B00H5DOIZS|B00H5DOJIO|B0002UNON8|B0002UQAN4|B0009U65GY|B0002UQATS|B000RXNLK6|B004HCS4P0|B009OBW5O0|B009OBW5RW|B004HCQ4RK|B009OBW5S6|B00G49DURG|B0055PD1H4|B00P9OEZS0|B006FUT15Y|B001O7PNNM|B001O7PNS2|B001O7I7H6|B00353PWAW|B006FUT13G|B006FUT154|B004HCS4PK|B004HCM9H4|B001O7I7FS|B004HCOE8Q|B00P9OF04I|B004HCOE72|B004HCU77I|B004EB12FS|B006FUT0CS|B00P9OEZR6|B009OBW28E|B0012ZEZ8A|B0012ZITJQ|B005A2R628|B00A4ABF8W|B009OBW23O|B009OBW29S|B0009IQXCM|B0002UNOYM|B006FUT0AK|B006FUT05U|B0009IQYXK|B0009IQYYE|B0009IQYZ8|B000EY5OSK|B0002SQVDK|B000VXO2L4|B000FKPOB0|B0002SQVF8|B0002SQZQS|B000XSGJXG|B0002UQAM0|B0002SQVX0|B00AIYDP2S|B00AIYU148|B0000AXMD2|B003LMGDHI|B001O7PNW8|B00ISKSOB6|B0000AXMD6|B0000BX6Q7|B0002SQZRM|B003LMJP4Q|B001O7PNXC|B0009IQYLM|B002J854UC|B000924QO0|B0002SQZRC|B0002SQZR2|B00R7PITZ4|B00R7PIU58|B00R7PITZY|B00R7PIUAI|B0002SQW34|B0002SQVNA|B0002SQZS6|B0002SQYG4|B0002SQYSC|B0002SQYRI|B000KK12TI|B0002SQVL2|B0002SQVGC|B000M9NEIY|B0014DDGMG|B0030BZVU0|B001MQ02TA|B001G9O528|B002J8379C|B002J823X8|B00PYCXN62|B00PYCXMX6|B00PYCXS44|B00PYBHOI6|B00PYCXS2G|B00O5NWYRK|B00O5NX0J6|B0009IQZFM|B0009IQZH0|B000RXKR6M|B0009IQZPW|B0009IQZQG
Yes, that's what I use. I bought the kit with the DA machine, but if you already have a DA polisher, that kit will work well.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
196 Posts
I'm sure it will help to wet sand the car before bringing it in . . . this is a local shop not a national chain, they have a website if you want to take a look-see. https://www.affordable-bodyshop.com

Just for fun check out the incredible edible car site.

Incredible Edible Car
It's just a matter of what they possibly can do for that much money. Figure $200 in materials (at least) leaves $300 in labor dollars. At most shop rates, that will get you maybe 4 hours for labor. Let's shoot the moon and call it 8 hours of labor. It just takes more time than that to clean, prep, mask, paint, unmask, wetsand, and polish so they're either skipping steps and/or doing a really half assed job.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,208 Posts
I recommend using an aftermarket clear coat on your car. We have Ceramic Pro (higher end than C-Quartz and other coatings) on both our cars. Our detailers in AZ are Detail Boss. They said they've tried all types of aftermarket clear coats and they stated Ceramic Pro was the best on the market. These clear coats are far superior to the OEM clear coat. One coat of Ceramic Pro 9H product is 9x the hardness of an OEM clear coat. Adding 2 layers of 9H makes it 18x the hardness of the OEM clear coat. You do not need to wax the car after applying Ceramic Pro. Having wax on your car especially in the AZ summer heat means that it will soften and given the breeze with the dust and sand flying around here in the desert, will adhere to the wax so when you wash the car with any hand pressure when it's dirty, you will get fine micro abrasions in the OEM clear coat as the dust and sand is now embedded in the soft wax. Polishes will just temporarily fill in the fine scratches. Only paint correction will remove the surface scratches. Our detailers paint correct everything prior to adding Ceramic Pro. It's also resistant to bug and bird crap, which makes it easy to remove if you drive at night and or a bird doo-doos on it. We have Detail Boss detail our cars so we never let anyone else wash our cars. They get done on a weekly basis, as mine sits on the driveway all the time. I highly recommend getting an aftermarket clear coat versus waxing your car. It's worth the time and money (makes washing much quicker and looks better as well). You can find photos and videos of Detail Boss's work using Ceramic Pro on their YouTube channel. I don't have my SLK250 anymore as it was totaled in a car accident but my 2016 daily driver has 40,000 miles on it. It was purchased new November 2015 and has always been parked outside and never garaged. I've included photos of what it looks like after it gets detailed. There is no wax or polish on the car. They use water, soap and compressed air to clean the car.
 

Attachments

1 - 20 of 34 Posts
Top