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Say Goodbye to the Car Salesman

A car salesman used to spend long days on his feet. Now he's becoming like everyone else—stuck most days in a chair in front of a computer screen.

The Internet has been upending car sales for more than 15 years. That change is now coming down hard on the people on the front lines—converting them into more into concierges than hand-shaking sales maestros.

Customers are simply different today. They've scoured the Web for up-to-date price information and have probably made a decision even before showing up on a dealer's lot. The salesman doesn't have as much to do.

"The whole process of buying a car has been flipped flop from what it used to be," said Alison Spitzer, vice president of Spitzer Auto Group in Elyria, Ohio. "Today, customers find the car first, then the dealership."

Take Mia Morris, the new face of auto sales. The 30-year-old doesn't work on commission, isn't interested in haggling over price and spends more time online conversing with customers than on the showroom floor.

Her business card identifies her as "product specialist," and the low-key title matches her duties at Nissan of Manhattan. Instead of the hard sell, she says her job is more tutorial. "Everything is visible. It is transparent for the customers," she said. "It is more like trying to help them find the right car and make a smart choice."

Before price-information websites like and, dealers typically had the upper hand in negotiating a car's price, and often could score a healthy profit on a sale.

Today, buyers call or walk into a showroom already armed with a car's invoice price, competing dealer bids and discounts from the manufacturers, and can get updates on their cellphones while standing in the store. They can access online reviews of the salesperson and dealership.

That has led many dealers to eliminate commissioned pay, price new vehicles closer to their own costs and station more staff in front of computers, where they are rewarded for generating sales quickly and in higher volumes, rather than trying to talk a customer into buying a more expensive model.

According to AutoTrader Group, a research and marketing firm, the average car shopper spends more than 11 hours online researching cars and only 3˝ hours offline, including trips to the dealership. Two years ago, the average time spent offline was more than six hours.

The economics is forcing some of the changes. Average gross profit on a new-car sale dropped to $1,283 last year from $1,531 in 2002, according to the National Automobile Dealers Association.

Average salary of a sales person rose to $63,800 last year from $45,940 in 2002, but that is only slightly ahead of inflation during the same period, said Ted Kraybill, president of DeltaTrends, a firm that studies workforce trends at car dealership.

Responding to such trends, Spitzer Auto in Ohio got rid of sales commissions three years ago, and now pays all its salespeople a flat rate for each car they sell and a twice-monthly bonus for hitting sales targets.

The chain also instituted a no-haggle policy, setting an advertised price and sticking to it. "The customers like it because they don't feel pressured," said Jeff Deisz, a 30-year-old salesman at Al Spitzer Ford in Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio.

"It doesn't make me seem as pushy, and I know what I'm going to make upfront," Mr. Deisz added.

Large dealership chains like AutoNation Inc. are testing new ways of paying sales people because of shrinking per vehicle profit. Mike Maroone, chief operating officer of AutoNation, the largest U.S. auto retailer by number of outlets, said it is looking at a combination of salary and volume-based commissions, but "it is still too early to say where this goes."

At Nissan of Manhattan, where Ms. Morris works, signs facing the entrance tout the dealership's new approach with phrases like "no more commissioned sales people" and "finally, no more back and forth to see the sales manager."

John Iacono, co-president of Bram Auto Group, which owns the store, said: he was inspired by the simplicity of Apple Inc.'s retail stores."Why do we make it so complicated?" Mr. Iacono said. "In the last 100 years, automobiles have gone from near-horse buggies to almost driving themselves. And yet, the way they are sold hasn't changed."

Since the move, the store has increased sales, doubled its closing rate with customers and cut the time it takes to complete a sale to under an hour, he said. Now, he is working to overhaul the auto retail group's 20 other stores along the same lines.

The transition hasn't been without its challenges.

When Mr. Iacono jettisoned sales commissions, more than three-quarters of his sales staff left, he said. The store had to hire new people, and went outside the car business to find new recruits. Ms. Morris previously sold gourmet foods.

At other stores, dealers are allocating more sales staff online to deal with the growing volume of inquiries that now come in over the Web.

At Toyota Sunnyvale, a dealership located in the heart of Silicon Valley, about half the store's sales staff are parked in front of computers and "do nothing but wait on customers digitally," said Adam Simms, chief operating officer of the store's owner, Price Simms Auto Group.

Among his online staff is Stan Wolowski, 59, an 18-year veteran of the car sales business who spends most days emailing customers and responding to inquiries that arrive through the store's website or via car-shopping sources, such as

Occasionally, he'll converse with customers using online chat—a far cry from his days waiting for a showroom customer. "The guy walking onto the car lot is a dwindling end of the business," Mr. Wolowski said. "The heavy lifting is now done online and if you're not in that flow, you're not going to see the bulk of the business.
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I couldn't agree more, more than three years ago when I was looking for my 911, I used, ebay, and autotrader. Found what I wanted on ebay, did a lot of research on the car I wanted to buy. Placed an offer, was counter offered and agreed to the final price. Best car buying experience I ever had. Flew out to San Diego to test drive it and arrange for shipment back to Colorado. Much better than spending half a day at the dealer ship going back and forth with the sales manager. I used to show up at 8:45pm when I know they close at 9pm so they would speed up the process b/c everyone wants to go home. Just a horrible experience.

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I've never been sold a car in my life - I've always bought them. It annoyed me that with my current SLK, even though I picked it up from the factory that made it, I still had to go through my local dealer. Why should a 'middleman' get a few grand commission for doing what I could do in a 2 minute email?

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