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An L.A. driver may have invented the best traffic hack ever

A driver in Los Angeles has turned to a unique type of sign language to deal with the city’s notorious traffic.

The unidentified Lexus driver was spotted last week in Culver City holding a sign out of the window that said “Please let me in,” as the turn signal indicated a lane change.

The unique method was caught on camera and posted to YouTube by the driver of the car behind him, who wrote, “Saw this man with a 300000 IQ switching lanes.”


After being let over, the Lexus driver then stepped things up a notch by holding a “Thanks” sign out the window.

Apparently, a turn signal just isn’t effective or polite enough these days, but none of this may be needed in the future.

An important element in bringing autonomous cars to fruition on a mass scale is the development of a vehicle-to-vehicle communication system, where all of the self-driving vehicles will be able to talk to each other wirelessly to better coordinate maneuvers without running into each other.



In fact, some of the latest Mercedes-Benz models are already equipped with a simple version of this system that can monitor the traffic and road conditions and transmit the information to other cars in the area, alerting their drivers thorough the infotainment system.

It currently only works among compatible Mercedes-Benz vehicles, however, so you may not want to throw out the Sharpie and cardboard just yet.


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Mercs have a separate lane and rules anyway.

A lot of this is the driver simply queue jumping.
If it is a filter or merge lane and you leave it too late...
TOUGH!
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Queue jumpers indeed Myk. You were faster on the keys than me Almost word for word


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Must have been the 70s. I had a thing like a pingpong paddle with flip cards. Most polite, funny, or flirtatious. Nothing too rude. It actually worked! Today in Texas, that would get you shot.
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Mercs have a separate lane and rules anyway.

A lot of this is the driver simply queue jumping.
If it is a filter or merge lane and you leave it too late...
TOUGH!
Unless you have 18 wheels, or similar you will not be let in by me.
Tell me .... what is too late? A mile before the lane end? 1/2 a mile, 100 yards?

or is it just 'anywhere in front of me?'

And that Avel is why we get road rage.

The law says use ALL the available road space up to the merge point and then MERGE IN TURN.

Not letting someone in is simply small minded and if I meet you in my large pickup you are likely to get a dented wing.

1 - I'm legally merging ( read up on it )
2 - I have 2 other cars and access to 2 more so I don't really mind if the works truck is off the road for a week or two as I get to drive the SLK more.
3 - We self insure so it won't affect the no-claims on my other vehicles ( although even if it did i could afford the extra 100 bucks or so )
4 - I'm an old crotchety bar steward and I can probably get away with saying 'I did not see him and I was MERGING IN TURN.

The OP's video is entertaining and probably provides a bit of tension relief in LA's crushing traffic but really are we all so bloody minded that 1 car length is going to spoil our day? I find a bit of courtesy goes a hell of a long way and Karma is a bitch!

The person you 'won't let in' could be having the worst day of their life, a call from home about someone in distress or worse; a mental breakdown, lost their job or simply someone unfamiliar with that particular piece of road and through simple bloody mindedness you are going to create an altercation. Shame on you.
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Tell me .... what is too late? A mile before the lane end? 1/2 a mile, 100 yards?

or is it just 'anywhere in front of me?'

And that Avel is why we get road rage.

The law says use ALL the available road space up to the merge point and then MERGE IN TURN.

Not letting someone in is simply small minded and if I meet you in my large pickup you are likely to get a dented wing.


The OP's video is entertaining and probably provides a bit of tension relief in LA's crushing traffic but really are we all so bloody minded that 1 car length is going to spoil our day? I find a bit of courtesy goes a hell of a long way and Karma is a bitch!

The person you 'won't let in' could be having the worst day of their life, a call from home about someone in distress or worse; a mental breakdown, lost their job or simply someone unfamiliar with that particular piece of road and through simple bloody mindedness you are going to create an altercation. Shame on you.
I see you think that I do not allow anyone in front? Wrong!

I do follow the merge in turn process.

The person that is being merged into may also be having the worst day of their life.

Charging down the outside lane and bullying your way into the merge lane at the last moment (especially if you are in a larger vehicle) is arrogant and symptomatic of bullying.
Your points 3 & 4 imply the same. "Not my vehicle, so I don't care."

You are making the lane change, it is up to you not to interrupt the flow of traffic.
You are moving. Colliding with a stationary vehicle puts the onus on you.

The "I didn't see" comes back to you (failed to observe aka due care and attention).
That is the most hated statement for bikers world over.
It can also be proven either way by the cameras these days (and mobile phones if a serious incident).

Courtesy costs nothing.
Karma is a bitch and is due us all.

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You should follow the signs and road markings and get into the lane as directed. In congested road conditions do not change lanes unnecessarily. Merging in turn is recommended but only if safe and appropriate when vehicles are travelling at a very low speed, e.g. when approaching road works or a road traffic incident. It is not recommended at high speed.
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How can you be stationary if by your own admission 'Unless you have 18 wheels, or similar you will not be let in by me.'

I don't want to get into a fight with you but the responses by both you and Leonardo, both moderators, is far from acceptable in my opinion.

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An important element in bringing autonomous cars to fruition on a mass scale is the development of a vehicle-to-vehicle communication system, where all of the self-driving vehicles will be able to talk to each other wirelessly to better coordinate maneuvers without running into each other.
In fact, some of the latest Mercedes-Benz models are already equipped with a simple version of this system that can monitor the traffic and road conditions and transmit the information to other cars in the area, alerting their drivers thorough the infotainment system.
And, as Will Shakespeare said, therein lies the rub. Namely, that cars with that tech can only talk to other cars with that tech.

There are just over 200 houses in my subdivision, which lies somewhere between trailer park and gated community. Due at least in part, I suspect, to the way South Carolina's Personal Property Tax system favors older cars and strongly favors those over 15 years old, I'd say half the cars here are over 10 years old with a fair number over 20. and a handful that would qualify as "classic" by virtue of age alone. We're by no means unique in that regard, I'd bet that at least half the cars registered in SC are over 10 years old.

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It currently only works among compatible Mercedes-Benz vehicles, however, so you may not want to throw out the Sharpie and cardboard just yet.
Which raises another potential gotcha. Unless there's an international agreement between all auto making countries that forces all makers to use the same, or at least compatible systems, you can bet your boots there will be some that can only talk to their own manufacturer's products.

Then too, as has been proven time and time again, anything that uses software can be hacked. Autonomous vehicles offer a great potential for causing chaos on a grand scale.
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Tell me .... what is too late? A mile before the lane end? 1/2 a mile, 100 yards?

or is it just 'anywhere in front of me?'

And that Avel is why we get road rage.

The law says use ALL the available road space up to the merge point and then MERGE IN TURN.

Not letting someone in is simply small minded and if I meet you in my large pickup you are likely to get a dented wing.

1 - I'm legally merging ( read up on it )
2 - I have 2 other cars and access to 2 more so I don't really mind if the works truck is off the road for a week or two as I get to drive the SLK more.
3 - We self insure so it won't affect the no-claims on my other vehicles ( although even if it did i could afford the extra 100 bucks or so )
4 - I'm an old crotchety bar steward and I can probably get away with saying 'I did not see him and I was MERGING IN TURN.

The OP's video is entertaining and probably provides a bit of tension relief in LA's crushing traffic but really are we all so bloody minded that 1 car length is going to spoil our day? I find a bit of courtesy goes a hell of a long way and Karma is a bitch!

The person you 'won't let in' could be having the worst day of their life, a call from home about someone in distress or worse; a mental breakdown, lost their job or simply someone unfamiliar with that particular piece of road and through simple bloody mindedness you are going to create an altercation. Shame on you.

Hear,hear! I could not agree more!
Not commuting anymore but when I still was, I was always baffled by the number of drivers that said "Well, the merge lane starts HERE and that's where I'm gonna stop! Never mind the mile of unused asphalt ahead of me or the queue of drivers building up behind me, I'm gonna stop HERE and HERE is where I'm gonna merge!" For Gods sake, use the WHOLE of the asphalt they put on the merge lane for the purpose they put it there, which is TO MERGE!!!
Usually you could see that the queue on the main lane was already moving slowly again at the end of the merge lane so I would pass the "driver" (mind the quotes) over the emergency lane (forbidden,I know), drove to the end of the merge lane, adjusted my speed to the traffic on the main lane (usually something like 10 kmh), merged and went happily on my way,shaking my head in disbelief.....
I fully understand your frustration!
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Not commuting anymore but when I still was, I was always baffled by the number of drivers that said "Well, the merge lane starts HERE and that's where I'm gonna stop! Never mind the mile of unused asphalt ahead of me or the queue of drivers building up behind me, I'm gonna stop HERE and HERE is where I'm gonna merge!"
That is not what I am saying Pete.

There is a hell of difference between merging and carving up.
Using vehicle size to enforce that cut is dangerous.

Are we talking about the same thing here?

If everyone let at least one car in, traffic would move better and tempers would be less frayed.
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Charging down the outside lane and bullying your way into the merge lane at the last moment (especially if you are in a larger vehicle) is arrogant and symptomatic of bullying.
This is one of my pet hates and I see it many times every day on my journeys to and from work (M67/A57). If I'm destined to wait in a queue of traffic then so be it. There's probably a good reason for it but why should some arrogant tool think he/she has the right to lord it past everyone else then barge in at the last minute when they've run out of road?

Oddly it seems to be mainly the BMW and Audi driving 'I'm better than you plebs' brigade that do it. Sadly though I've witnessed quite a few MB's do it too so we're not immune.
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