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#1 Old 04-24-2012
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Force needed to close doors...

Inspired by another thread in these forums regarding whether the windows on the R170 will open slightly when opening the doors to facilitate closing the doors again (like it is available on the R171 and so many other small cabin cars), I would like to ask my fellow R170 drivers about their experience of the required force to close their doors since we dont have the automatic window operation.

I find that my '98 230 requires quite a firm hand to close the doors. So much in fact that I usually open the window an inch or so when getting into the car before closing the door. Obviously, I cannot do that when leaving the car (at least I have not figured out a way to close the windows after leaving the car ) - so here I have to apply my iron fist fearing for the door interior to fly off. Ok, maybe the interior will come off anyway, but the force required to close the door certainly doesnt help

Is anyone else here annoyed about this issue? Did anyone figure out a solution?

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Is your heat / AC on recirculate or open to outside air? My thinking is, that if it's set to open it would allow some air pressure to equalize. I assume from the outset that the door is flush when closed, the latch is properly lubricated...


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Mine does the same thing, but is limited to the driver's door only; passenger door closes easily with the window glass fully raised. Also, the hinges are all tight and the door doesn't "sag" at all when first opened. With the window slightly cracked, the door closes & latches easily.

The heat/AC damper position has no effect, in fact the passenger door could be open, and the same condition exists on the driver's side.

What I have found,though, is that after closing the driver's door from the outside, with the glass fully raised, it is possible to push in on the rear/top edge of the glass, and it will "pop" in behind the rubber gasket along the roof edge.

I wouldn't worry too much about the door card flying off due to hard closing from the outside, but I CAN tell you.......a wife trying to slam it closed a few times by pulling on the armrest "MAY" pull the card apart. On the bright side.....I have a good start on accessing the glass to xheck alignment.
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Is your heat / AC on recirculate or open to outside air? My thinking is, that if it's set to open it would allow some air pressure to equalize. I assume from the outset that the door is flush when closed, the latch is properly lubricated...
The flap is set to "outside". I have the same thinking as you, but it still makes a significant difference whether the window is cracked open so apparantly it is difficult for the cabin air to escape through the heater fan etc

I believe that the doors are flush and I have lubricated the hinges and latches. It does seem to me however that the doors "pop out" when I open them like if the window leans too much against the rubber frames (but they sit nicely in the grooves in the rubber frames).

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[QUOTE=Backpacker85;300869]
What I have found,though, is that after closing the driver's door from the outside, with the glass fully raised, it is possible to push in on the rear/top edge of the glass, and it will "pop" in behind the rubber gasket along the roof edge./QUOTE]

that sounds like you can adjust your window stop to resolve your problem
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