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Kleemann ECU & Headers

I know there are a few threads regarding this mod, but I couldn't find any that reference one particular question:

Will changing out the ECU potentially cause any damage to the car's engine, shorten it's life?

I know ya don't just go throwing NO2 into just any engine unless ya wanna fry the cylinders, I was wondering if yer asking for trouble in any way by doing a Kleemann ECU mod.

I'm considering doing a Kleemann ECU & Headers upgrade... Hoping to go from 360hp to ≈415 hp.

Looks like there are multiple Kleemann header designs from which to choose... suggestions?

Any possible negative repercussions other than more attention from cops and subsequently more tickets?
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I got my Kleemann through my MB dealer in partnership with C2Designs that works with Kleemann.
The ecu is not changed out but reprogrammed. you can research what reprogramming 'changes' in the fuel mixture and governor removal and O2 cel not appearing plus the larger diameter of the headers getting the fumes out faster or our knowledgeable members will jump in .


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Ah, I didn't know it was a reprogramming.

I'm pretty sure the mods I listed are exactly what you have, have you experienced anything negative resulting?

Also,

Would you concur with the expected hp increase?

Would you personally suggest one of the header options in particular?


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if you read my thread (that rhymes) and saw my burnout thread here:

https://www.slkworld.com/slk-r171-gen...r-morning.html

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ecu tune
headers
downpipes
1st cat removed
straight pipes
resonator oem
2nd cat oem
mufflers oem
tips oem

Nothing negative to speak of. you heard the vids and/or saw them

i concur with the expected hp increase of about 55 hp.
I have not had it dynoed but I know I got what I paid for


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Yeah, I read that thread awhile back.
Very cool.



Curious, any particular header selection you'd recommend over the others?
Looks like Kleemann has options.

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I'm not sure there are multiple options available for the headers, aside from whether you want a high flow cat or a downpipe in place of the first OEM cat.

Send Cory Umemoto a note at [email protected] ... he's always been helpful and is quite knowledgeable.

I also have the Kleemann headers, downpipe, and ECU upgrade and it provided a much better sound along with a massive increase in responsiveness/driveability. Of course, the extra power is nice too I dynoed an extra 35/46 hp/tq to the wheels on a mustang dyno.
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I'm not sure there are multiple options available for the headers, aside from whether you want a high flow cat or a downpipe in place of the first OEM cat.

Send Cory Umemoto a note at [email protected] ... he's always been helpful and is quite knowledgeable.

I also have the Kleemann headers, downpipe, and ECU upgrade and it provided a much better sound along with a massive increase in responsiveness/driveability. Of course, the extra power is nice too I dynoed an extra 35/46 hp/tq to the wheels on a mustang dyno.
Right on, thanks for the response.
What are your thoughts regarding any negatives, any chance it would cause more wear/tear on the engine?

I get the increased horsepower, even responsiveness, but why improved drivability?

I'm hoping for more than 35-46 hp... if that's all I'll get I doubt I'll do it.


p.s. I just emailed Memoto, told him you sent me.
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Have you read my thread where I installed the green filters upon day 3 of my possession of the AMG?

(Posts #26 & #27 ) --> https://www.slkworld.com/amgs/221122-...estions-2.html


Hey, while we're on the topic... curious, is there a particular Kleemann header you recommend over another?

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Nope. I only read your threads that have pushup videos in em!
I just liked the pretty shiny ones!
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Roger that... so I presume one's pretty much as good as the other.

Thanks man, I'm talking with my mechanic about the install.



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Hey curious... when you did your ECU, did you send it in, have a mechanic do it or do it yourself?

I'm considering this --> Header Kit W164 (M113) w/dp

But this one is claimed to have a potentially higher HP, without the downpipe which confuses me --> http://catalog.kleemann.dk/catalog/h...930-113-ex-dp/


Not sure the best approach for the ECU.
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I thought you read my thread? It tells all and answers all of your questions

https://www.slkworld.com/slk-r171-gen...ipes-vids.html

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Hey curious... when you did your ECU, did you send it in, have a mechanic do it or do it yourself?

I'm considering this --> Header Kit W164 (M113) w/dp

But this one is claimed to have a potentially higher HP, without the downpipe which confuses me --> Header Kit 171/203/9/11/19/30-113 ex.dp.


Not sure the best approach for the ECU.
don't confuse:
AMG 55 (M113)(what u have) with AMG 55 Kompressor (M113K)(what u don't have). that is the diff in increased hp

just go to mb and ask them what kleemann dealer they recommend and then go with them. they do all the work. you just pay the $$$$


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just go to mb and ask them what kleemann dealer they recommend and then go with them. they do all the work. you just pay the $$$$
Aaaah, that's good to know!

Also, (and I'm sure this is in a post somewhere)... what kinda 0-60 decrease will 360 hp to 415 hp produce?

Figuring the 0-60 is 4.2 (seems to be the agreement amongst the masses most "in the know")... are we lookin' at what, 4.0?
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Right on, thanks for the response.
What are your thoughts regarding any negatives, any chance it would cause more wear/tear on the engine?

I get the increased horsepower, even responsiveness, but why improved drivability?

I'm hoping for more than 35-46 hp... if that's all I'll get I doubt I'll do it.


p.s. I just emailed Memoto, told him you sent me.
Some people have gotten a little more, but they may have been making less originally. That is wheel hp, so maybe add 5 or so for bhp. Adding the two above hp pieces together (not always the best thing to do) ends up at 40-50, so what I saw was in that range, but on the lower portion.

The R171 SLK55s all dyno low, for whatever reason, compared to listed bhp and the times that they run. My car stock was the highest I've seen, at 280whp on a Mustang dyno.

The improved drivability is mainly due to the much better responsiveness. I hated the sort of lag that I often had when first trying to accelerate.

Ha, did you say bumpa2 from slkworld sent you? I'm sure he doesn't know my forum name, but that's fine. He seems like a good guy, and is very helpful and knowledgeable.
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