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What oil do you recommend for this time of year?

My next oil change is coming up. And how much oil does it need?
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Just for reference:
Mercedes-Benz Specifications for Operating Fluids
(For use in specific vehicles/engines refer to Sheet 223.2)


http://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevoli...ets-sort1.html

Mobile 1 Product Guide

http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/...duct_Guide.pdf
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Since you are in NY, you can't go wrong with 0W-40 for all year round (one-size-fit-all). Attached is an old article but I found interesting that talks about the motor oil viscosity (grades and their low temperature specs.)
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Here's what it says in my 2001 230 manual.
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Mine has Mobil 0w-40 in it. That may or may not suit the temperatures the vehicle will experience in NY.
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Here is another oil question for the oil gurus here.

MB had always recommended Mobil One ( there are others accepted but Mobil One is THE oil of choice) and has always stated that synthetic is a MUST.

Now only Mobil One Extended Performance is a true class IV synthetic, all other Mobil One products are the class III "synthetics" that are petroleum based, has MB updated their recommendations on oil?
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Here is another oil question for the oil gurus here.

MB had always recommended Mobil One ( there are others accepted but Mobil One is THE oil of choice) and has always stated that synthetic is a MUST.

Now only Mobil One Extended Performance is a true class IV synthetic, all other Mobil One products are the class III "synthetics" that are petroleum based, has MB updated their recommendations on oil?
Only reason MB recommends Mobile 1 is because Mobil has PAID MB large amounts of money for the exclusivity of being the Official oil of MB.

A very small amount of "Synthetic" oils are truly synthetic, the majority are Group III - this is a highly refined mineral oil made through a process called hydrocracking. In North America this group is considered a synthetic oil, for marketing purposes.

http://www.synthetic-oil-technology.info/

Mobile 1 is made from Alkenes, Alkenes are produced by hydrocarbon cracking. Raw materials are mostly natural gas condensate components (principally ethane and propane) in the US and Mideast and naphtha in Europe and Asia.
SO EVEN MOBILE 1 IS MADE FROM PETROLEUM BASE.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olefin#Synthesis
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Alkenes-LOL there is a reason that I am not an ER surgeon letting MB do the maintenance on my car...and the reason would be chemistry. All of the C, H, and O's running around the page makes my head spin. I read it but do not really understand it...

The class III is an American advertising screw-up. Only in America can a class III oil be considered a synthetic. So for Mobil One to be considered a synthetic in the EU, it has to be a class IV oil. Generally class IV oils are PAO (crude derived) synthetic. Class III are Class II (petroleum derived) oils (mineral oil) that have been modified to be more like synthetic oils.

So Mobil One still has to have at least 1 class IV to be sold as synthetic in the EU. Here is my rephrased question.

Has MB tested the class III and approved it for MB engines or are their recommendation on the EU class IV version.

Just for my further education:
Back to the previous comment about Alkenes-I think( think being the operative word) all oils are derived from modification of hydrocarbons, just one set comes from crude and some are derived from petroleum. So are Alkenes from crude or from the further refine petroleum?
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Alkenes-LOL there is a reason that I am not an ER surgeon letting MB do the maintenance on my car...and the reason would be chemistry. All of the C, H, and O's running around the page makes my head spin. I read it but do not really understand it...

The class III is an American advertising screw-up. Only in America can a class III oil be considered a synthetic. So for Mobil One to be considered a synthetic in the EU, it has to be a class IV oil. Generally class IV oils are PAO (crude derived) synthetic. Class III are Class II (petroleum derived) oils (mineral oil) that have been modified to be more like synthetic oils.

So Mobil One still has to have at least 1 class IV to be sold as synthetic in the EU. Here is my rephrased question.

Has MB tested the class III and approved it for MB engines or are their recommendation on the EU class IV version.

Just for my further education:
Back to the previous comment about Alkenes-I think( think being the operative word) all oils are derived from modification of hydrocarbons, just one set comes from crude and some are derived from petroleum. So are Alkenes from crude or from the further refine petroleum?
Alkenes (Naphtha) is obtained in petroleum refineries as one of the intermediate products from the distillation of crude oil. It is a liquid intermediate between the light gases in the crude oil and the heavier liquid kerosene.[12] Naphthas are volatile, flammable and have a specific gravity of about 0.7
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naphtha
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