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Just had my first detailed look around an SLC at the UK Mercedes World emporium. LOVE how the rear side windows can be raised with the front ones (I'm convinced Mercedes know how to do this on the R172) & the interior look & textures feel even better. The diesel model I was examining had the gloss black console & door trim which surprisingly give the all black interior did not lookover-gloomy.
Thankfully the grille lacked the flashy tarty chrome blobs but the extra lower mouldings & chrome strip looked clumsy & an affectation.
Nearly 48k & more if it was a proper petrol sporting (NOT sports) car is silly money given that SLKs are poor performers in the depreciation stakes.
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Just had my first detailed look around an SLC at the UK Mercedes World emporium. LOVE how the rear side windows can be raised with the front ones (I'm convinced Mercedes know how to do this on the R172) & the interior look & textures feel even better. The diesel model I was examining had the gloss black console & door trim which surprisingly give the all black interior did not lookover-gloomy.
Thankfully the grille lacked the flashy tarty chrome blobs but the extra lower mouldings & chrome strip looked clumsy & an affectation.
Nearly 48k & more if it was a proper petrol sporting (NOT sports) car is silly money given that SLKs are poor performers in the depreciation stakes.
I very much doubt anyone is paying list for an SLC, diesel or not. If you opt for the Designo colours or trim then yes, you can very quickly ramp up the cost incredibly quickly, but the base cars are well equipped and nothing like 48,000.

Drive the deal shows a discount of 6000 available on a 52,000 (every non-Designo option ticked) SLC43 so 46,000 for the absolute top of the range. That doesn't seem so bad. And no, I don't think I could stomach the depreciation on any SLK, which is why I lease, but if you think the SLK is bad, try an E-class, BMW 5-Series or Audi A6 saloon for depreciation! I've seen residuals as low as 25% of list at 3 years quoted. So some owners are losing 12,000 per year or more. Truly scary.
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At the other end of the scale (for the ordinary punters), carwow are quoting 24,587 for a bum basic (no options at all) SLC 200 sport with manual transmission.. that's 5,908 off RRP. Not too bad an entry price point, considering you're getting a quality motor with a beautifully executed folding tin top.

The new A*** TT roadster is a great looking car with a stunning interior, a base model 1.8 petrol, again with manual transmission (similar to the SLC) is coming in at 24,668 and I'd probably choose that over the SLC if it wasn't for the canvas roof.

The only fly in the ointment for the SLC is that I really love the Fire Opal Red colour but but after the issues with my current car I'm loath to go down that route again. It's been repaired beautifully and I can't find fault with it, and yet.. and yet.. I still somehow dissatisfied with it now.
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SLKs depreciate like a falling brick... I bought my 14 month old, 9000 mile 350 for 26k... I priced a new model with the same options at just under 50k... so probably bought for around 45k, so that's 1350 a month depreciation. You have been warned!

ETA - and that doesn't take into account that whoever traded it in presumably received (a lot?) less than 26k for it...
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At the other end of the scale (for the ordinary punters), carwow are quoting 24,587 for a bum basic (no options at all) SLC 200 sport with manual transmission.. that's 5,908 off RRP. Not too bad an entry price point, considering you're getting a quality motor with a beautifully executed folding tin top.

The new A*** TT roadster is a great looking car with a stunning interior, a base model 1.8 petrol, again with manual transmission (similar to the SLC) is coming in at 24,668 and I'd probably choose that over the SLC if it wasn't for the canvas roof.

The only fly in the ointment for the SLC is that I really love the Fire Opal Red colour but but after the issues with my current car I'm loath to go down that route again. It's been repaired beautifully and I can't find fault with it, and yet.. and yet.. I still somehow dissatisfied with it now.
Fire Opal is THE colour for the SLK/C. Don't be put off. Yes, yours was one of the affected ones, and they looked after you. And do appear to have fixed the issue now.

And even a bum-basic one is pretty well knitted out really, although I'd hate not to have the leather interior.
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Fire Opal is THE colour for the SLK/C. Don't be put off. Yes, yours was one of the affected ones, and they looked after you. And do appear to have fixed the issue now.

And even a bum-basic one is pretty well knitted out really, although I'd hate not to have the leather interior.
When I originally bought Otto I intended to keep him for a loooong time and so I didn't see depreciation as much of an issue...Yep, the paint issue is fixed, credit to MB for doing right by me but it is still a big part of the reason for me wanting to change and if I do, I would want to keep the replacement for a long time also.

I must be a bit mental, but I'm one of the weirdos who actually wanted a cloth interior.. I quite liked the style of them and I've been less than impressed by my previous experiences with leather and half leather seats (albeit on other marques) and thought the cloth might be more durable. It meant I has to pass on the possibility of airscarf which I think in retrospect might've been quite nice.

I really liked the look the SLC in the the dealership today and am really tempted by the "AMG Line" trim level this time, complete with airscarf.

Am I right in thinking that the "leather" is not "real leather" unless you specify the "nappa leather" option?
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Snap, crackle, pop, spit, burble. It really does sound pretty great!
Ya for a v6. I always liked the raw v8 power & sound like my Mustang. The quicker revs from a lighter v6 power plant properly tuned is more fun to drive to me. I have made some sacrifice to sound for performance. Not really a fan of the turbo crack and pops because it reminds me of all the lil rice burners belting around town. The SLC is pretty cool though because you have the switchable exhaust option giving it a deeper tone which I prefer. I thought about moddin up my 2012 SLK 350 with Vici Milano or Piecha exhaust but I have decided to wait till the SLC comes out so I can drive it. As I see it now, the SLC has everything I want: Power, performance, sound, style, and good price point! I am happy with my SLK 350 although it is lacking a lil on sound and power. I had driven the 55 b4 I made purchase decision and opted for the 350 because IMO the 55 was not up to par for the price (extra $10k for better power and sound, plus the cost of the "Hand Built" AMG engines (costly repairs).
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Ya for a v6. I always liked the raw v8 power & sound like my Mustang. The quicker revs from a lighter v6 power plant properly tuned is more fun to drive to me. I have made some sacrifice to sound for performance. Not really a fan of the turbo crack and pops because it reminds me of all the lil rice burners belting around town. The SLC is pretty cool though because you have the switchable exhaust option giving it a deeper tone which I prefer. I thought about moddin up my 2012 SLK 350 with Vici Milano or Piecha exhaust but I have decided to wait till the SLC comes out so I can drive it. As I see it now, the SLC has everything I want: Power, performance, sound, style, and good price point! I am happy with my SLK 350 although it is lacking a lil on sound and power. I had driven the 55 b4 I made purchase decision and opted for the 350 because IMO the 55 was not up to par for the price (extra $10k for better power and sound, plus the cost of the "Hand Built" AMG engines (costly repairs).
I agree, one of the key strengths for the SLC43 for me is that you don't have to have it as 100% ANIMAL as the SLK55 if you don't want it to be. The quiet exhaust option is nice and quiet on the motorway but if you want to frighten old ladies with a lift-off turbo bang then you can, and it has a burble that is pleasant. It's not as nice a sound as the V8 in the 55 for me, and I'll take that compromise to get a bit of peace and quiet when I'm going a long way and the V8 noise starts to wear a bit.

For short journeys the V8 is amazing, but I would always take the CDi over any petrol for high-speed motorway work because it so much quieter at high speed.

I'm really looking forward to the SLC43 in our garage. Roll on August 2017!
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I agree, one of the key strengths for the SLC43 for me is that you don't have to have it as 100% ANIMAL as the SLK55 if you don't want it to be. The quiet exhaust option is nice and quiet on the motorway but if you want to frighten old ladies with a lift-off turbo bang then you can, and it has a burble that is pleasant. It's not as nice a sound as the V8 in the 55 for me, and I'll take that compromise to get a bit of peace and quiet when I'm going a long way and the V8 noise starts to wear a bit.

For short journeys the V8 is amazing, but I would always take the CDi over any petrol for high-speed motorway work because it so much quieter at high speed.

I'm really looking forward to the SLC43 in our garage. Roll on August 2017!
Well I have to slightly disagree in regards to the sound; shutting off 4 cylinders as you know, depletes the exhaust sound quite significantly. I have been driving mine this week mainly on 4 cylinders as most of the drive to work is highway...sweet as a nut and knowing full well the power and noise is available when you want it.

I am very interested to hear the results of those heading for a test drive in the SLC 43 that are current 55 owners and how many end up trading in the very economical V8, for the bi-turbo V6.
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Well I have to slightly disagree in regards to the sound; shutting off 4 cylinders as you know, depletes the exhaust sound quite significantly. I have been driving mine this week mainly on 4 cylinders as most of the drive to work is highway...sweet as a nut and knowing full well the power and noise is available when you want it.

I am very interested to hear the results of those heading for a test drive in the SLC 43 that are current 55 owners and how many end up trading in the very economical V8, for the bi-turbo V6.
I have driven the SLC43 and the same engine in the GLC43 which I have ordered to replace my beloved A6 allroad.

Yes, the 55 can be quieter, but the 43 can be very quiet in Comfort mode. The new menu system makes it easy to customise the car for different environments. I do about 700 miles per week and I can live with the CDi on the motorway all day long because it's VERY quiet on the motorway. You can use the phone and listen to the stereo without deafening yourself. The 55 is significantly noisier in all exhaust and cylinder shut-off modes and I end up much more tired getting out of the 55 at the end of any journey.

I think the bottom line is that the 43 is a better overall car given the chassis improvements, flexibility in terms of refinement and (for me) more usable power but the AMG 55 will never be surpassed as a visceral, almost frightening, driving experience. The engine is simply stupendous, and that's enough for some.
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Well I have to slightly disagree in regards to the sound; shutting off 4 cylinders as you know, depletes the exhaust sound quite significantly. I have been driving mine this week mainly on 4 cylinders as most of the drive to work is highway...sweet as a nut and knowing full well the power and noise is available when you want it.

I am very interested to hear the results of those heading for a test drive in the SLC 43 that are current 55 owners and how many end up trading in the very economical V8, for the bi-turbo V6.
If I had a 55, I would. I mean I took the 350 over the 55 and I would definitely trade my 350 for the 43. I just really like the setup without the extra weight, cost, and good gas mileage . It is like a compromise between the 350 and 55, which is where I kind of am. They both have their pros and cons. I'll bet the hard core 55 owners that are so set on the "hand built philosophy" will have nothing to do with it just because. But for the 55 owners that do not place emphasis on that, I would bet a good percentage will go for 43.
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I have driven the SLC43 and the same engine in the GLC43 which I have ordered to replace my beloved A6 allroad.

Yes, the 55 can be quieter, but the 43 can be very quiet in Comfort mode. The new menu system makes it easy to customise the car for different environments. I do about 700 miles per week and I can live with the CDi on the motorway all day long because it's VERY quiet on the motorway. You can use the phone and listen to the stereo without deafening yourself. The 55 is significantly noisier in all exhaust and cylinder shut-off modes and I end up much more tired getting out of the 55 at the end of any journey.

I think the bottom line is that the 43 is a better overall car given the chassis improvements, flexibility in terms of refinement and (for me) more usable power but the AMG 55 will never be surpassed as a visceral, almost frightening, driving experience. The engine is simply stupendous, and that's enough for some.
Coming from raw 400+ HP vehicles, I found nothing impressive about the 55 other than it was a niche vehicle made by Mercedes to appeal to all the performance oriented customers. It is a muscle car with style and functionality, but is no more powerful than any other muscle car. I will say that Mercedes gives you more performance straight out the box than any other manufacturer and that is what I like about Mercedes. I drove the 55 and my Mustang was way more scary, power wise, but the Mustang was no where near up to par with the quality, overall performance, and style (even compared to my 350).
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Coming from raw 400+ HP vehicles, I found nothing impressive about the 55 other than it was a niche vehicle made by Mercedes to appeal to all the performance oriented customers. It is a muscle car with style and functionality, but is no more powerful than any other muscle car. I will say that Mercedes gives you more performance straight out the box than any other manufacturer and that is what I like about Mercedes. I drove the 55 and my Mustang was way more scary, power wise, but the Mustang was no where near up to par with the quality, overall performance, and style (even compared to my 350).
The 55 is by far the most powerful RWD car I've ever driven and before I got it I had several test drives in a variety of weather conditions. Mercedes Norwich even cancelled a test drive because it was icy that day. So to me it's a scary monster. If you've had scarier (more power, less sophisticated suspension, no traction control) then I take my hat off to you! Respect!
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Coming from raw 400+ HP vehicles, I found nothing impressive about the 55 other than it was a niche vehicle made by Mercedes to appeal to all the performance oriented customers. It is a muscle car with style and functionality, but is no more powerful than any other muscle car. I will say that Mercedes gives you more performance straight out the box than any other manufacturer and that is what I like about Mercedes. I drove the 55 and my Mustang was way more scary, power wise, but the Mustang was no where near up to par with the quality, overall performance, and style (even compared to my 350).
I like the sound of the Mustang GT and so many North American V8's, GM, Dodge and even Ford make some very good engines but fall off in the 'quality' department with the materials they use in order to keep the costs down. But IMO MB could have made the SLC43 at least 400hp with the V6 bi-turbo engine being used in the build; I think had they had done that they might have perked a bit more interest from the current crop of 55 owners.

It would not surprise me that more HP that will be offered in the next year or so or when they change the chassis.....a SLC43s perhaps to fit in with the C63s?
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The 55 is by far the most powerful RWD car I've ever driven and before I got it I had several test drives in a variety of weather conditions. Mercedes Norwich even cancelled a test drive because it was icy that day. So to me it's a scary monster. If you've had scarier (more power, less sophisticated suspension, no traction control) then I take my hat off to you! Respect!
Ya power without sophistication and control is deadly. I have seen more kids buying, totaling, and killing bystanders in these newer higher horsepower American cars with no control or suspension to match. I think that is why I was not intimidated by the 55 because it was more controlled, prob should of turned off the trac control
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I like the sound of the Mustang GT and so many North American V8's, GM, Dodge and even Ford make some very good engines but fall off in the 'quality' department with the materials they use in order to keep the costs down. But IMO MB could have made the SLC43 at least 400hp with the V6 bi-turbo engine being used in the build; I think had they had done that they might have perked a bit more interest from the current crop of 55 owners.

It would not surprise me that more HP that will be offered in the next year or so or when they change the chassis.....a SLC43s perhaps to fit in with the C63s?

Dead on brother, their quality is the worse. Over %60 of Ford's parts are made in China. Disappointing seeing how I have owned mine for over 16 years even though I never had any major issues and put over 150,000 miles on it. If I was to own American again, it would be Ford because their quality IMO is better than all the others. That said, NONE of them will EVER compare to Mercedes quality. In fact I have seen more American car manufacturers copy Mercedes engineering (that they have had out for years) and act like they are just so innovative, smh. I can't believe that I was sooooo blind all these years and was missing out on RTR
out of the box performance quality from Mercedes. Wasted so much money on aftermarket bs trying to get poor quality up to par instead. I tell you, I love this car so much it will be my last unless I trade for 43SLC.
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