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Remember me? My Renntech Supercharger journey is long!

Last year I picked up an '07 SLK55 with intentions of driving it a few months and moving on to something else. Life is short, and I feel the need to own as many cars as I can while I'm alive and kicking. Well, I went against my initial intention and decided to modify the SLK to drag race for the 2018 season.

Anyway, I started out by buying new headers and a used Renntech supercharger and intercooler from Liran Machlouf, aka "sick430" over on MBworld. He told me the kit was complete, worked perfectly, the whole nine yards. Due to his decent reputation over on MBWorld I bought the kit and he shipped it out promptly. The kit looked fine and I started preparing it for the installation, until the realization hit that I didn't want to do this outdoors during winter. At this time I had a couple projects taking up both spaces in my garage, so I decided to just farm out the basic install to a reputable guy I've worked with in the past.

Well, the kit turned out to be everything but complete and fully functional. What should have been a quick 2 week install turned into a long drawn out process due to it being incomplete. First of all the fuel rail had to be custom fabricated, which took time and a good bit of money. Also, there were a few other parts that were missing and not really called out in the installation instructions, but luckily Renntech was amazing at helping Anthony Lawshee (owner of Race IQ Performance) through the install. After everything was worked out, sourced, and eventually installed, we discovered the intercooler had a severe internal leak, which emptied the separated intercooler reservoir in an hour or less of driving.

Due to the bad intercooler, it wasn't safe for the tuner to dyno tune the car, and I was forced to drive to Atlanta and tow the car home. I was quoted $1,700 to replace the intercooler, but decided to remove it and inspect for any obvious damage. I was very fortunate that Renntech (Patrick Casey) offered to inspect and rebuild it for me as a less expensive option, which of course I was quick to accept. I shipped it to them for testing, and fortunately they were able to rebuild it for much less than the replacement cost. I should have it back next week, and at that point I'll reinstall and drive it down to Atlanta for tuning.

The video below is with the headers and supercharger before I dismantled to ship the intercooler to Renntech. I really can't emphasize enough how critical Patrick Casey at Renntech was in making this come together as smoothly as it did. He really went out of his way to help us through the install even though there was no financial motivation on his part. Most big companies would have have been slow to respond and told us to pound sand at some point, but Patrick was there every step of the way. Great guy and a great company to work with.

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I am definitely curious how yours turns out! I have a Kleemann car now and they are overstating the HP pretty badly. Once I get a tuner I feel comfortable with I will be looking to put a smaller pulley on and get some more boost. It is definitely fun the way it is though!
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Finally starting to do a little testing on the SLK. It's running a little rich, but it's making boost and power. First gear is useless, so here's a 2nd gear pull with me lightly rolling into the throttle to get some traction. Also, that 3rd to 4th shift delay was me letting off the throttle and short shifting into 5th. Not the cars fault.

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That Renntech seems strong! Any idea how much boost you are running? The boost gauge seems off in the video.
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Finally starting to do a little testing on the SLK. It's running a little rich, but it's making boost and power. First gear is useless, so here's a 2nd gear pull with me lightly rolling into the throttle to get some traction. Also, that 3rd to 4th shift delay was me letting off the throttle and short shifting into 5th. Not the cars fault.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVX2...ature=youtu.be

Something is weird/off ... video starts with it showing 2 for 2nd gear, but it red-lines at under 40mph like 1st gear. Is that somehow tire spin causing the revs to go to red-line super early? I've never seen my car do anything like that, although I have a LSD and run high quality tires (currently on Pilot Sport 4S).
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That Renntech seems strong! Any idea how much boost you are running? The boost gauge seems off in the video.

The boost gauge is the top left gauge ... I can't see the needle. Did the light on the needle go out?


I assume the other gauge is an a/f gauge. It is rich for much of it, but it also is super lean after he first gets into it.
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The boost gauge is the top left gauge ... I can't see the needle. Did the light on the needle go out?


I assume the other gauge is an a/f gauge. It is rich for much of it, but it also is super lean after he first gets into it.
I blew it up and watched it close, you can see it block the tick marks at times. I don't think it ever got to boost (on the gauge), but obviously he is running boost as that was much faster than a stock 55. I am starting to feel your pain on the tire spin. It was in the 60's here this morning and I spun all the way through 1st and into 2nd.
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As for the transmission gear to speed, I think it looks normal until I short-shifted into 4th and 5th quickly at the end.

The speed sensor is in a front wheel, so it doesn't reflect tire spin. I started out in 2nd, blew the tires off and red line (car was only moving around 45 MPH but the rear tires were doing close to 55 MPH which is around where 2nd gear red lines). I shifted into 3rd, and the car was still spinning until around 60-65 mph when I shifted into 4th. The car red lines in 3rd around 80 MPH. As for the boost gauge, it's hard to see on video, but it's legible in person. I think it stays around 7 PSI on a short pull.

It's running too rich to beat on right now, so until I can get the revised tune loaded I won't be doing a lot more spirited driving. I'll report back when I have a BAP installed and the A/F sorted out.
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What tires are you running? I don't get nearly that much spin, but I do have an LSD and pretty good tires. I have been reading up some though and the Kleemann can drop to 3.5psi if there is a problem. I wonder if mine is doing that... Have you found a decent datalogger? I have done some searching and the Mygenius says it does it. I might go that route. One thing that makes me think I am not down on boost is logging on torque pro shows me just under atmospheric. I am assuming the ECU has a limit of 0 psi since it is normally NA so they tweak the map sensor so that at full boost it is just under atmospheric, which is where mine is. I hit -.16psi.
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What tires are you running? I don't get nearly that much spin, but I do have an LSD and pretty good tires. I have been reading up some though and the Kleemann can drop to 3.5psi if there is a problem. I wonder if mine is doing that... Have you found a decent datalogger? I have done some searching and the Mygenius says it does it. I might go that route. One thing that makes me think I am not down on boost is logging on torque pro shows me just under atmospheric. I am assuming the ECU has a limit of 0 psi since it is normally NA so they tweak the map sensor so that at full boost it is just under atmospheric, which is where mine is. I hit -.16psi.
I'm running some cheap Nankang's on the car due to being frugal and thinking I was just going to drive it for a few months. Now I'm going to have to buy tires a second time once I get everything sorted out. The tires really aren't that bad, but they aren't up to the task.

If you're looking to datalog I suggest you buy a Dashdaq. I'm running one, but it's not fully setup yet. I have it logging boost from the Map sensor with it thanks to it having a built in signal conditioner / offset calculator to give me correct readings. I'm also in the process of connecting it to my wideband using an analog cable from the wideband. Here's more info on the setup. In the past I believe it was Zeitronix that had the free program for viewing the datalogs. It's been a long time since I messed with it so I can't say for sure which one just yet. Give me a week or two and I'll have it working and show you some logs.

FWIW, I'm having issues getting Galletto 1260 to load revisions on my ECU, so it might be Spring before I have the SLK running right. I'm not in a hurry and it's a garage queen.
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Who is doing your tuning? Do you know if they are doing like I said and fudging the MAP values to stay below a threshold? The Dashdaq looks like a solid option, there are several that were made around that vintage, but honestly they are pretty outdated now. I am leaning towards the AEM AQ-1, but the only downside to that is you need a pc to interface it. Probably not an issue since I will usually be planning when I am going to analyze logs. It has a SD card so it will store a ton of data until you download it. I always carry a laptop with me too, except for weekends. No decisions yet, but will probably be my christmas present once I am sold on one.
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Are you running dual widebands? I am looking at this one here: https://www.innovatemotorsports.com/products/dlg1.php Pretty sweet setup and can be had for $315 including 2 sensors. Add a boost gauge and datalogger and I should be set. Should be about $900 total if I go with the AQ-1.
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Who is doing your tuning? Do you know if they are doing like I said and fudging the MAP values to stay below a threshold? The Dashdaq looks like a solid option, there are several that were made around that vintage, but honestly they are pretty outdated now. I am leaning towards the AEM AQ-1, but the only downside to that is you need a pc to interface it. Probably not an issue since I will usually be planning when I am going to analyze logs. It has a SD card so it will store a ton of data until you download it. I always carry a laptop with me too, except for weekends. No decisions yet, but will probably be my christmas present once I am sold on one.

Anthony at Race IQ Performance is tuning it. It's vintage but still the most solid option I've seen for the MB without burning money. Even the Jeep guys are using it for their new Track-hawks: https://www.highhorseperformance.com...zt2dashdaq.htm


Anyway, no need in overthinking it, as the Dashdaq is perfect for what's needed IMHO. It's a realtime display for the info you need to see daily without a laptop, plus with the touch of a finger you're datalogging to a SD card. Anyway, I'll have less than $400 in the Dashdaq and AF setup and I'll have realtime IAT's, boost, AF, etc on the display right in front of me automatically when I start the car every time. To each his own though I suppose.

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Are you running dual widebands? I am looking at this one here: https://www.innovatemotorsports.com/products/dlg1.php Pretty sweet setup and can be had for $315 including 2 sensors. Add a boost gauge and datalogger and I should be set. Should be about $900 total if I go with the AQ-1.

That's a pretty nice setup for the money. I've got two single Innovate setups myself, so I think I'm going to follow suit and run both on my Dashdaq. Post up some pics when you get it all worked out. Hit me up if you need a gauge pod built. I bought an extra when I built mine.
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Anthony at Race IQ Performance is tuning it. It's vintage but still the most solid option I've seen for the MB without burning money. Even the Jeep guys are using it for their new Track-hawks: https://www.highhorseperformance.com...zt2dashdaq.htm


Anyway, no need in overthinking it, as the Dashdaq is perfect for what's needed IMHO. It's a realtime display for the info you need to see daily without a laptop, plus with the touch of a finger you're datalogging to a SD card. Anyway, I'll have less than $400 in the Dashdaq and AF setup and I'll have realtime IAT's, boost, AF, etc on the display right in front of me automatically when I start the car every time. To each his own though I suppose.
Did you buy used or have some of the setup already? How are you getting it for $400? That is the main reason I was looking at the AQ-1 instead of the Dashdaq, because it is $430 vs $750. I may go with the wb02 setups as they are quite cheap and extremely good. They have a generic LED display I could put behind a tinted plastic and put it in the dash by the cigarette lighter and be totally hidden. I am still in the planning stages and open to all options. I want something that works good, looks great and is not big bucks. Where are you mounting the dashdaq? That is my other issue with it is trying to make it look decent.
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Anthony at Race IQ Performance is tuning it. It's vintage but still the most solid option I've seen for the MB without burning money. Even the Jeep guys are using it for their new Track-hawks: https://www.highhorseperformance.com...zt2dashdaq.htm
That is a good price, I wonder if they would do a Zt-4 with it for a little more so you can see both banks?
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I don't think it ever got to boost (on the gauge), but obviously he is running boost as that was much faster than a stock 55.

When I just watched the tach, I thought it must be crazy fast for it to be moving that quickly in 2nd, but the tach is misleading due to the tire spin. He started in 2nd so that's obviously not ideal, although it can help stop tire spin, but it took roughly 6 seconds to get to 60. I have no idea what a stock 55 would do to 60 starting in 2nd gear.

Notice it's really lean in the pic here too. I wouldn't be running anymore WOT either until it was tuned. I don't think we've seen anyone trap 120 but maybe once tuned it'll have a chance. Anthony, do you have headers also? With the 50 shot it likely will but I'm more curious what it'll run without it.


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When I just watched the tach, I thought it must be crazy fast for it to be moving that quickly in 2nd, but the tach is misleading due to the tire spin. He started in 2nd so that's obviously not ideal, although it can help stop tire spin, but it took roughly 6 seconds to get to 60. I have no idea what a stock 55 would do to 60 starting in 2nd gear.

Notice it's really lean in the pic here too. I wouldn't be running anymore WOT either until it was tuned. I don't think we've seen anyone trap 120 but maybe once tuned it'll have a chance. Anthony, do you have headers also? With the 50 shot it likely will but I'm more curious what it'll run without it.





It's got headers also and it's actually running too rich - not lean. A FI V8 should be around 11.5 to maybe 12.5 AF in open loop, so the 10.3 is getting pretty rich. It's even in the 9's briefly at times, and I'm a little concerned with washing down the cylinders. It's hard for oil to lubricate the rings when excess fuel is washing it away. And FWIW, running rich absolutely kills the power. It will make an easy 50HP more IMHO once it's leaned out. It's an absolute slug right now compared to what it will be. The video was meant for nothing more than a proof of concept to show the car functions with the SC.

I couldn't get the latest revision to load so I shipped the ECU to my tuner today and hope to get it back next week. I might take this time to install the BAP if I can find the motivation. I just finished installing lowering springs and injectors on my BMW and I'm getting a little burned out on wrenching this week.

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