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#1 Old 05-19-2010
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330426497555&ssPageNam e=STRK:MEWAX:IT

For sale over in Stratford (UK). I've been to see it and can add the following

FSH, all except the last one with MB main dealers
Rust round wheel arches, being repaired by seller
Comes with 12 month MOT, 6 months tax, 3 months warrenty
Interior of hood is clean, no visible hydraulic leaks in the boot
Trim is a bit worn in places but other than that, the general condition of it is very good indeed.

I've been through the lists on here and will give it a thorough checking over before making a final decision on it.

Has anyone 'in the know' seen it? What do you recon on the price? It's up for £5,995 - a hell of a lot of car for the money, but with no aircon etc it's low on extra's. Seems about right, give or take a couple of £100, for a dealer car.

Another thing, I fiddled with the seat but, at 6ft my head is just brushing the roof - is there another adjustment I'm missing? (other than to put the top down)

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Hi, car looks good from pics on ebay. Cant help thinking that a 200k will be a tad underpowered also as you say not much equipment. At the moment you can get some cracking 230's or even a v6 320 at that price level.
Also when you come to sell it on, whats the resale value going to be like for a relatively base version.
Slk's are superb fun and im sure the car you looked at would make you smile, i just look to get as much bang for my buck as i can.
Try and get a car that is registered before march 2001 as well otherwise you will get fleeced with road tax, paying for the mp's expenses
Good luck with what ever car you get
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Cant help thinking that a 200k will be a tad underpowered also as you say not much equipment. At the moment you can get some cracking 230's or even a v6 320 at that price level.
Not sure what I was expecting before the test drive, but I was amazed how much power the 200k had (which will no doubt make all you 230+ owners laugh). Besides, underpowered is good, it'll stop me going quite so crazy with the thing. Plus I've come over to SLK's from motorcycles so can't bring any NCB apparently and as such, the 200 represents a good start whilst building up some insurance history. A bit of economy would be good too.

What do you recon to the asking price on this one?
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The insurance group is 16 for the 200, 17 for the 230 and 18 for the 320.

Buying a low spec 200 without air conditioning and auto gearbox could be difficult to sell on at a later date. Most SLK buyers want A/C, auto and leather. Also, you will soon get used to the 200's performance and yearn for the superb 320V6, especially after biking. I think the £6K asking price is too much. I bet the trader bought it in at around £4K because of its low spec, rusty wheel arches (they all do that sir!!!)

You will be able to buy an auto 230 Kompressor with A/C and leather for £6 to £6.5K. The insurance should not be too much more as it is only 1 group higher. As cornercob has already said, buy pre-March 2001 and road tax is £205.00, and not based on emissions.

Try here:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2000-Mercedes-Benz-SLK-230-Kompressor-/300423984477?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=i tem45f2aa355d
and here:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2000-MERCEDES-SLK-230-KOMPRESSOR-AUTO-CONVERTABLE-P-X-/220608030249?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=i tem335d436629

Fuel consumption won't be much different between the models in the real world. The lower power car will require wider throttle openings than the more powerful cars, reducing fuel efficiency.

I recently bought this X reg. November 2000 SLK 320 auto with A/C and 2 tone leather, 70,000 miles, 2 owners, with full Merc service history for £7450.

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230K! SuperCharger! You're going to want the speed eventually... then you'll want the pulley upgrade Plus yeah, leather, A/C... it is nice to be able to stay cool if you've been tired from being in the sun too long...
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Robnobrakes - I had a look at those two on ebay. The red interior makes my eyes bleed, I'm sure it's to some people's taste but it's too much for me. The second looked tempting.

I get what you are saying about the spec and the engine size. TBH, I was aware there were flaws in my logic. I did see the link to your car, looks exceptional (if perhaps a little pricey given the 2 others you've listed). I have to fess up and say I've already put a deposit on 'mine', though I've not agreed a final price yet, so I'll use the lack of spec to try and get the price down significantly. Yeah, I figured they paid 4 - 4.2 px on it, and though Parkers has the car at around 5.7, 5.3 is more realistic given that it is the base model. As for resale values, what's the difference going to be on a 14 year old car with a/c and old leather versus one without, £300 / £400? more? not a great deal. If I can factor some of that into the sale price, it won't hurt so much.

I'm selling the following vehicle so I'm no stranger to the need for more power

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220607180068

I wanted auto, but the g/f wants manual, plus she's a veggie and doesn't like leather in cars. I know, I know, a manual 200 fabric for her, and a 320 leather with nitrous for me. Partly, I'm hoping to resist the urge for more grunt, in the short term at least. If the trike ever sells, then I may have to re-consider.

Pdubq - the one I'm looking at is the Kompressor (is there a model of 200 that isn't?), so what kind of difference are we talking here, really? 7.9 sec 0-60 and 138 top speed versus 7.3 and 142 for the 230, 6.8 and 150 for the 320. 1.1 sec slower 0 - 60 and oh, I'll only be able to exceed the speed limit by a mere 68mph rather than 80; I can live with that. Given that I was looking at buying an MGTF, a 200k with 2 spark plugs missing would be quick in comparison.
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I'm selling the following vehicle so I'm no stranger to the need for more power

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220607180068
Interesting standing 1/4 time. By way of comparison I achieved a standing 1/4 of 111mph in 12.7 seconds at North Weald 'run what you brung' last May on my modified Triumph Thruxton. I may have been a few 10ths and a few mph quicker had I shortened the gearing to stock.
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the one I'm looking at is the Kompressor (is there a model of 200 that isn't?)
The very early SLK 200 was na .
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Hey Chevytriker,
You're logic makes perfect sense... especially about the cloth pleasing the gf! A happy gf helps to make a happy man!

you're right, too, it's still plenty fast. I'm not too familiar with the 200, as it's not around over here in the states. I don't think there was an option for non-leather on the 230's or 320's here? So 200 seems like it's the way to go! It does look really really nice.
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Cheers pdubq, thanks for the reassurance.

Whatever I buy, there will always be a better one out there somewhere. And if you do happen to end up with the best one, you end up too scared to use it just in case it gets a mark on it. I want something I can use and not worry about too much.

Going over tomorrow to seal the deal
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330426497555&ssPageNam e=STRK:MEWAX:IT

For sale over in Stratford (UK). I've been to see it and can add the following

FSH, all except the last one with MB main dealers
Rust round wheel arches, being repaired by seller
Comes with 12 month MOT, 6 months tax, 3 months warrenty
Interior of hood is clean, no visible hydraulic leaks in the boot
Trim is a bit worn in places but other than that, the general condition of it is very good indeed.

I've been through the lists on here and will give it a thorough checking over before making a final decision on it.



Has anyone 'in the know' seen it? What do you recon on the price? It's up for £5,995 - a hell of a lot of car for the money, but with no aircon etc it's low on extra's. Seems about right, give or take a couple of £100, for a dealer car.

Another thing, I fiddled with the seat but, at 6ft my head is just brushing the roof - is there another adjustment I'm missing? (other than to put the top down)

Ta.
Price is ok... I tried to advise the other young buck on here ... I'd start at 5 k for that motor- settle at sround £5,400-500
I thought AC was standard..? If the seats are electric, two switches, then you simply push the switch down- its like a cursor.
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Interesting standing 1/4 time. By way of comparison I achieved a standing 1/4 of 111mph in 12.7 seconds at North Weald 'run what you brung' last May on my modified Triumph Thruxton. I may have been a few 10ths and a few mph quicker had I shortened the gearing to stock.

Very cool ride! I 've always wanted an 850 Commando interstate myself..
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JustinJoyit - A/C standard? not in the 200's I don't think, though it may have been in the 230's. Same with electric seats, good old manual in this car.
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JustinJoyit - A/C standard? not in the 200's I don't think, though it may have been in the 230's. Same with electric seats, good old manual in this car.
Ok. Well I fail to fathom how you're interested in this car when you can have at least a 230k for the same money. Might not be black, but you def can. You can offset the group 17 insurance with the pleasure you'll get from it. I actually got my 320 for less than the sticker price on this...

My advice: Change your mind, someone died in the family and you've got to go to a funeral in Uzbekistan..get your deposit back. Keep looking. To be honest your buying at the peak of the market= just before summer. With cars the heart can rule the head, fair enough but but try to take a moment and listen to what we're saying. The dealer has you over a barrel- leaving a deposit is like a tacit agreement to pay the sticker price- unless ou negoiated first, which you did not...

No A/C, No Leather? No electric seats? 2 litre.. Nearly 6k...? Hmm.. theres something wrong here...
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Ok. Well I fail to fathom how you're interested in this car when you can have at least a 230k for the same money. Might not be black, but you def can. You can offset the group 17 insurance with the pleasure you'll get from it. I actually got my 320 for less than the sticker price on this...

My advice: Change your mind, someone died in the family and you've got to go to a funeral in Uzbekistan..get your deposit back. Keep looking. To be honest your buying at the peak of the market= just before summer. With cars the heart can rule the head, fair enough but but try to take a moment and listen to what we're saying. The dealer has you over a barrel- leaving a deposit is like a tacit agreement to pay the sticker price- unless ou negoiated first, which you did not...

No A/C, No Leather? No electric seats? 2 litre.. Nearly 6k...? Hmm.. theres something wrong here...

I know I asked for opinions, but I'm starting to feel a bit defensive here. I'm interested in this car because it is on my doorstep. I could have more for less. I could equally have less for more. Whatever car I get there will be hidden issues, bound to be. On this occasion, I'm not interested in dragging my partner across the country looking at 10 other cars, at considerable cost in fuel to save the same amount on purchase price. I want a black one, without the red interior so that narrows it down a bit. I want a warranty, 12 months MOT and a bit of tax. That narrows it down further. I don't want a show vehicle, just something for fun. I'd sooner have a black 200 than a silver 230 / 320, just personal preference. I know I'm buying at the worst possible time of year and that leaving a deposit wasn't clever, and I may well end up paying over the odds (but looking at various other small ads, not by much)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220608030249&ssPageNam e=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Same price, with all the spec you say. However - auto (g/f wants manual), leather (g/f wants fabric), rust showing (factor in, what, another £500 ish to the purchase price to sort?), 200 miles away.

So, it may cost £500 more to be sorted. If we are talking purely resale value, what will the difference be between that car and 'mine' in 4 years time? Much more than £500? I doubt it.

As for changing my mind - can't really do that. 'Fraid I've got scruples (expensive I know), and I really can't lie convincingly. Besides, what's to say he'd even give me the deposit back, under any circumstances? Thanks for your input. Like I've already put on the forum, whatever you end up with, there is always a better option out there. I suppose I've really got the answers I expected - don't touch it with a barge pole.
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I want a black one, without the red interior so that narrows it down a bit.
+1 on that. Black looks cool, and according to my son, a bit less girly than the hoards of silver cars out there. My must have (apart from the V6 motor and auto) was the cream and black leather. I would not have bought one without it. The trouble with black is I am constantly cleaning it, but it is worth the effort.

I hope you enjoy your new car as much as I am enjoying mine.
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I know I asked for opinions, but I'm starting to feel a bit defensive here. I'm interested in this car because it is on my doorstep. I could have more for less. I could equally have less for more. Whatever car I get there will be hidden issues, bound to be. On this occasion, I'm not interested in dragging my partner across the country looking at 10 other cars, at considerable cost in fuel to save the same amount on purchase price. I want a black one, without the red interior so that narrows it down a bit. I want a warranty, 12 months MOT and a bit of tax. That narrows it down further. I don't want a show vehicle, just something for fun. I'd sooner have a black 200 than a silver 230 / 320, just personal preference. I know I'm buying at the worst possible time of year and that leaving a deposit wasn't clever, and I may well end up paying over the odds (but looking at various other small ads, not by much)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220608030249&ssPageNam e=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Same price, with all the spec you say. However - auto (g/f wants manual), leather (g/f wants fabric), rust showing (factor in, what, another £500 ish to the purchase price to sort?), 200 miles away.

So, it may cost £500 more to be sorted. If we are talking purely resale value, what will the difference be between that car and 'mine' in 4 years time? Much more than £500? I doubt it.

As for changing my mind - can't really do that. 'Fraid I've got scruples (expensive I know), and I really can't lie convincingly. Besides, what's to say he'd even give me the deposit back, under any circumstances? Thanks for your input. Like I've already put on the forum, whatever you end up with, there is always a better option out there. I suppose I've really got the answers I expected - don't touch it with a barge pole.
There will always something better out there, human nature im afraid.
Think what people are saying is that an slk is a bit special, different, touch of luxury so you would expect all the toys like leather etc, and power is not all about top speed or 0 to 60, its about driving pleasure, effortless etc, bet you dont have a 50cc 2 stroke in your trike.
Your hard earned cash, its your gf's right to spend it and being local, dealer warranty etc is certainly a bonus, go for it, enjoy it, you can always trade up to a fuller spec car in time, just go get the best deal you can
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Bought it. Paid less than I was prepared to, and more than some other more savvy buyers probably would have done, but do you know what.... I don't care. Don't care about its lack of toys, or its potential trade in value 5 years down the line, or having to waste all that time changing gear for myself. What a car, what a laugh, and just enough fettling to do to keep me busy for a while. First job is a service so expect more posts for advice along the way as I discover the truth that lies beneath the shiny exterior.
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Oh no, I'm all for equality mate, she has a job of her own.
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