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Pistonheads SLC43 Review

Has this been posted here before? I just came across it.
Mercedes-AMG SLC43: Review | PistonHeads
Interesting review and interesting comments in the PHers Forum.
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What AMG should have done was sneak the 510hp 4.0-litre V8 twin-turbo under the bonnet.
I agree with that!
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I think it's coming VERY soon. I'm so confident it's coming soon I've cancelled my order on an SLC43.

Why do I think it's coming soon? There is nothing concrete I can put my finger on, but the GLC has just got its 63 update and the SLC range needs a proper halo model.

Yes, the SLC43 is VERY fast, but it's stuck in a no-mans land between the Arch-rival TT models - TTS and TTRS. The new TTRS in particular just minces the 43 despite being only 3000 more based on list pricing. So the 43 either needs a major price cut or a power upgrade. The 43 engine will easily remap to 445PS so you can bet the REAL tuners at AMG could make something 450PS and reliable. That could be renamed SLC63 or they could drop the V8 twin turbo in there, or even the old 5.5l V8 which obviously fits because it's an R172 SLK with a new nose and tail.

Mercedes needs to do something. Normally, I wouldn't be so negative but apparently sales of SLCs have absolutely collapsed, even with anything up to 33% discounts against list. There is a choice of 250d on Drive the Deal at the moment, all in standard black or white, but the AMG model with heated seats and Airscarf and they're 11000 off list. Those are desperate sales tactics.
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It's the last signs of life. SLK/SLC will be over in two years time. No way there is going to be a proper 63. The 55 had such a low sales number they cann't justify making an even more bad ass SLK/C. Now you've cancelled the 43 its time to look at the F-type ...
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It's the last signs of life. SLK/SLC will be over in two years time. No way there is going to be a proper 63. The 55 had such a low sales number they cann't justify making an even more bad ass SLK/C. Now you've cancelled the 43 its time to look at the F-type ...

Surely you don't mean the overpriced convertible 'F' Type with the most stupid smallest boot in the history of the motor car.
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Mercedes needs to do something. Normally, I wouldn't be so negative but apparently sales of SLCs have absolutely collapsed, even with anything up to 33% discounts against list. There is a choice of 250d on Drive the Deal at the moment, all in standard black or white, but the AMG model with heated seats and Airscarf and they're 11000 off list. Those are desperate sales tactics.
Aha we meet again wja96 & the subject of SLC's at dealers & am heartened you agree with my findings.
Am at my dealer next week as it's service time & to discuss on-going issue arising out of alloy wheel paint/lacquer de-lamination. Will check if the white basic discounted 30k 200 SLC spotted last week has sold yet, one of 2 actually. Given the pending tax rise I would expect them to have been sold. The 2 diesels one in that dreary dark blue are elsewhere doing the rounds of 4 other branches of the dealership.
At present there are too few differences to tempt me towards a SLC, in fact I suspect my current SLK may well be a keeper unless I experience a return to immobility issues that once forced me into something more practical but still a convertible.
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It's the last signs of life. SLK/SLC will be over in two years time. No way there is going to be a proper 63. The 55 had such a low sales number they cann't justify making an even more bad ass SLK/C. Now you've cancelled the 43 its time to look at the F-type ...
No, no F-type for me. We still have the red 55 until August and I really can't say anything but I am REALLY sure there will be a V8 SLC model in the near future. Even if it comes from Bottrop rather than from Affalterbach.

If it's not what I want then I'm still a member of the TT Owners Club. And the TTRS is a MONSTER.
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guys, I'm sure we can find a way to stuff a V8 in it!

just pick your poison, I'll get the welder ready
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guys, I'm sure we can find a way to stuff a V8 in it!

just pick your poison, I'll get the welder ready
I'd go bigger myself... AMG does make some nice engines for Pagani!
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Surely you don't mean the overpriced convertible 'F' Type with the most stupid smallest boot in the history of the motor car.
Yep, that's exactly what I mean. With the big V8 in the front naturally. And obviously you don't buy something like that new. The market is full of used low milage convertible V8's (at least in Germany).

Agreed the that the boot is an error, so is the soft-top, but the fun you'll get from this baby!
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No, no F-type for me. We still have the red 55 until August and I really can't say anything but I am REALLY sure there will be a V8 SLC model in the near future. Even if it comes from Bottrop rather than from Affalterbach.

If it's not what I want then I'm still a member of the TT Owners Club. And the TTRS is a MONSTER.
Ahh, you're playing the Bottrop card. Yes, agree, if that's the path there can be anything. I would LOVE the M157 in my SLK.

TT: not my taste in looks, still a soft top.
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Ahh, you're playing the Bottrop card. Yes, agree, if that's the path there can be anything. I would LOVE the M157 in my SLK.

TT: not my taste in looks, still a soft top.
I KNOW they have a V8 SLC in Bottrop. Whether its a factory prototype or something they built themselves I don't know.

I don't know anything other than they were VERY strongly suggesting that I should not buy an SLC43.
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Maybe we can do a group buy?
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Interesting comparison & AMG 55 history from PH -- When We go to the AMG Factory in Stuttgart in June...
https://www.slkworld.com/united-kingd...ne-2017-a.html
We can ask some "covert" questions about whether to cancel our SLC 43 orders:
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On the subject of reviews I enjoy the numerous reviews on YouTube from all around the world even if some are a bit amateur in their production.
What interests me is that almost every model reviewed especially in the USA has ALL the options yet in the UK dealers have in stock models with maybe (essential) couple of options like Command & Airscarf & if you're lucky something else electric folding mirrors. Worse is that most are the smallest petrol engine versions probably because we are a tiny country, don't really need big engines & women like them as a posh little run-about.
So I guess the only way to have everything is to place a special order, pay a silly price & cringe at the depreciation.
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On the subject of reviews I enjoy the numerous reviews on YouTube from all around the world even if some are a bit amateur in their production.
What interests me is that almost every model reviewed especially in the USA has ALL the options yet in the UK dealers have in stock models with maybe (essential) couple of options like Command & Airscarf & if you're lucky something else electric folding mirrors. Worse is that most are the smallest petrol engine versions probably because we are a tiny country, don't really need big engines & women like them as a posh little run-about.
So I guess the only way to have everything is to place a special order, pay a silly price & cringe at the depreciation.
I disagree about the equipment levels. There are plenty of US based Owners on here asking about Halogen bulb replacements and how they can get the navigation option added. Do bear in mind that anything imported into the USA is significantly more expensive than anything made locally. They have eye-watering import duties.

That makes Mercedes a very expensive proposition but luckily it's a bigger place so even if the proportion of people who can afford them is the same as say, the UK, there a more physical units sold because there are just more people. And if you're buying a VERY expensive car (an SLC43 is a 60,000 car. In the USA) you're probably going to spend the extra and get all the options added.

Over here, most new cars are company car purchases so that means leased, which means no options because lease prices are set on depreciation and you have to depreciate 100% of the options in the lease term, which means a huge increase just to add something that's a minor benefit for most folks like COMAND.

ALL the press review cars are LOADED with every option. So the real reviews feature the options.
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Cheap leasing deals on SLC are coming back, not as good as on SLK before but quite close. That could be sign that nothing is selling. But base Audi TT is even cheaper to lease.

I hope there won't be SLC V8 because then value of SLK55 will go down quickly. I bought it based on the assumption it's last V8 in this model.
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So has anyone seen the figures for Total SLC sales and also the last year of SLK?
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Unfortunately, the list of un-replaced convertibles is growing quickly in the last few years,
Sebring, Viper, Lexus, Megane, Focus, Peurgeot 307, 207, Eos, MR2, Tigra, Astra TT, and earlier, , Alfa Spider, MG, XLR, G6, Citoen Pluriel, Elan.TVR.

Toyota shares with BMW for a new one, Mazda shares with FIAT.

It's seems to be only the
exotics, like Lamborghini, Ferarri, Maserati, McLaren
Super luxury small volume like Rolls and Bentley
And the Germans of M-B, BMW & VW who can stick it out.
These three groups are seeing growth, the ones at the top aren't.

When the outlook is not optimistic, car companies drop convertibles.

In light of the continued swing to lifestyle cars, SUV, high roof hatches, wagons, and away from personal fun cars, like 2seat, 2door convertibles, the case for a big engined small convertible is getting harder for product planners to produce a profitable business case for.

And yet M-B seem to be sticking a big V-8 in almost every thing in the range.

Why then no SLC63 ?
It could be a matter of timing, the need to line up the new engines, with the all-new models, as they (engines) are reported to need the new electronic architecture only possible in the new generation platforms. And why stick soon to be obsolete engines into a very small volume application for just a couple of years?

I am stunned to read the new M-B engines are 15% more efficient again. Is there no end to improvement to the internal combustion engine.?

Ironic that In this decade, as it finally can perform so well, the IC engine is destined to be overtaken by electric cars, that lay in wait for a time soon when low cost storage creates a stampede to electric vehicles. Just look at what is happening in Norway.

As for the SLC43, yeah, I'd really enjoy one, now can I get crowd funding for it.............
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And yet M-B seem to be sticking a big V-8 in almost every thing in the range.

Why then no SLC63 ?
Easy: it would hurt SL sales. The SL owner wouldn't be too happy with the smaller SLK/C outperforming him and the profit on the SL is bigger than on the SLK/C. So easy decision; no competition from a bad ass SLK/C!

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It could be a matter of timing, the need to line up the new engines, with the all-new models, as they (engines) are reported to need the new electronic architecture only possible in the new generation platforms. And why stick soon to be obsolete engines into a very small volume application for just a couple of years?

I am stunned to read the new M-B engines are 15% more efficient again. Is there no end to improvement to the internal combustion engine.?
These are factory figures. No review or test will ever match these numbers, 'somehow' they alwasy turn out much worse. And they only put extra effort in emissions and consumption because of regulations, not because they like to. USA-CA is pretty much in the lead on emissions but they'll get competition from Norway where electrics are promoted with cheaper tax rates.

In NL Tesla is only a success as a company car because there are a couple of tax benefits to be had. If these weren't in place hardly any Tesla would be sold, way to expensive. But everyone knows how taxes work. When the majority of people move towards electric cars the current regulation will become to expensive. Governments don't like losing income so it's a matter of time until the new kid on the block will be taxed just as heavy as our normal rides are now.

I wish governments would stop taxing everything we do or see and just calculate how much they need for a period and send all inhabitants a monthly bill. Just the sheer costs of keeping these old tax systems in place could lower the bill.
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