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Today a porsche cayenne got smoked by my 170 200K on the highway. Even up and down hill it couldnt espace. I dont know the specs (probably entry level) but it didnt know they were so slow. It was fun R)
 

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I was looking at the Cayenne when I was shopping for a car, and I was very disappointed at their specs. I'm surprised they put a Porsche badge on those. The Cayenne S is much better.
 

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I would say the Cayanne was selling out, but I do know that the first Porsche was a 4x4 jeep like truck--Custom made for the Nazi SS. That's why Porsche will never advertise it.

Porsche is no longer an exotic sports car manufacturer like Ferrari. They are now a full line company, like Benz. Therefor, that $20,000 Porsche Premium needs to be wipped out, as you no longer join an exclusive sports car club buying a Porsche. (Any Boxster S configured same as SLK will be at least $20,000 more.)

You can buy a Cayanne new for less then a well equipped SLK.

They did have one thing that you did not; that feeling of being a baby in a high chair.
 

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I would say the Cayanne was selling out, but I do know that the first Porsche was a 4x4 jeep like truck--Custom made for the Nazi SS. That's why Porsche will never advertise it.

Porsche is no longer an exotic sports car manufacturer like Ferrari. They are now a full line company, like Benz. Therefor, that $20,000 Porsche Premium needs to be wipped out, as you no longer join an exclusive sports car club buying a Porsche. (Any Boxster S configured same as SLK will be at least $20,000 more.)

You can buy a Cayanne new for less then a well equipped SLK.

They did have one thing that you did not; that feeling of being a baby in a high chair.
Its a great suv, I drive it every single day for 4 years now. I must agree with you on the options, the base price on a porsche is appealing when it comes to options things can get crazy, its totally normal that you see + 30,000 worth of options if you love leather, carbon etc.
 

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What does it do for you? Do you haul stuff? Do you pull trailers? Do you off road? Do you need the ride height for floods? What is the attraction?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not downing you for owning an SUV, I just do not understand the reasons, and am ready to be educated.

They just have so many negatives compared to a sedan:

They have less traction and less control at high speeds due to their ride height allowing air underneath to cause lift, and their high center of gravity. They also brake less effectively.

Moving a big brick through the air requires a lot more gas and the weight causes slower performance per gallon.

You risk clobbering some little kid's head with your bumper because you have unnecessary ride height that will not meet up with his door support, should another car blow a light, or you do.

My favorite: A woman on a cell phone drags another woman down the road because she didn't see the fact she hit her, or can't tell the woman is pinned underneath. And what is the little red SLK behind me flashing the lights, honking the horn and screaming for? Now I have to live with another stop sign on my road because of that.

I guess my problem is with them being mainstream. I can see their use for certain situations, but as a commuter they are overkill and relatively unsafe. Even worse, what happens when these things get old, out of repair, and sold cheaply to kids who feel invincable already?

I guess SUV's would not be as much a bother to me if they were made safer for everyone else:

1. They had headlights and bumpers at sedan height. Electrically raised for off road use.
2. They had TV's on the back showing what is in front of them, like the view over or through a sedan's windows.
3. They were electronically limited to 60 MPH in a straight line, and 35 MPH in a corner, with automatic braking systems.
4. They were sold in few enough numbers as to be sold to the people that will use their benefits, and they would not be so prevalent on the road, thereby limiting the possible dangers.

To me, it seems all the empty SUV's troddling down the flat roads have become a sign of "I'm richer and my safety is more important than yours."
 

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it got smoked cuz it was probably just a cayenne and not a turbo.
If you faced off with a turbo S, you would have been left there hahaha
but then again, if they cayenne was a turbo s, we need a slk amg haha
 

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I like Porsche's cars. Whenever I sit in one, the quality seems very high.

However, the problem, as said above, they want so much money for them and don't have good financing options.
 

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I am just alien about why people like them. They scare me being outside or inside them. Bill's was very nice (the orignal owner of the forum) and he has the X51, but watching his video taking a curve at speed, it's like the Ark tipping.

I know Bill's reason for his, he wanted something he could move servers around with, and needed something quickly. I use my SLK for that. ;-) But he liked it, so that's all that matters.

Bill, if you're still out there, meet me at PBIR with your Cayanne S X51. We'll both put in two PowerEdge towers with monitors and battery backups etc., each, and let's see if you can keep up with my V6! LOL!
 

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Suv????

What does it do for you? Do you haul stuff? Do you pull trailers? Do you off road? Do you need the ride height for floods? What is the attraction?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not downing you for owning an SUV, I just do not understand the reasons, and am ready to be educated.

They just have so many negatives compared to a sedan:

They have less traction and less control at high speeds due to their ride height allowing air underneath to cause lift, and their high center of gravity. They also brake less effectively.

Moving a big brick through the air requires a lot more gas and the weight causes slower performance per gallon.

You risk clobbering some little kid's head with your bumper because you have unnecessary ride height that will not meet up with his door support, should another car blow a light, or you do.

My favorite: A woman on a cell phone drags another woman down the road because she didn't see the fact she hit her, or can't tell the woman is pinned underneath. And what is the little red SLK behind me flashing the lights, honking the horn and screaming for? Now I have to live with another stop sign on my road because of that.

I guess my problem is with them being mainstream. I can see their use for certain situations, but as a commuter they are overkill and relatively unsafe. Even worse, what happens when these things get old, out of repair, and sold cheaply to kids who feel invincable already?

I guess SUV's would not be as much a bother to me if they were made safer for everyone else:

1. They had headlights and bumpers at sedan height. Electrically raised for off road use.
2. They had TV's on the back showing what is in front of them, like the view over or through a sedan's windows.
3. They were electronically limited to 60 MPH in a straight line, and 35 MPH in a corner, with automatic braking systems.
4. They were sold in few enough numbers as to be sold to the people that will use their benefits, and they would not be so prevalent on the road, thereby limiting the possible dangers.

To me, it seems all the empty SUV's troddling down the flat roads have become a sign of "I'm richer and my safety is more important than yours."

Yes, your points are valid. But for me...........I needed a vehicle to haul an entire family around plus all the "stuff" when we go on trips (even just around town). Sometimes a trailer behind the SUV for various gardening/construction projects around the house and all. If the mass transit system in and around SoCal is mover advanced like some of the overseas countries, then I will tend not to have the SUV or other vehicles. Some may say, "Why don't you just get a minivan"? Well, a minivan just will not drive nor ride the same as a big SUV like the Lexus LX470 (the new one LX570 is EVEN BIGGER!!). Some may say, "Why get the SLK55 AMG hardtop convertible or any SLK"? "Why not just the Bettle convertible instead or one of those OLD GEO METRO CONVERTIBLE that gets something like 45+ miles to the gallon? Cheaper to operate and uses less gas" I say again, "It is just NOT THE SAME". I guess it is a matter what one likes and all. After all this is still America (or what is still left of it). Enjoy while it is still available here. :Beer:
 
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