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I know there's not much love for the 43 on here but I've just returned from a trip to the Nurburgring then down to nice and cannes , over to Monaco and back up to Reims then back home to England . I think it's a great little car for an all rounder , lapped the ring 6 times in traffic and through 2 sets of barrier repairs in 9 mins on a public day then sat on the speed limit down to France with the top down and ten days worth of luggage for 2 people in the boot returning 35 mpg !
I keep looking at other cars to replace it but really can't see the point , it does everything I need it to and a few people came over in the car park to ask what engine was in it as they'd been more than a little surprised as how quick it was .
Only dampener on the holiday was the mate I met in Germany had a stroke the second day :surprise: ironic as we'd discussed what to do during the day and his reply was " lets go somewhere we've never been to and do something we've done here " he made a bloody good job of that ! Spent most of the German holiday time in a huge hospital in a place I can't pronounce wondering what was going on , just as well the track was open on an evening. I got him sorted out and the hospital staff were great , another mate had to fly to Germany to drive him and his car back as I had to meet my wife in nice . He's fine now .
Another bonus was we were in cannes the evening France won the World Cup , the town went crazy to say the least .
I still maintain the 43 is a hidden gem and remarkable value for money given the deals now on at car brokers , only problem is mine is probably classed as high mileage :smile:
 

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I know there's not much love for the 43 on here but I've just returned from a trip to the Nurburgring then down to nice and cannes , over to Monaco and back up to Reims then back home to England . I think it's a great little car for an all rounder , lapped the ring 6 times in traffic and through 2 sets of barrier repairs in 9 mins on a public day then sat on the speed limit down to France with the top down and ten days worth of luggage for 2 people in the boot returning 35 mpg !
I keep looking at other cars to replace it but really can't see the point , it does everything I need it to and a few people came over in the car park to ask what engine was in it as they'd been more than a little surprised as how quick it was .
Only dampener on the holiday was the mate I met in Germany had a stroke the second day :surprise: ironic as we'd discussed what to do during the day and his reply was " lets go somewhere we've never been to and do something we've done here " he made a bloody good job of that ! Spent most of the German holiday time in a huge hospital in a place I can't pronounce wondering what was going on , just as well the track was open on an evening. I got him sorted out and the hospital staff were great , another mate had to fly to Germany to drive him and his car back as I had to meet my wife in nice . He's fine now .
Another bonus was we were in cannes the evening France won the World Cup , the town went crazy to say the least .
I still maintain the 43 is a hidden gem and remarkable value for money given the deals now on at car brokers , only problem is mine is probably classed as high mileage :smile:

A 'real' world review & thus of value. Have suspected the 43 AMG is underrated not only by the Mercedes fraternity but by those unable to think beyond the Boxster. Despite some reservations about build quality absolutely nothing on the market irrespective of cost appeals to me more than a well specified 300 or 43 SLC as a replacement for my SLK.
 

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A 'real' world review & thus of value. Have suspected the 43 AMG is underrated not only by the Mercedes fraternity but by those unable to think beyond the Boxster. Despite some reservations about build quality absolutely nothing on the market irrespective of cost appeals to me more than a well specified 300 or 43 SLC as a replacement for my SLK.
Very underrated, ask the guys in the focus rs , rs3 , rs6 and new 911 ! I know my way around the track and know how to drive properly but these cars should , and the owners thought they would , drive away from me but they just got in the way . The 43 is a little nose led on track but it's easy to drive around that , the brakes just about coped as standard , but I'm not really a heavy braker although I did trigger the seat belts a couple of times , the pedal was a little soft after two laps but soon recovered , the 43 is old school compared to a boxster but I like that , and I've driven an older boxster there as well .
It rolls surprisingly a lot but once your accustomed to it you can use it to your advantage to get the weight where you want it to calm things down a little and make it very predictable. I lapped in auto mode , 9 gears on a busy Nurburgring in manual mode is asking for mistakes when your a 5 speed manual gear dinosaur like me , in sport plus . Gearbox is great and a biker that hitched a couple of passenger laps with me was amazed it was so intuitive, and he reckoned he drives a 991 turbo . He thought I was manual shifting !
As I said , there was more than a little interest in the car park and a few questions .
I drove away down to Adenau thinking " great little car this thing " and I was pleasantly surprised by it , I'll be back there next year with more suitable tyres and higher temp brake pads .
 

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Very cool! Thanks for the report.

You know a photo or two wouldn't exactly ruin this thread. :wink:

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Kim G
Redding, CA
Where it's kind of amazing that the pavement isn't yet melting tires.
 

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Well I think 9 mins is a splendid lap time especially when you consider the 43 is essentially a standard production car.

Just slipping on my anorak now with a couple of questions!
1. Were you flat out on the straights and is the 43's top speed limited to 150ish?
2. I understand it's overtaking on the left, just wondered if drivers indicate?
3. Did you pass any expensive supercars on the track?
4. Is it classed as a toll road so your normal car insurance is still valid?
5. 35mpg is great for a 3 litre V6 does the 43 have engine cylinder shutdown when cruising like on the later 55s?
Anorak now removed!

Cheers, David
 

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Very cool! Thanks for the report.

You know a photo or two wouldn't exactly ruin this thread. :wink:

Cheers,

Kim G
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Where it's kind of amazing that the pavement isn't yet melting tires.
Sorry no pics , I have a crappy camera on my phone and I was actually there alone after my mate took ill, if you google search Nurburgring photos 12 July 2018 there's a few on one of the track photographers websites , but I'm not that bothered by pics of the car and they do charge for them !
 

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Well I think 9 mins is a splendid lap time especially when you consider the 43 is essentially a standard production car.

Just slipping on my anorak now with a couple of questions!
1. Were you flat out on the straights and is the 43's top speed limited to 150ish?
2. I understand it's overtaking on the left, just wondered if drivers indicate?
3. Did you pass any expensive supercars on the track?
4. Is it classed as a toll road so your normal car insurance is still valid?
5. 35mpg is great for a 3 litre V6 does the 43 have engine cylinder shutdown when cruising like on the later 55s?
Anorak now removed!

Cheers, David
I'm guessing your considering a visit ? I'll answer truthfully and try not to put you off :wink:
The max recorded speed on the lap timer was 135mph , there's no real place to max a car on the Nurburgring, especially in traffic , the time was bridge to gantry so it doesn't include dottinger straight . To give you some perspective, my first lap I ever drove was in a new 997 Porsche carrera many years ago on a quiet track and it took almost 13 minutes !
Overtaking is only on the left as on a public day the track is classed as a de restricted one way toll road , there's all sorts of things on the track at the same time including motorbikes , normal road laws apply , normally it's the slower cars that indicate right to let you know they've seen you and won't impede your progress . But there's so many different cars and abilities only a fool would drive at ten tenths of their own and cars ability on a public day . The car would easily do bridge to gantry in 8 mins or less in the right hands and without the mindset that you have to drive the car home :grin:
I passed alsorts of cars , lots of porsches, a Ferrari , a r35 gtr spring to mind , but to give you some perspective , I pulled over to the right and indicated to let an old e36 BMW 328 past so I could try and follow him but couldn't keep up with it , tyres ,brakes , weight and ability mean everything on the Nurburgring , huge balls and self belief are also important :surprise::surprise:
Insurance is a grey area , your policy may exclude you from the Nurburgring altogether, but the reality and legal situation is if you have an accident and your at fault your insurance is legally obliged to settle the third party claim . You'll get nothing towards your own costs of damage to your car , damage to barriers that they charge for and if it's serious they can charge for track closure time . Perspective time again , if you knock a biker off and put him in a wheelchair for the rest of his life your insurance will settle the claim and pursue you through the courts to reclaim their expenses :crying:
No cylinder shut down , the 9 speed gearbox drops the revs right down when cruising at mway speeds .
I hope this answers your questions , if you are planning a trip there my advice would be go for a few days , ask a few people if it's ok to sit in their passenger seat explaining it's your first time , you'll get a better idea of the speed differential between the cars , at 130 mph I was on the right so a gt3 could pass me at nearer 150mph , probably more to be honest , through the traffic on a narrow country road in a forest :surprise:
I've done a few passenger laps with an American guy who competes in the 24 hour race every year , his almost standard Mazda mx5 laps at a consistent 9 mins on road tyres .
Good luck if you go but if you want to drive make sure your there Monday to Thursday for the 2 hour evening sessions, weekends are very busy with lots of track closures due to accidents.
Hope I haven't put you off :grin:
 

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Thanks for the comprehensive report, that is really interesting and yes answers all my questions.
I will probably never get there but very useful to know what to expect if I ever do.
Interesting about the BMW, must be 20 years old but as you say in the right hands and self belief!
Probably a regular visitor as well.
Fascinating stuff, thanks for sharing it all.:smile:
 

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One thing I've learnt after all the years I've been visiting that track is to never over or under estimate anything that's on there !
 

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Very interesting post Paul.

Wish I had the balls to try it!

Still loving the 43 but only got 8k on the clock so mine must be Low Mileage ?

Will defo keep out of your way on the M53..lol

Thanks for an excellent read!

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I sometimes amuse myself by watching video's of the amazing stupid antics at the 'ring'. Coaches & vans & Porsches & bikers all together now - wow scary!. It seems that the skill of many owners lie solely in their abilities to apply stickers & spoilers to scrapyard BMW Compacts & 3 Series.
So it's good to read of such an intelligent report of driving an SLC & the advice offered.
 

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I sometimes amuse myself by watching video's of the amazing stupid antics at the 'ring'. Coaches & vans & Porsches & bikers all together now - wow scary!. It seems that the skill of many owners lie solely in their abilities to apply stickers & spoilers to scrapyard BMW Compacts & 3 Series.
So it's good to read of such an intelligent report of driving an SLC & the advice offered.
There's a lot of , all the gear no idea , people go there . If anyone's considering a trip I'd strongly advise some track instruction if your not familiar with a track environment. Some of the seemingly scrap bmws are fast beyond belief just down to the lack of weight, I'm talking plastic windows and no underseal seriousness, and tyres , where a road car is braking they just fly past and carry so much speed through the corner it's truly a sight to witness.
The really expensive cars are split between wealthy hard core drivers and even more wealthy fools who rely on the car to do everything for them , the type that listen to someone saying " don't worry , the traction control will sort it out so drive as fast as you want "
I'd recommend a Nurburgring visit to anyone who loves cars but if your going to take your car onto the , track - de restricted toll road , do it with your eyes wide open !
As I said , I think the 43amg is a very underrated car , I know the v8 crowd don't like them but it is a good car .
 

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Thanks for Your take on the SLC43:

As far as two seater touring hard top/convertible sports cars go, the SLC43 is now the only upgrade route to take..??
...and with a 3.5 month lead time on factory orders (to get the 70l fuel tank, for example) Your really need to place one's order by the end of November to get it shipped to the UK before 30th March 2019.... Plus avoid a possible 9.8% world trade tariff being added to the agreed price... :surprise:

Interesting what mpg You got on an Euro Road Trip.
Steady cruising at SatNav 128kmh (79mph) in the 2010 SLK 350, top down steadies out at ~32mpg, then drops to mid 20's when driving/playing in the mountains..... R)

Re: Nurburgring, from My car insurance company, You can get add on Insurance for Track Days....!!
Though having looked into visiting Nurburgring, I think I'd prefer a passenger ride or two before even considering taking My SLK/SLC around it....
 

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Just an observation but most people have no idea what driving really fast is like. Seems to me like there is "10/10"s, then a plateau where no one can drive, then a narrow point of really fast. To the driver a dry pavement feels like ice. To an observer the car appears slow because it must be incredibly smooth and with very small inputs often 1/8 of a mile before reaching the change point to get the car set up for the turn. You steer with all four wheels. "Drifting" has always amused me because it is not very fast (but does make a show and keeps the tire companies in business.

Point is there is no way I would want to be on the ring with amateurs, they are too unpredictable. Wonder if Sabine still drives one of the "taxis".
 

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I would love a “taxi” ride with her as my driver. She ticks all the boxes: smart, talented, funny, calm as well as the bonus of being easy on the eyes!
 

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I would love a “taxi” ride with her as my driver. She ticks all the boxes: smart, talented, funny, calm as well as the bonus of being easy on the eyes!
Ditto - She would be My first choice for "Taxi" ride....!!

Going back a few years when I looked, the waiting list for BMW M3 Taxi rides was very long..... But is still on My "ToDo List" :)
 

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She doesn't drive the taxis any longer , there's now an entire section of the car park that various companies offer taxi rides from , there's an f type jag and a mclaren , the newer one I think , from one company , numerous bmws of varying descriptions and a few others .
I've never tried one as there's always someone who will give you a passenger seat for free , just choose carefully !
And I believe she's married , her family run the pistonclaus restaurant, or at least they used to from what I was told .
 

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Very interesting post Paul.

Wish I had the balls to try it!

Still loving the 43 but only got 8k on the clock so mine must be Low Mileage ?

Will defo keep out of your way on the M53..lol

Thanks for an excellent read!

Tom
Mines a 2017 and I have only put 2772 miles on the clock. Being ill for a year can get you a VERY low mileage example lol.

Excellent write up on the SLC43 @Paulwirral and I agree with your comments. Also nice info on the ring. Mine will be going soon although probably 2019 now as I am planning a road trip through Holland into Germany. Skipping France lol.
 

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I am in a 2018 GLC43 AMG loaner from my MB dealer as they examine my SLK for cat converter issue. So far I have put in about 500 miles over this weekend, so my thoughts are based on that much driving experience... I have no problem with this 43 motor... it is a very strong engine and pulls like crazy all through the rev bands... The loaner had the noise bubbler enhancer, and the car in S+ and bubbler noise turned ON, had fun cackles. My wife didn't like the "exhaust noise", but I liked them.... fake as they sound, I think they give the car some xter. You won't hear me rag on any MB with the 43 motor... never. Turbo lag? what turbo lag? none that I observed....
 
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