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Hi guys , just wondering if any of you guys in the US know much about Herbalife It's just taking off here in the UK and wondered if its worth investing in ?
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Years ago here in the US, they had a weight loss product called Metabolife which had an ingredient in it called ephedra. I lost a lot of weight with it's use back in the late 1990's. Since then however, the FDA (USA's federal drug administration) has banned it due to harmful effects when taken regularly. IMHP, their products are now just like all the rest, full of caffeine in products that do not usually live up to the users expectations. That is my "FWIW" two cents.

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Thanks Steven ...a friend has organised a shaker party I may attend
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ponzi scheme....watch out

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Now that's very interesting Jeff...........thank You
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herbalife is a lot like amway- the products are really secondary to the multi-level marketing business model. The business model follows a pyramid structure where the more levels of people you get under you in that pyramid, the more money you make.

The theory of MLM programmes is that if you recruit 2 people, and they recruit 2 people each and they recruit 2 people each then the number of people at each level goes: 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, 1024 etc. with 3 people each time it's 1, 3, 9, 27, 81, 243, 729, 2187, 6561 etc.

When you start talking about number growth like that, you only need small percentage revenue share of the products being bought/sold by those people for the revenue to mount up. Which would be nice if it actually worked that way in real life - but the hope is finding people who will really work at building the network below them, hence benefiting those who introduced them.

the later you come to the party, the harder it is to find new people - eventually things get saturated, which is the flip side to the exponential nature of pyramids. at least it isn't like the old water filter pyramid schemes where you had to buy the stock to resell, and you'd be left seriously out of pocket if you didn't.

A friend of mine made a great deal of money from herbalife in the US, but she got in early. I've known people try the same kind of business model with amway - some made modest money, but most didn't.

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I just need to know if the product is any good
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the real product being sold is "hope" - the hope of making a lot of money from the pyramid beneath you. if you're stuck on the physical product, you're not getting the point.
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I should add: if you do give it a go, you'll be hosting parties like your friend is, in the hope of finding people who will give it a go by hosting parties themselves to find new people and so on. That's how the pyramids are built.

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Pyramids schemes are a bad thing to invest in, be careful and please dont bring them here.
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Pyramids schemes are a bad thing to invest in, be careful and please dont bring them here.
No chance of that I'm giving it a miss...thanks Guys
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Agreed!

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Pyramids schemes are a bad thing to invest in, be careful and please dont bring them here.
I concur with you 100%!
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... ya but you get to see all the early opt-in guys who enjoy showing off their yachts, $5 million homes, Bentleys, Maybachs, private jets, et al. at the conventions!
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Never involved personally, but I knew a couple of people who were heavily invested both personally and financially. It's a great way to loose your money and your friends. At first, your friends will buy the stuff from you out of obligation and then they will avoid you like the plague.....and then you'll have a lot of leftover expensive "product" to consume.


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ya but you get to see all the early opt-in guys who enjoy showing off their yachts, $5 million homes, Bentleys, Maybachs, private jets, et al. at the conventions!
no kidding. Went to an amway convention once but it didn't have the desired effect - it scared me to death seeing thousands of people mesmerised by the trinkets on show and the dream being dangled in front of them.

It was very cultish - people being told to only associate with positive people (ie other amway promoters), being given books to read and a constant stream of tapes full of motivation and direction messages. Saw that backfire when a guy did a runner with a heap of money taken from his trusting downline.

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no kidding. Went to an amway convention once but it didn't have the desired effect - it scared me to death seeing thousands of people mesmerised by the trinkets on show and the dream being dangled in front of them.

It was very cultish - people being told to only associate with positive people (ie other amway promoters), being given books to read and a constant stream of tapes full of motivation and direction messages. Saw that backfire when a guy did a runner with a heap of money taken from his trusting downline.
Pyramids ... Cultish... Illuminati???
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