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Using your phone when you’re driving isn’t just illegal, it’s also very dangerous to yourself and others. Though most drivers already know this, many still can’t refrain from stealing a glance – or more – at their phone screen while at the wheel.

It’s illegal to use your phone even when you’re stuck in traffic, regardless of whether you’re just checking your email, reading a quick text or using it to play music. Similarly, you can’t use it when you’re at the drive through or otherwise stationary on the public road, unless you’re engine is off and you’re parked on the side of the road.

That said, the West Midlands Police is out to catch culprits in the act and it’s doing so under the name Operation Top Deck. The entire plan is to have plainclothes officers riding the bus on the top deck, looking in on drivers in their cars – and catching those who use their mobile phones on camera.

The operation is already showing excellent results: on a single day, about 45 drivers were caught using their phones and duly reprimanded. They’re liable for fines and penalty points on their license, in case they’re first-time offenders. If they’re repeat offenders, they may even be issued a driving ban, as the BBC News video report at the bottom of the page shows.

The advantage of using a double-decker for cops to ride on is that they’re higher up than they would be in their patrol cars, PC Mark Hodson explains.

“Most of the offending is done in their lap, so unless we have a vantage point we can't actually see if they're committing the offense or not because we actually have to see the phone,” he says. “And so, this gives us the ideal position to that from and not only that but we can train up all our neighborhood policing PCSOs and PCs to do exactly the same when they go on normal bus journeys in their own communities.”

The buses are “borrowed” from National Express and don’t stand out through special markings: they look like regular passenger buses.
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Cheshire constabulary is currently having a crackdown on this but my commute is still plagued by people, as someone recently so accurately put it, 'concentrating on gazing at their crotches'. I'd say that about 5% of people I see coming the other way have that give-away eyes-down look. Assuming that my side of the road has the same percentage doing it then 10% of the drivers on the road are concentrating on something else!

It's about time we made mobile phone use as socially unacceptable as we did with drinking and driving.

There are many tests that show just how distracting this can be. If you think you are immune think again! You are a better driver when over the drink-drive limit that you are when on your mobile. People can barely walk and use a mobile, let alone operate a deadly machine while doing so!


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Your country is not alone regarding this phenomena. Here in Scottsdale, Arizona, there are many people who are driving modern (2015 or newer) high end cars (Range Rovers, BMWs, Lexi, etc) who choose to use their smartphone handsets to make cellular calls rather than pairing their devices to their cars and using their vehicle’s hands-free option. I’m guessing old retired folks as well as their younger family members who live in the area do not want to spend the trouble learning how to use their vehicle options.
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Its called Bluetooth pairing and its so extremly difficult to do as you have to input a 4 digit number to pair the phone and car up .
You need a degree in science and go on a 5 day course on how to punch in 4 digit number .
Its baffled people for many years now .
And there is also a refresher course just in case you forget its a four digit number .

There is an Idiots guide book out on how to pair a phone to car 956 page book.
1st page on how its done 955 pages on why you should do it .
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Good idea, though speaking on a Mobile phone via Blue Tooth is just as dangerous, unless the person calling just asks two simple questions:
1. No rush, but's what's Your current ETA..?
2. Are You OK with Curry & Beer for dinner..??
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The buses are “borrowed” from National Express and don’t stand out through special markings: they look like regular passenger buses.
"Don't stand out, apart from no passengers and one "Billy no Mates" person on the top deck with a hand held radio....!!
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Just try doing two things at the same time. I usually peruse these threads in the evening while watching some tv.

I figure I can listen to the tv while reading/typing here. I miss 50% of the program. Can't be done.

Fines here are high but it is still no deterrent: $490 if you don't go to court, up to $1,000 if you go to court and lose (plus court costs plus "victim's surcharge" fee; non-negotiable).
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Good idea, though speaking on a Mobile phone via Blue Tooth is just as dangerous, unless the person calling just asks two simple questions:
1. No rush, but's what's Your current ETA..?
2. Are You OK with Curry & Beer for dinner..??
Then hang up

"Don't stand out, apart from no passengers and one "Billy no Mates" person on the top deck with a hand held radio....!!
At least with hands free bluetooth you have both wheels on the steering wheel and in control .
Not one hand on wheel and gear change while texting and scrolling on phone and liking everything on faceache !
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I added handsfree to all of my cars, even my '70 and R170. I also can just push one button on the dash to answer the phone. Most have magnetic holders for the phone near the radio. Have been doing this since 2012, before I had to pull over and stop to answer.

That said when driving it is no different than talking to a passenger or looking at the speedo (I prefer digital, can read faster). Therefore with a proper handsfree installation, what is the objection ? YWTK


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i added handsfree to all of my cars, even my '70 and r170. I also can just push one button on the dash to answer the phone. Most have magnetic holders for the phone near the radio. Have been doing this since 2012, before i had to pull over and stop to answer.

that said when driving it is no different than talking to a passenger or looking at the speedo (i prefer digital, can read faster). Therefore with a proper handsfree installation, what is the objection ? Ywtk

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Guess you have an opinion in there somewhere...


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No...just the facts. Read the link!
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What concerns me is them new driving apps on how safe you drive by yes you guessed it the Insurance Companys .

Load it on your phone and guess what look at it on your dashboard as the commercial shows you .

To me that is wrong also .
Or have i seen it wrong ?
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I switch my phone off when in the car!
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What concerns me is them new driving apps on how safe you drive by yes you guessed it the Insurance Companys .

Load it on your phone and guess what look at it on your dashboard as the commercial shows you .

To me that is wrong also .
Or have i seen it wrong ?

Not sure what driving apps you refer to. My lad has a a telemetrics box behind his dash that will tell him how well or poorly he drove. Not sure if it can be live fed but I don't think thats a good idea if it can. He would be scored and can see the data when he finished his journey.


The data gathered has an inbuilt fault though. It can and will pick up on braking harshly and score you down. I was with him once when he braked suddenly and harshly....when he sucessfully avoided a collision when some s*** for brains who pulled out on him. He was scored down to minus 5 for that. Where's the justice on that one.
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Not sure what driving apps you refer to. My lad has a a telemetrics box behind his dash that will tell him how well or poorly he drove. Not sure if it can be live fed but I don't think thats a good idea if it can. He would be scored and can see the data when he finished his journey.


The data gathered has an inbuilt fault though. It can and will pick up on braking harshly and score you down. I was with him once when he braked suddenly and harshly....when he sucessfully avoided a collision when some s*** for brains who pulled out on him. He was scored down to minus 5 for that. Where's the justice on that one.
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Clearly shows phone on dash and they touch it to start journey id imagine ?
Dont know to much about just its advertised often .
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Some people just cant leave their phones alone can they. You dont need an app...just your skills and observations. Strikes me as though having an app to look at would be nothing short of distracting.



Driver kills pedestrian while looking at phone telling him what a great driver he is....Cant wait for that court case to surface.



I drive for a living. I wont use my phone while driving even though my van has bluetooth connectivity built in. I dont connect to it. My boss fully understands my views. He still calls and texts me as my day changes but I'll only respond when it's safe to pull over.
Does that make me a better driver? I think so.
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a) what link ? The videos ?

b) To answer a call, dial a number, listen to a text, I push a button either on the steering wheel or on/next to the radio. No need to look down. I go to great pains to make this as simple as possible. Agree more should have this technology.

Personally think the 8" - 10" - ginormous (Tesla) video screens the factories put on the dash can be a lot more distracting.


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a) what link ? The videos ?

b) To answer a call, dial a number, listen to a text, I push a button either on the steering wheel or on/next to the radio. No need to look down. I go to great pains to make this as simple as possible. Agree more should have this technology.

Personally think the 8" - 10" - ginormous (Tesla) video screens the factories put on the dash can be a lot more distracting.

Appologies...I put the link into post #9 as an edit while you were posting #10 ...here it is again:


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-42251581


I know nothing of Tesla's screen. As for point b)..if you think it's safe, carry on!
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Whilst I do not agree with phoning and driving, how does an idiot justify texting, watching movie clips etc?

Personally, I do not like to call someone driving, even if they are on Bluetooth.
I only ever answer Bluetooth in the car.
It will be a brief conversation, very brief.
'Driving, call later'.

The only conversation I like in the car is the one with myself.
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