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EU electrified car push is driven by rules, not market demand



The Jaguar I-Pace is the first full-electric model from an established automaker with the performance and price tag to challenge Tesla. Others will follow soon.

Automakers are pouring money into electric vehicles as local and Europewide legislation pushes them to electrify their lineups with different combinations of battery technology — whether they want to or not. The small number of EVs available, either full-electric cars or plug-in hybrids, is slowly increasing as the battery technology improves and battery costs decline.

This year, Jaguar launched the I-Pace, the first full-electric model from an established automaker with the performance and price tag to challenge Tesla. In the volume sector, Hyundai introduced long-range capability -- up to 480 km (298 miles) -- with the Kona EV SUV.

German premium brands are launching their fight back against Tesla - Audi with the e-tron SUV and Mercedes-Benz with the EQC. The choice of high-end, long-range (400 to 500 km) electric cars will expand further when Porsche launches the Taycan sedan.

Electric cars are perceived to be image-boosting. Whether that is a result of Tesla's efforts or a backlash against polluting diesels is difficult to say. But over the past 12 months, automakers looking for positive publicity have made bold promises to electrify their global fleets in the midterm.

• By 2023, 86 percent of all PSA Group's models will have an electric or plug-in option.

• By the end of 2022, Fiat Chrysler Automobiles will have launched more than 30 nameplates with electric drivetrains.

• Starting in 2019, every all-new Volvo launched will have some form of electrification. This will include 48-volt mild hybrid, plug-in hybrid and full-electric powertrains. Volvo's headline-generating announcement, made July 2017, inspired many others to follow suit.

• Renault plans to launch eight full-electric models and 12 electrified models by 2022.

• The Volkswagen Group has announced it will launch 25 electric vehicles by 2020 and plans to sell up to 3 million EVs annually by 2025.

• By 2022, Ford will have 16 dedicated battery-electric vehicles globally.

• Also by 2022, Daimler will electrify the entire range of Mercedes cars.

• Every new Jaguar Land Rover vehicle will be electrified by 2020.

• One-third of all Maseratis will be electrified by the mid-2020s.



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You should find a 300TD ....all you have to do is change them headlights to bring the car into the 21st Century.
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I like the idea of the electric vehicles, Instant torque, super fast acceleration, great idea for off road, but I also don’t like the long recharge time. I do like an idea of a electric vehicle, aided by a small engine to charge the batteries.
Two places where a Tesla type vehicle wouldn’t work for me;
1) I leave today and have to be Chicago by tomorrow night, 1200 miles, but only a 300 mile range at best. One charge could be my over night stay and I might get lucky and find one or two at a place where I could stop for lunch/dinner, but odds are I would have two chargings wher I sit for 45 mins. Does seem productive to me
2) this past summer, we had a major fire in Durango. I had gone up to Silverton for lunch and was head back home, when the road got closed. It was about a 300-350 mile detour to get home, after driving the 120 miles to get Silverton. Had to go around the mountains. So these are all little mountain towns in Colorado and where am I to charge up? This little trip told me that an all electric vehicle is not for me.
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I like the idea of the electric vehicles, Instant torque, super fast acceleration, great idea for off road, but I also don’t like the long recharge time. I do like an idea of a electric vehicle, aided by a small engine to charge the batteries.
Two places where a Tesla type vehicle wouldn’t work for me;
1) I leave today and have to be Chicago by tomorrow night, 1200 miles, but only a 300 mile range at best. One charge could be my over night stay and I might get lucky and find one or two at a place where I could stop for lunch/dinner, but odds are I would have two chargings wher I sit for 45 mins. Does seem productive to me
2) this past summer, we had a major fire in Durango. I had gone up to Silverton for lunch and was head back home, when the road got closed. It was about a 300-350 mile detour to get home, after driving the 120 miles to get Silverton. Had to go around the mountains. So these are all little mountain towns in Colorado and where am I to charge up? This little trip told me that an all electric vehicle is not for me.
Uk land where its a little smaller than some other countries and especially my way where most dont drive further than 10 miles be a hot seller and would suit my personal requirments .
Its all about if it fits your req .
But if your looking at getting one its if you have two car option one electric for poodling around and one car for longer journeys .

Theres a few Electric cars my way now and more now .
As for charging time that will be cut back with rapid charging coming soon .

Trouble is as soon as the uk adopt more of these cars the new Electric car Tax will be introduced .
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A colleague of mine has a BMW 5 series plug in hybrid. He asked for a tow bar to be fitted but the dealer said sorry we don't recommend you tow with this car. Obviously the Battery packs are very heavy and don't get lighter the more power you use. Range would be reduced when towing so now you need double length charging bays where you will need to park up for a hour or so?
People generally travel further when going on holiday and generally do not go to cities so caravan folk would need charging points with high ampage sockets.
Things will become better I am sure but for now a massive investment in cables and charge points will be required. Think about the internet roll out, rural areas still don't have high speed connection and that is cheap compared to high voltage/amps cable.
Maybe you will drive to a hub where a battery swap is made, Plug n Go but no manufacturer will make the Battery tray the same..... no government would have this vision or balls to make a standard now. Think phone batteries.
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A colleague of mine has a BMW 5 series plug in hybrid. He asked for a tow bar to be fitted but the dealer said sorry we don't recommend you tow with this car. Obviously the Battery packs are very heavy and don't get lighter the more power you use. Range would be reduced when towing so now you need double length charging bays where you will need to park up for a hour or so?
People generally travel further when going on holiday and generally do not go to cities so caravan folk would need charging points with high ampage sockets.
Things will become better I am sure but for now a massive investment in cables and charge points will be required. Think about the internet roll out, rural areas still don't have high speed connection and that is cheap compared to high voltage/amps cable.
Maybe you will drive to a hub where a battery swap is made, Plug n Go but no manufacturer will make the Battery tray the same..... no government would have this vision or balls to make a standard now. Think phone batteries.
Its very very very early days for this tech
Look at how long it was for people to adopt diesel cars many many years and the start of it was it dont go far.........
Its noisy
Whats the point smelly , dirty etc

Now look its every where many years on and perfected as such .
It took a few years mind you .

Electric cars if done right will come on leaps and bounds .
BMW have wireless charging under car so no need to plug in just drive over the charging plate and thats it .
Range will get there slowly as time goes by .
Look at the leaf .

Its like Apple they add bits on every year to lure you in .
Electric cars manufactures wont say our brand new car it does a 1000 mile range ..........and next years model they wont sell any because they brought out there range out to quick .

We dont think of plugging in our mobile phones over night to charge same thing with cars as such .

Least we are in control of our electric at home at the moment not the esculating pump prices here at a all time high !
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Trouble is as soon as the uk adopt more of these cars the new Electric car Tax will be introduced
Maybe you can fool the tax man with this Designo Electric Green SLK. It is Electric and you going Green ...you should get a heck of a tax break.

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Just one question, where’s all this electricity being generated?
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