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#1 Old 02-28-2017
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Question How much interior paint do I need?

Hi all,

As spring is getting near I feel like I would like to get my R170 looking good for the nicer weather.

One of the little projects I wish to get on with is to remove all of my interior panels and remove all of the paint and respray them. They look awful at the moment as they have lots of paint peel and are generally very dirty.

I was wondering how much paint I would need to complete this task.

I was looking at getting some of the Volico paint from germany which is quite expensive so I wanted to know how many 150ml cans I would need to complete this task.

They say that I should prime it first, paint it and then apply a top coat. Apparently the paint only covers 0.5m2 where the primer and top coat each cover 2.0m2

Do I really need to prime it first or can I get away with just the paint followed by top coat seeing as the paint is €21.50 and the primer and top coat is €18.90 each for 150ml.

Also, is for anyone who has used them before is it worth getting the Spray Master thing they sell? I can't see how it's going to make a difference.

They sell a special cleaner but I was thinking of just using some IPA or LO30 as it's a lot cheaper unless anyone advises against using them.

Sorry for all the questions. I really want to do this job only once so I need to do it properly!

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I have just done exactly that!
I used :-
1 x 150ml Primer
2 x 150ml basecoat
1 x 150ml topcoat
1 x bottle liquid paint (for touch-up) {It's called "VLC Colour"}
There was some primer left over. I didn't paint the complete door-panels. There was JUST enough base-coat to give two coats.
I suggest 3 cans of the base-coat to be on the safe-side

It's a perfect colour match but is "fragile". Any contact when re-assembling will abrade the new surface! It's just as well I had that bottle of touch-up paint!
In fact, I've even used it since! It is a pity that the cans are so small! You will have to rub-down all surfaces to get a good, matt finish ready for spraying. Even then, it can still be detected after spraying where previous damage has occurred. Oh, you really DO need that primer for the plastic surfaces -hope that this helps ....

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My interior was a bit chipped and scuffed, I bought 1 can and masked off where I wanted to keep clean then used a small piece of sponge to dab the paint over the chips to build up the paint.

Stll looks ok today. Will try and link to my post.

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Had a try at repainting with Merlin Blue , try this in the search bar. Then go to page 19
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I used about half of the can doing one interior door panel (just the insert) and also the centre arm rest.

I did mess up the interior door handle once though so had to paint that twice. I would say 3 cans of paint to be on the safe side (as previous poster said), as for the 'need' for primer, I used it and it seems to have worked well, see if you can get hold of a cheap hair dryer though, makes the process a lot quicker for drying the coats especially if you plan on doing the entire interior.

Having said that I did not sand down my centre arm rest and just cleaned (with Volico cleaner) put two coats on it + top coat and it looks immaculate.

I will post some pictures tomorrow for you to have a look.

Unsure of the difference the paint master attachment makes, I bought it with the bundle didn't try painting without.
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Thanks for your reply guys. I'll take on peoples advice and primer it first then have three cans of touch up paint so I know I have enough spare. My interior is 225A Sand and Quartz so it's a light colour and I may need extra layers.

How long did you wait between each coat of paint?
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Gently warm the surfaces with a hot-air blower prior to spraying. I even warm the spray-tin in a jug of hot water. Leave for about 30 mins. before re-spray. (The tin says that it is touch-dry in that time). That's the exact same colour that I used (Quartz) Do get that touch-up bottle, too .... After spraying, it doesn't appear to be a hard, robust surface and I've already used the touch-up bottle several times! (and that was with the top-coat!)

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How much interior paint do i need?

If its just your centre consul and glove box and other consul trim maybe use a small bottle of the dark grey Volico as I did (before and after pics are posted in my garage), I found one small bottle which you dab on with an applicator (I didn't use the spray can product), enough to cover the usual minor paint flecks that you get along all the centre trim. If you are doing your door cards/door pockets, maybe Volico might do a darker grey/black, with which to also dab over the door cards... or use Volico spray paint as used by other forum members. kevin
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just out of curiosity could you get all/most of the smooth bits hydro dipped rather than painted?
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I used the VLC Nitro lacquer that you can find on eBay. It comes in 100 mL bottles. I stripped all of the parts to the bare plastic using generic lacquer thinner. I then scuffed with green Scotch-Brite and I applied the paint right from the bottle - no thinner / reducer using a LVLP gravity-feed gun. onto the parts without any primer. I've put lacquer onto plastic MANY times without using primer and it sticks fine as long as your first coat is medium-wet. If it's a dry coat the paint will eventually flake off easily. Two medium-wet coats on the bare plastic would be OK but I shot 3 coats. It dries really fast so it's hard to keep a wet edge so you you'll get banding if you're not careful. Cut-in all f the edges then start on one side and work towards the other - always keeping a wet edge. The stuff flashes almost immediately - especially if it's hot in the shop.

I used no primer and after the paint was dry for a week I tested the adhesion on one of the parts : Green Scotch-Brite doesn't seem to affect it at all. I haven't tried to dig into it with a screw-driver but it looks like it stuck really well. We'll see after it's been in the car for awhile.

Oh yeah I used about 6 100 mL bottles for my console and all of my dash pieces (including the inner and outer glove-box). If you don't strip to the bare plastic you might not need as much paint as I did but I would be concerned about getting good adhesion to the old / existing paint. I tried to "touch-up" and overspray one of the parts that I had feathered out with lacquer thinner AND Scoth-Brite and I could still see all of the original scratch lines after the first coat so I ended up stripping the part to the bare plastic. That's the trouble with lacquer: it's a really thin film so the surface has to be near perfect no matter how many coats you put on.
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Did our whole interior last year. Soaking in hot water softens the paint. Can be removed almost completely that way. Another approach is to use a pressure washer but the plastic is prone to breakage.
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I did whole interior except doors recently with paint form VOLCO. I ordered 1 can of primer, 1 can of top coat and 2 cans of scarlet red + for backup i also ordered touch up pen in same color just in case for future dings that may ocurre. I got items in little more then one week.

I stiped all the red panels from the car and let them soak in warm watter for a whole night to soften the paint. However, the paint still didn't just peel of so easy. I tryed for some time doing it by hand, but later finished the job with presure washer, althoug on some spots it still didn't want to come of, so on those hidden places i left it, on the other i went again with hand.

After that, i went over all surfeces to be painted with light sandpaper (i don't remeber excacly, but I think it was somwhere around 800), rinse it with watter, let it dry for some time and then wipe it clean with alcohol. I hang all the pieces from the sealing and turned on the heater, so the room and pieces were warm.

I started with primer, i did one light coat on all surfaces and let it dry for 10 minutes. Then I appled first very light coat of red and waited for another 10 minutes. There is a lot of surfaces to spray so I quickly learned that 2 cans probably won't be enough.
I did 2 coats with each can, so total of 4 coats, but didn't paint the small piece under the steering wheel and inside of glove box because they were easyest to paint in case i ran out of the pait which I later did.

I noticed two small black spots that paint didnt stick, so I used tuch up pen and noticed, that the paint didn't excacly match the can. Then I applied light top coat and reasemble the whole thing. I must say the paint is very robust, not so easy to scratch but it feels a little more plastic to touch than original, but looks great.

I later wrote to VOLCO regarding difrent color shades in pen and can and to get one more can of red color to paint the rest of the plastics and didn't give me any hard time and send me one can of read paint for free to cover color mismaches, so they have a plus in my book.

I repainted tuch ups and the rest of the plastics and now it looks perfect. Since then i didn't treat newly painted plastics with care and they don't seem to have any damage or scufs yet. I did notice tho that on those hiden areas that were some paint left on the surfice the step is visible, so I would recomend removing all the paint panel you want to paint.

In total I would recomemnd you get from VOLICO:
1x can of primer
3x cans of your color
1x can of toap coat

I did have almost half of can of primer and top cat left in the and, but there is almost no way I would be able to suficently paint all plastic bists with just two cans, I was realy waching out so I wouldn't use to much paint on any spot so that two cans would be enugh, but was not even close so if you want to compleatly cover all surfaces 3 cans is minimum.

Hope this helps for future DIY

BR

Here is the picture with that tuch up mismach color, and after respray
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