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Drive in google glasses-get a ticket

http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/30/tech/m...ket/index.html

(CNN) -- In what might be a first, a woman in California received a traffic ticket for wearing Google Glass while driving.

Cecilia Abadie was pulled over for speeding on Tuesday in San Diego and given an additional citation for driving while wearing her Google Glass. The officer considered the head-mounted display a monitor that was visible to the driver. Shocked, Abadie posted a copy of the ticket on Google+.

Traffic laws vary state by state, but many now have broad distracted-driving laws or bans on certain monitors that could easily apply to Google Glass.

The California law cited in Abadie's case is meant to prevent people from watching television while driving. V C 27602 prohibits televisions and similar monitors from being turned on and facing the driver. There are exceptions for GPS and mapping tools and screens that display camera feeds to help the driver navigate. If a device has a safety feature that limits its display to approved uses while driving, it can be allowed.
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"I think the law is broad enough to say it violates the law," said San Diego attorney Mitchell Mehdy, also known as "Mr. Ticket." Mehdy has been working in traffic law for 25 years and said this is the first case he's heard of involving Google Glass.

Abadie says her Google Glass was not turned on when she was pulled over, and that the officer said the screen was blocking her view. The Google Glass display is located slightly above the right eye, not directly in front of the eye.

Google does warn users about running afoul of traffic laws in its Google Glass FAQ: "Most states have passed laws limiting the use of mobile devices while driving any motor vehicle, and most states post those rules on their department of motor vehicles websites. Read up and follow the law!"

However, in another section on navigation, it says Glass can give turn-by-turn directions, "whether you're on a bike, in a car, taking the subway, or going by foot."

Glass fans defended the technology in comments on Abadie's post, saying that a voice-activated screen close to the eye could actually be safer than trying to check a smartphone or other monitor while driving.

"Glass is far safer than any other means of information delivery. It is out of your view and not distracting," said Aaron Kasten, who compared it to checking speed and other information on a car's dashboard, which requires taking your eyes off of the road.

The turn-by-turn directions on Glass can be turned on with a voice command. The display will show a map view, but for extra safety the screen can be turned off while driving so there's only voice navigation.

A Google Glass spokesperson didn't address the ticket directly but emphasized responsible Google Glass usage, saying, "As we make clear in our help center, Explorers should always use Glass responsibly and put their safety and the safety of others first. More broadly, Glass is built to connect you more with the world around you, not distract you from it."

Abadie could take the case to court and try to get the Google Glass portion of the ticket dismissed.

"How can this officer prove that this display was being activated or was actually on at the time and what kind of signal she's getting?" said Mehdy.

State laws are always adapting to new technology, and Google Glass is still a somewhat rare sighting. The device is only available as part of a beta program and is not yet sold commercially. According to Mehdy, new technology is a tempting target for law enforcement looking for new ways to bring in money.

"There's a wealth of revenue to be generated from technology. The traffic law enforcement is coming and saying wow, we've got this new incredible device and we want our piece too," said Mehdy. With a mandatory minimum fine in California is $162, this is just the beginning of more tickets for Google Glass wearers according to Mehdy.

Law enforcement is increasingly enforcing distracted driving laws. During the month of April, there were more that 57,000 distracted driving tickets issued in California as part of Distracted Driving Awareness Month, according to the California Office of Traffic Safety.


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As you can imagine, this has been all over the news here in Southern California for the last couple of days. Being a technology sorta guy most of my life, I tend to follow such items. Two things of note -- first, pay particular attention that this driver was originally pulled-over and cited for a speeding ticket; the Google Glass citation was then also issued at the same time (meaning, I bet this would have not happened if she was not driving illegally in the first place and having it on her head but supposedly turned off sure makes one wonder if that's true or not). Second, I'm personally glad this gets into the legal system now vs when the technology goes into more general availability and there are thousands/millions of them out there. We at least have an opportunity to deal with it before it possibly gets out of control like cell phones did, States trying to now almost impossibly reel-in and enforce hands free use laws after people have picked-up and used cell phones manually for years. Me, well, I don't plan to play with Google Glass at the outset or perhaps ever -- I have no trust in what Google will/won't do with data collected by the device as time goes on, and it's only a matter of time until ads start appearing in what you see, just like scifi movies such as Blade Runner -- and, with my needing to wear bifocals anyway, well, I don't think I could deal with something else attached to my head and face all of my waking hours.


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She should be charged with 'making a spectacle of herself'.
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I think they must be distracting to some point and their use whilst driving should be dissuaded !
If they were off , why was she wearing them ??
There are too many distractions whilst driving as it is , I see so many people talking on their mobile phones whilst driving , knowing that it's dangerous and that they can be fined , when a simple bluetooth system can do away with it !
I know there's been a lot of accidents due to people texting whilst driving as well , are they nuts or what ??
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Okay, I will keep this short (for now) since I've only a few minutes before my next flight... As a Glass owner and user of the past 5 months now, and one that occasionally travels for work, I have to say that I find it to be immensely safer than trying to deal with smartphone or in - car / unfamiliar navigation systems.

I literally am flying back from San Diego of all places doing a software rollout so I find it amusing as I've been asked my opinion of it quite a few times over the past few days! :-)

Trying to navigate an unfamiliar city with a paper map or verbal directions would be insane at this point for someone as directionally challenged as myself, so when I travel I almost exclusively use Glass as I feel it's safer than any of the alternatives I could realistically use. It gives me just navigation when I activate it, nothing more. No distracting emails or tweets, just when I need to take a turn.

It follows your head direction, but most of all the focal point feels further out than something that's sitting on your dash or windshield, so it also feels like your eyes don't have to adjust to varying distances as a standalone unit would require (though an integrated HUD in a car may be better at this sometimes, it doesn't follow your vision so it requires more time and brain power to use).

That being said, I also think that one needs to use proper judgment! If you're not using it for navigating (which as always I advise to selecting your destination before you drive) you really shouldn't! I don't like people texting or talking on the phone at all while driving... Even hands - free devices utilize lots of brain power, especially if you're trying to hold a conversation. I feel car navigation at this point isn't bad as long as you're not fiddling with controls whilst driving... As you're following directions which in my opinion as a technology - centric person (Programmer) it feels a lot less stressful. If you miss a turn, it reroutes you without fail.

So I'm not certain where the law should lie. I would prefer it if I'd continually be allowed to use it in a safe and efficient manner, however I understand that many people don't have the necessary self control to not be stupid about some of the technology they can get access to. But I would definitely like to go on record that if used for (how I feel at least) what is intended and not abused, it can totally be safer.

At least for me, I get flustered and stressed when I don't know where I'm going. I would be a huge danger in the road if it weren't for GPS Navigation! Well, as much danger as a slow rental car can be (I jest, they totally still can be!) =)
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Ticket for driving in Google Glass dismissed

http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/16/tech/i...html?hpt=hp_t2

(CNN) -- It may have been the most anticipated traffic court date ever.
Southern California resident Cecilia Abadie appeared in San Diego traffic court on Thursday for speeding and for wearing Google Glass while driving. It is considered the first time someone has been cited for wearing the face-mounted technology while driving.
Commissioner John Blair threw out both charges, stating there wasn't enough evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the Google Glass was turned on at the time. It is only illegal to wear the device while driving if it is operational.
Abadie was pulled over in October for speeding by the California Highway Patrol. The officer then cited her for wearing Google Glass under California vehicle code 27602, which prohibits operating a video-display in front of the driver's head rest where it can distract the driver. The law was originally drafted to keep people from watching TV while driving.
Google Glass is Google's early version of a head-mounted computer display. A small square monitor sits above the right eye, just out of the normal line of vision. To view information on the display like a map or text message, the wearer must look up.
Google Glass defenders claim Glass is safer to use while driving than a smartphone since it can be voice controlled and you only have to glance up and to the right to view the Glass display. Many rallied to Abadie's defense, even starting a #freececilia hashtag on Twitter.
Google did not respond to a request to comment on the case, but in its Google Glass FAQ, it warns: "Most states have passed laws limiting the use of mobile devices while driving any motor vehicle, and most states post those rules on their department of motor vehicles websites. Read up and follow the law!"
"Anything that distracts you from driving is something that were concerned about," said CHP Public Affairs Pfficer Jake Sanchez.
While the ruling was a big win for Abadie, a product manager who wears her Glass 12 hours a day (she rested them around her neck while in the courtroom), it is not a green light for Google Glass wearers to freely wear and use their devices while driving.
"It doesn't necessarily answer the question everybody wanted: Is it legal to drive down the road wearing Google Glass while it's operating?" said William Concidine of My Traffic Guys. Concidine and his partner, Gabriel Moore, are the traffic ticket attorneys who defended Abadie in court on Thursday.
Google Glass wearers in California can still be pulled over and cited for wearing the head-mounted displays while driving. Whether they get a warning or a ticket will be up to the individual officer. Getting a charges dismissed will then be up to individual traffic court judges.
"There is no law that that specifically says Google Glass is illegal. Each officer has to take each case on a case-by-case basis," said Sanchez.
A dismissal in court is not uncommon for traffic violations, and this ruling will not change how CHP officers view distracted driving.
"I do think it leaves it up in the air for Google Glass wearers," said Concidine. "They have to wear it with the possibility that they may get a ticket that they'll have to fight until a legislator takes some sort of action."
Three states have already drafted laws that specifically ban Google Glass while driving: Delaware, West Virginia and New Jersey.


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As you may imagine, this subject is all over the news here in SoCal... I'm already starting to turn the channel every time the story repeats as it's beginning to get to me.

IMHO, I'm sad this woman was let off for speeding due to a technicality which was the original offense. As you read in the CNN article, there was no real change or position taken in terms of how Google Glass does or does not relate to distracted driving when they are on -- that is all yet TBD. (As much as the owners may not like it, maybe Google needs to connect a red LED to the front of the glasses so people being filmed and law enforcement have a way to know if the device is on or not. Geeeessss, this is reminding me of the Terminator or Hal from 2001. Remember their eyeball? )


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