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Veterans Day & Remembrance Day November 11th, 2013

PRESIDENT REAGAN: Those who live today remember those who do not. Those who know freedom remember today those who gave up life for freedom.


Today, in honor of the dead, we conduct ceremonies. We lay wreaths. We speak words of tribute. And in our memories, in our hearts, we hold them close to us still. Yet we also know, even as their families knew when they last looked upon them, that they can never be fully ours again, that they belong now to God and to that for which they so selflessly made a final and eternal act of devotion.


We could not forget them. Even if they were not our own, we could not forget them. For all time, they are what we can only aspire to be: giving, unselfish, the epitome of human love -- to lay down one's life so that others might live.
We think on their lives. We think on their final moments. In our mind's eye, we see young Americans in a European forest or on an Asian island or at sea or in aerial combat.


And as life expired, we know that those who could had last thoughts of us and of their love for us. As they thought of us then, so, too, we think of them now, with love, with devotion, and with faith: the certainty that what they died for was worthy of their sacrifice -- faith, too, in God and in the Nation that has pledged itself to His work and to the dream of human freedom, and a nation, too, that today and always pledges itself to their eternal memory.

I wish to take this moment to thank all veterans, past and present and future, for their dedication and love, their separation from family, and their love of country. For those that gave their lives, we can never repay you. For those maimed and injured, we pray for your comfort and safety. For those loved ones left behind alone, you are in our thoughts and prayers.

The following is from another speech:

"Let me close with a memory from another war monument. This one is a British memorial in Burma, from World War II. It says so eloquently what I think we should all feel today. It says, "When you go home, tell them of us and say for your tomorrow we gave our today."

So today as each of you go home, tell them of our soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines and coast guard who are giving their today around the world for a better future for all Americans. And for a moment pause and remember those who had made possible your tomorrows. And from the memory of these honored dead, let us recommit ourselves to never forget the sacrifices of these fallen and of their families, and let us commit ourselves to renew our commitment to the values and ideals that have made this nation what it is today, the greatest nation in the world.


Thank you. God bless you.


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....and thank you for your services to our country
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A BIG THANKS to all the Service Men and Women who are serving or have served. Home of the Free because of the Brave.
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I was brought up to remember the war dead, to respect those who volunteer, and those caught up as bystanders, to know that there is no glory in war. Wilfred Owen was standard homework every November.

I grew up in an era when waving a national flag is sign of unhealthy nationalism. A prelude to a bomb in dustbin in Spain, Ireland or Britain; and just when that seemed to be history we had the horrors of the Balkans.

I remember filing into school remembrance services, the silence, the muted organ for sombre hymns. The contradiction of praying for peace when people had just been killed on the streets of Britain in the name of religion by people waving national flags. The pictures of the dead and disappeared on the news, the name calling in the playground. For many waving a flag is shorthand for violence and repression.

I was recently in Trafalgar Square in London. Look at the statues, the names of the streets, and the scale of the architecture, then realise the lands of the free are built on the spoils of war, on the sacrifices of the vanquished.

So when you remember the dead and those called to battle, remember them as people with families and shattered lives - as humans, not for whatever flag they waved.
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie; Dulce et Decorum est
Pro patria mori.
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Three generations of my family have served. One did not come home.


They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.
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There are those who served, those who tried to feed their families, and those who fought because of their beliefs (whether right or wrong). If only we could lay down our arms and talk and realize our beliefs will always be different in many ways but similar in others. Regardless of this, there are bad people out there in this world that do bad things and I am grateful to know that there are people trying to defend others against those who wish to seize power through violence or change minds through terror. For those who have lost people they loved regardless of the country this is a day to remember the ones who are not with us anymore and to thank those who fought for the idea that people should not live in terror. Unfortunately, terror will always be part of our world, but at least there are those who try to protect others and give them a chance to live a more normal life.
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As I've said before, in the US, (from Wikipedia)Veterans Day is not to be confused with Memorial Day; Veterans Day celebrates the service of all U.S. military veterans, while Memorial Day is a day of remembering the men and women who died while serving.

That having been stated...thank you, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, ALL VETERANS, WORLD-WIDE
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As I've said before, in the US, (from Wikipedia)Veterans Day is not to be confused with Memorial Day; Veterans Day celebrates the service of all U.S. military veterans, while Memorial Day is a day of remembering the men and women who died while serving.

That having been stated...thank you, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, ALL VETERANS, WORLD-WIDE
You are absolutely correct, but then there are combat vets like myself who will also remember the friends who were unable to celebrate with the rest of us so I sometimes lose track. Grateful to all who have and still serve to keep their country safe
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Thanks to all the Veterans who served.
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For those of us who survived our time as the tip of the spear, we owe it to the ones who didn't, our families, and ourselves to make the most of the life God granted us and be thankful. I don't think it gets any plainer than that.
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Veterans Day should be to honor those that lived, those that had to bear the sight of comrades that did not. We need to let the living know that the burden of living with what they have seen, what they have had to do in the defense of US, OUR life's, is not forgotten, nor unappreciated. That we support THEM as much as they did us.
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For the British Commonwealth November 11th, Armistice Day 1918, is our day of remembrance for those that severed, those that fell, and those that still bear scars. It is not a celebration of war, as some would say, but rather of their sacrifice and valor on our behalf. Every freedom and right we cherish we owe to them.

I offer the following from Lt Col John McCrae, a field surgeon with the Canadian Army in WW1.

In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row
That mark our place: and in the sky
The larks still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the **** below.

We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved, and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The Torch: be yours to hold it high!
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields
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And from WW2...

Pilot Officer John Gillespie Magee, Jr

Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of earth,
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
Sunward I've climbed, and joined the tumbling mirth
Of sun-split clouds, --and done a hundred things
You have not dreamed of --Wheeled and soared and swung
High in the sunlit silence. Hov'ring there
I've chased the shouting wind along, and flung
My eager craft through footless halls of air...
Up, up the long, delirious, burning blue
I've topped the wind-swept heights with easy grace
Where never lark or even eagle flew --
And, while with silent lifting mind I've trod
The high untrespassed sanctity of space,
Put out my hand, and touched the face of God.

Magee brings many of us here together; he was an American born in Shanghai to an American father and British mother (missionaries), joined the Royal Canadian Air Force before the US entered the war. He was trained in Canada and assigned to 412 Sqn (still operational) on Spitfires; he perished in a midair over Lincolnshire 11 Dec 41.
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Magee brings many of us here together; he was an American born in Shanghai to an American father and British mother (missionaries), joined the Royal Canadian Air Force before the US entered the war. He was trained in Canada and assigned to 412 Sqn (still operational) on Spitfires; he perished in a midair over Lincolnshire 11 Dec 41.

High Flight is one of my favourite poems ever.

I don't know whether you know this, but Magee was educated at Rugby School from 1935-39, where he began to develop his talent for poetry. He won the school's Poetry Prize in 1938. He was particularly moved by the roll of honour of Rugby pupils who had fallen in World War 1, including the poet Rupert Brooke, who famously wrote

The Soldier

IF I should die, think only this of me:
That there's some corner of a foreign field
That is forever England. There shall be
In that rich earth a richer dust concealed;
A dust whom England bore, shaped, made aware,
Gave, once, her flowers to love, her ways to roam,
A body of England's, breathing English air,
Washed by the rivers, blest by the suns of home.

And think, this heart, all evil shed away,
A pulse in the eternal mind, no less
Gives somewhere back the thoughts by England given;
Her sights and sounds; dreams happy as her day;
And laughter, learnt of friends; and gentleness,
In hearts at peace, under an English heaven.
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