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Buying a R170 - please advise me

Hi there,

I'm based in the U.K and I've found a W reg (year 2000) 200 slk automatic on eBay.

It's has 70k on the clock. The car in the pics looks great.

however, I contacted the seller (a private garage) and they say the car currently has issues and needs its lambda senors changed. He said this should be an easy fix for him.

Should I stay away from this car? Will this cause as issue for me in the future if this is not fixed properly?

Or if he can fix it, then maybe I will be trouble free with the car?

Thanks for your help and advise.

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Hi there,

I'm based in the U.K and I've found a W reg (year 2000) 200 slk automatic on eBay.

It's has 70k on the clock. The car in the pics looks great.

however, I contacted the seller (a private garage) and they say the car currently has issues and needs its lambda senors changed. He said this should be an easy fix for him.

Should I stay away from this car? Will this cause as issue for me in the future if this is not fixed properly?

Or if he can fix it, then maybe I will be trouble free with the car?

Thanks for your help and advise.

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Simple get him to fix it

Then take for a long test drive and get it in writing if that issue comes up again they will fix it for free what ever the issue is .
Once purchased get an mot test / emmisions done the next day .
Regardless if it has an mot .

And see what comes up with defects / emmisions data

If all good great if not go back and if not resolved get money back .
And by all means get someone who knows about slk to check it over thoroughly before purchase .
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If the car is the right price and the dealer puts new Lambda sensors on - no problem. Just take it for a l-o-n-g test run and scan it for errors. The sensors being faulty will do no harm, just make it uneconomical to run and ruin the emissions. As said before, a new MOT will confirm all is OK. It never hurts to replace old sensors anyway. Mine ran better with a tune and new MAF sensor. Check the roof by opening and shutting many times - it should be smooth in operation, also check the battery as SLK's are very fussy with battery condition. The auto box should be silky smooth also. (70K possible auto box fluid change)

A very nice car to own and drive - many UK car shows will let you in for free as it is a 'classic'. See you in Skegness one day in the summer?

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Hi there,

I'm based in the U.K and I've found a W reg (year 2000) 200 slk automatic on eBay.

It's has 70k on the clock. The car in the pics looks great.

however, I contacted the seller (a private garage) and they say the car currently has issues and needs its lambda senors changed. He said this should be an easy fix for him.

Should I stay away from this car? Will this cause as issue for me in the future if this is not fixed properly?

Or if he can fix it, then maybe I will be trouble free with the car?

Thanks for your help and advise.

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First question to ask yourself, if it's such an easy fix why not do it before selling?
Is it because that failure is a symptom of something else failing and comes back after being fixed?

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If the car is the right price and the dealer puts new Lambda sensors on - no problem. Just take it for a l-o-n-g test run and scan it for errors. The sensors being faulty will do no harm, just make it uneconomical to run and ruin the emissions. As said before, a new MOT will confirm all is OK. It never hurts to replace old sensors anyway. Mine ran better with a tune and new MAF sensor. Check the roof by opening and shutting many times - it should be smooth in operation, also check the battery as SLK's are very fussy with battery condition. The auto box should be silky smooth also. (70K possible auto box fluid change)

A very nice car to own and drive - many UK car shows will let you in for free as it is a 'classic'. See you in Skegness one day in the summer?

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Don't place too much on an MOT.

Use your eyes and the lists on here, especially the recalls/TSBs.

Examine carefully for rust under arches and around the inner rear bodywork.
Test the roof.

There's no need to travel too far for an R170. Plenty out there.

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Don't place too much on an MOT.

Use your eyes and the lists on here, especially the recalls/TSBs.

Examine carefully for rust under arches and around the inner rear bodywork.
Test the roof.

There's no need to travel too far for an R170. Plenty out there.
Hes buying a car from someone he does not know
And its got o2 issues etc if that is the cause of engine issues ??

So an mot test will see how good the engine is running and if the new o2 have been replaced and doing there job .
If the emmisions are still high it may not be the 02 sensor's and something else .

A independent mot test will show all and while its on the ramp they may let you look underneath car for possible future corrosions .

A shiny polished slk it worthless as such if it has engine issues .

And once youve bought the car the forecourt garage do fob you off .

Get a thourough test and check over and emmision test before you buy if possible .
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An MOT is only as good as the testing station and only accurate at the point of measurement.

Taking to a test station you trust is very different to getting a printout from the buyer.
Just look at some of those bad exhausts you get to follow at times.
They passed an MOT.

Since the buyer themselves say it is an easy fix you have to wonder why not fix it before advertising.

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An MOT is only as good as the testing station and only accurate at the point of measurement.

Taking to a test station you trust is very different to getting a printout from the buyer.
Just look at some of those bad exhausts you get to follow at times.
They passed an MOT.

Since the buyer themselves say it is an easy fix you have to wonder why not fix it before advertising.
It will be his quickest and cheapest method of getting exhaust emmisions test results ( all mot test machines are calibrated every year to give correct emission on there machines )

He only wants to know if there are high ppm
And HC results are above there limits and engine is running nicely and the O2 sensors have been changed .

Never go by what a garage tells you !
You have to do the work yourself .

Besides an 02 issue is nothing if the car is rotton .

He needs to take someone with him that knows mercs.
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That's for all your messages. I haven't seen the car, but when I text the buyer he actually said the car misfires and he believes it's the Lambda sensors causing it. Looking through this forum, it seems it could be a number of issues that cause misfire, I'm worried this car could be a lemon!

Thoughts?

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Went to see a car

hi everyone,

I went to see another year 2000, 200 SLK. Manual transmission, cloth seats with 77K miles on the clock. The private owner wants £2000 for it.

This the first SLK I've seen. It wasn't the cleanest example. Here are things I noticed:

1) Rust bubbles on all four wheel arches. All alloys were corroded too. Some rust on the boot button too.
2) Car seemed to drive OK and has passed its MOT recently. ROOF works fine.
3) Not 100% sure if the air con and cigarette lighter works.
4) At least 2 front tires will need changing in the coming year (this was an advisory on the MOT)
5) Interior paint is chipped on centre console and handles.
6) Owner struggled to close the bonnet, once we opened it. it eventually closed.

I have attached pics too.

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The above side skirt was a bit loose.

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What do you all this car? Could I get it fixed at a reasonable price? or should I keep looking for better car? I think my budget would be £3000 max.

I suspect the body work would be a huge cost in its self?

thanks for your help.

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My SLK had had a full respray two years before I had it - and the bill for that was £1,400.

In terms of assessing repairs, I allowed around the following:
- About £120 per new tyre
- About £75 per alloy wheel refurbishment
- About £300 a panel for rust repair. (check around the boot lock for rust too!)
- Check the dash when you start the car for how long there is to go to the next service
- Allow about £600 for a good indy-done service B (£800 if you go to a dealer)
- Around £800 for a new pump if the roof mechanism needs it
- Allow £80 to replace the boot lid struts
- The interior can be done by yourself. It's not expensive - just time consuming.

You'll obviously need tax and insurance too.

What I did then was to put my possible cars into a spreadsheet and work out the overall cost to buy each car and put it 'right'. You can also then give the seller an idea how much you think the car would cost and use that to barter the price.

Good luck. Once bought, and put right, these are great little cars to drive around. The smile factor makes them well worth it!

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Oh - and if you can, try to get a facelift model. The ride is better, the seats are better, the suspension is better, the gearbox is better, there's more power from the engine....

You get the picture.
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Oh - and if you can, try to get a facelift model. The ride is better, the seats are better, the suspension is better, the gearbox is better, there's more power from the engine....
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This is good advice mine is the facelift 320 2000 great car you need to watch the rust it could be well rusted behind what you see on the surface
There are a few for sale I would look FL model and no rust as least as possible <bearing in mind the models up to 2004 are prone to a bit of rust in the places you describe>
good luck worth waiting for the right car IMHO
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Costco do Bridgestones for around £90 fitted.
Last longer but not as grippy as Michelin.
If you know someone with a card.

Tyres on the drive are a good guide for tyre price when you're looking at replacing pairs.

The rust is a case of looking more closely.
On the floor and look behind the rear bumper.

The bonnet not closing might be a worry.

The other car, misfire depends on whether you are a gambler or not.
My thought is if it was an easy/cheap fix why wouldn't a seller do that before sale.

See a couple of more cars and you'll have a better idea of how much bang your buck will buy.

Check if the foam around the pse pump is bone dry.
Check under the spare wheel to see if it's damp.
Check the drain hole in the well and look for rust around the edge of the rubber plug.
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Welcome to the forum buddy

I am also in UK and just last week picked up a 2000 SLK 320 in Silver (first Mercedes)

Same rust issue's as you mate, on all for wings, front Ones being the worst, but only surface rust, it's not lie I can poke my finger through it!

So my plan for now is to sand back the rust as best I can, then treat it with rust killer, and prime before "trying" to paint over those area's

I decided to try and get it sorted myself simply as getting it done by a garage is around £600 and my feeling is try myself, and if I cock it up, no real harm done, and can still get it done professionally

As the rear arches were only very minor rust patches, I treated those, and have ordered some chrome wheel arch trims off eBay, so we will see how that works out

(I will wait for the first member to pipe up and say what a bad idea that is haha)

The interior paint pealing seems to be very common too, but there is a really good product for fixing that which is about £35 here in the UK

So far I am really lovin this 320 and cant wait to get the wings sorted so she looks perfect again

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Only paid £1200 for mine due to the rust so make sure to get a discount if yours has the same




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Looks a nice 320 great wee car same year as mine love it you had a good price I think how many miles on it?
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Looks a nice 320 great wee car same year as mine love it you had a good price I think how many miles on it?
Has 97.000 Miles which is quite low for it's age

MOT till next December with no advisories

Last owner spent £970 on it December 2015 too
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A lot of it is expectation.

Higher prices are no guarantee of better quality.

R170s are at least 12 years old. Nearly 17 in the example above.

They are still fun, still create memories and smiles.

Mercedes Enthusiast has a multi page article on buying the four generations of SLK.
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