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Question Roof problem - visit workshop

The roof was working perfectly fine with SmartTop module since I bought the Green Beauty. ~2 weeks ago I couldn't open the roof for the first time, but after 2-3 attempts I got it opened. Yesterday I could not close the roof - it took mi 10 minutes and many, many tries to do it. Right now I can't open it - event the boot lid doesn't go up. After a few tries I managed to get the roof lid up half-open. I checked for leaks 2 cylinders in the top of the boot and the 2 in the rear - bottom of the boot - all dry. I found that hinge of the boot separator was misplaced, but putting it back didn't fix the problem. Once in a while the roof was not moving smoothly - it was like a 0.5 seconds of break and then kept going. I don't think it's oil problem as the 5th cylinder is over my head, so I'd spot a leak


What's the troubleshooting procedure? Should I start with the switches? Help!!!



I have a multi-meter & a crappy OBDII tester.



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Mmmmm..... maybe a motor (pump) problem, I had that on my 2004, similar symptoms, luckily fixed under Warranty, don’t ask the price if it is, you don’t want to know......
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The roof was working perfectly fine with SmartTop module since I bought the Green Beauty. ~2 weeks ago I couldn't open the roof for the first time, but after 2-3 attempts I got it opened. Yesterday I could not close the roof - it took mi 10 minutes and many, many tries to do it. Right now I can't open it - event the boot lid doesn't go up. After a few tries I managed to get the roof lid up half-open. I checked for leaks 2 cylinders in the top of the boot and the 2 in the rear - bottom of the boot - all dry. I found that hinge of the boot separator was misplaced, but putting it back didn't fix the problem. Once in a while the roof was not moving smoothly - it was like a 0.5 seconds of break and then kept going. I don't think it's oil problem as the 5th cylinder is over my head, so I'd spot a leak


What's the troubleshooting procedure? Should I start with the switches? Help!!!



I have a multi-meter & a crappy OBDII tester.



I found this: https://www.billsden.org/fileadmin/m...vario_roof.pdf



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disable the smarttop and then see if the roof works as it should
if it does, the smarttop needs to be reprogrammed by you

if it does not, you have ruled out the st as the cause


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are you running the car while using the smarttop if not driving?


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I did that when I was trying to close the roof - still the same.
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when you tried to open or close the roof and it did not finish the operation, did you try to do the opposite or did you continue in the same direction?

like, if you started to open and then it stopped, did you continue trying the open operation or did u switch to closing it


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I think I tried both ways - do I need to "reset" is in a similar way it's with the windows?
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In case it's important: it doesn't even get to the stage when the actual roof moves. It stops after very short time when windows/boot lid moves.
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I think I tried both ways - do I need to "reset" is in a similar way it's with the windows?
how old is battery?

you can try a battery reset for giggles

disconnect neg cable for minimum of 30 minutes
reconnect
synch windows set clock
see what happens


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Max 3 years. I had OEM battery in 2019: https://www.slkworld.com/2720370-post8.html


Battery disconnected.... waiting.....waiting....
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i think u answered this somewhat

disable the smarttop and then see if the roof works as it should


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you check the fuses that handle the roof?


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SmartTop is disabled since yesterday, but that didn't help.



Edit: Link removed as it was not relevant - it's about noise/leaks.
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you check the fuses that handle the roof?

No.. I though if it's moving the fuses should be OK. I'll do it when I reconnect the battery.


I'm trying to figure out where are the micro switches - I think it might be one of them.


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What are you seeing in the instrument cluster, and are you hearing the pump run?

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https://www.slkworld.com/slk-r171-cl...criptions.html

switches, etc here:

https://www.billsden.org/fileadmin/m...vario_roof.pdf


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Battery reset didn't help. Fuses on the left side of th dashboard are OK (one 40A is 25A, but all are good). The roof opened to this position after battery reset and windows reset:
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