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Quick update: Spyders in and looking good! 7507 PY21W replacing the turn signals! Still have to figure out how to align the things properly (mostly how to reach the silly adjustment screws) but I love the DRL's working with the SmartTop setting. Looking at this thread for clues on adjustments. If anyone has a better way to reach the adjuster nuts, please let me know but this is a great help to start me/

https://www.slkworld.com/general-modi...ent-photo.html


Bunches of thanks for to everyone who took the time and energy to walk me through the process here. Without all the support I never would have attempted it. More later and some observations about the process but they look pretty cool. Thanks.
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UPDATE: New Spyder headlights still providing the DRL I was looking for but -- after what I consider a very short time installed I've already encountered a burned out high beam. Purchased from dtmoto (eBay) in May, installed in June and high beams rarely used, I'm disappointed to have it happen. Equally disappointed to hear from dtmoto that their "warranty" is only 30 days.

Dtmoto says the high beams are H1 55W (H7 low beam). Sales page says "Osram Sylvania" but that's about all. Is this different from the H1 Silverstar? Here's the webpage if it can give anyone a clue.

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Almost a year since this last post so its time for an update. Appears that the low beam I thought had burned out was just loose, Tightened by someone who had better access than me and all seems to be working. DRL's activated by the SmartTop are terrific. Work as advertised.

Never satisfied, though, my quest now is to identify reliable, error-free high and low beam LED's. Obviously they need to work with the CANBUS. Though the halogens that came in the Spyder units work fine, they seem inconsistent with the LED DRL's and I'd like a better range of coverage and a more consistent appearance. Replaced the turn signal lamps with LED before the units were installed and since that's a major production I'd like to replace all the headlight lamps at once.

If anyone has a link to the LED's I need, please send it along. Thanks.
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I, too, have been looking to change out my headlight assemblies to something with a DRL.

Has anyone here tried these ?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/M-BENZ-2005...G/192950124454

They talk a good game and the seller has very good feedback BUT. :-)
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I, too, have been looking to change out my headlight assemblies to something with a DRL.

Has anyone here tried these ?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/M-BENZ-2005...G/192950124454

They talk a good game and the seller has very good feedback BUT. :-)
Oh look, another eBay seller that uses a picture of my car for their ad. Here's where they ripped it off from:


https://www.slkworld.com/309432-post60.html


But yeah, those are just black Spyder/Sonar headlamps
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I had installed the Depo headlight fixture however one of the projector headlight adjuster became mis-alligned and they had to be removed.


I decided to modify the OEM Hella Headlight fixture with Bi-Zenon projectors. This project is not something everyone would do however being retired and a little crazy I have the time.



Hella Halogen Headlight Fixture to installation of Morimoto EVO-XR 2.0 Bi-Xenon projector into the base model Hella Halogen Headlight Fixture.
Purchase 2, Morimoto EVO-XR 2.0 Bi-Xenon Projector, Hylux 2A88 Canbus Ballast, wiring harness with boot, Morimoto led load resistors, Morimoto Xchange drivers, Morimoto DS2 bulbs and Morimoto Retro Rubber Butyl Glue..

1. Disconnect wiring from headlight and remove headlight from vehicle, as per video, (
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2. Bake Headlight fixture in the oven (
) at approximately 245 Fahrenheit for 20 minutes, once the adhesive softens separate headlight.
3. Unscrew and remove OEM projector and adjustment mechanism, from the OEM Hella fixture.

4. Inspect wires for any damage and repair if necessary.

5. Modify Morimoto EVO-XR 2.0 Bi-Xenon projector by cutting or grinding off, the lower raised mount and leveling it. Drill out for the OEM mounting screws.
6. Install Morimoto EVO-XR 2.0 Bi-Xenon projector, into the fixture and attach headlight adjustment mechanism as the OEM projector was connected.

7. Drill out rear plastic cover install HID wiring harness to the Morimoto EVO-XR 2.0 Bi-Xenon projector and connect through the rear cover where the ballast will be connected. Install the OEM Shrouds by removing Ľ” of material at the rear of the Shroud and cutting a small cutouts where the shroud comes in contact with the lens mounting rails, until if fits in tightly and use superglue or JB weld to retain Shroud on the metal lens cover. Install Morimoto HD resistor to ground and high beam lead wire. (Not to have an error on dashboard).

8. Prepare and clean the internal and external OEM plastic cover install rubber sealer and heat oven to soften sealer to place the light fixture back together using spring clamps.
9. Reinstall modified OEM Hella headlight fixture into vehicle, reinstall bumper and adjust headlight Heights. Done.
10. It was a bit of work retrofitting the Bi-Xenon lenses into the OEM fixture (not something everyone would do) but well worth it at night as anyone that has driven the vehicle with Stock Halogen headlights can attest are not the best. The retrofit is well worth it in regards to vehicle drivability at night a really amazing transformation.
Additional DRL Retrofit:

I also installed DRL’s into the empty High Beam location. The DRL’s work with the ignition switch, and turn off when normal headlight and turn signals or emergency lights are engaged. Using 9006 Led bulb with 2 Morimoto X Change Switchback Drivers, one on each side of the vehicle by connecting a wire from the hot & ground from the headlight turn signal bulb wiring when the Fixture was opened to the 2 Morimoto X Change Switchback Driver which turns off the DRL’s when the respective turn signal or emergency flashers are in operation. I did the same with headlight low beam wiring, when the headlights are engaged an SPDT relay is wired into low beam headlight wires to turn off the DRL’s when headlights are in operation. This is done by wiring add a fuse to front Sam to a fuse which is powered by the ignition key to power the DRL’s. When the headlights are in operation the SPDT relay is engaged and it turns power off to the DRL’s, only one headlight low beam wiring needs to be connected to the SPDT relay.

I get no errors on dashboard...... I understand this modification is somewhat involved.
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...I decided to modify the OEM Hella Headlight fixture with Bi-Zenon projectors. ...
Really nice work! Not for the faint of heart, but you got a good result.
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It wasn't really that much work to do it just a lot of time. The issue is finding the correct components that will work with the vehicle's electrical system. It was an experiment and project, I was not sure it would work and I never seen anyone bake open SLK Hella Halogen Fixtures and retrofit Bi-X projectors into them. For example, when testing the Morimoto projector with the vehicle the Low beam was great no issues, however with the High beam engaged, the relay in the projector controlling the flap kept turning on and off continuously plus there was a high beam bulb out on the dash. I had to find a way for this to stop, in order to install the fixtures. I went through various devices as anti flicker modulators of which none worked. (I was lucky to have a company called Lightwerkz in NJ, USA that worked with me and was very supportive). I decided to try a resistor to fool the vehicle computer in thinking a halogen bulb was in the High beam location and it worked even though that the main issue was the flashing of the relay activating the High beam flap continuously. The resistors were $12 for 2 I think. So it was not a lot of hard work or money just figuring what will work with the vehicle. I think the whole project cost about $300 to complete for both fixtures. The results are outstanding when comparing the brightness and consistency of the HID light with the Stock Halogen Unit. I have even compared the light output to stock 2010 E Class with HID fixtures and the Morimoto's are brighter and the cutoff line is more detailed. I have a 2005 SLK, and even if you have a last year model everything in that vehicle has10 year old technology. The advancements in these types of projectors & bulbs have come a long way in the last 10 / 15 years. If anyone has those halogen fixtures and they have the ability to complete this retrofit with new technology Bi-X projectors , well the only thing I can say is ....it's nice being able to see at night.
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Really nice work! Not for the faint of heart, but you got a good result.
You have you projetor NOW for many years if I am counting right :-).

How and do you still like the upgrade ?
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The only reason I posted my modification was because the title indicated DRL's other than Spyder which mine is. I had first installed Depo replacement fixtures unfortunately they didn't really work out well for me one broke. When I had the Depo fixtures in vehicle one of the bulbs burnt out and had to replace it. That was a major undertaking for me, trying to get my hands into that fixture manipulating that H7 clip and replacing all the wires through the rear cover just to replace that bulb. I have found basically almost all aftermarket fixtures used the H7 projector. After that experience, I looked for a better system where I could just replace the bulb instead of all the wires and the bulb. That's when I decided to do this project and install a projector that uses the D2S where all that needs to be done is replace the bulb turn the D2S mount and done. I'm not saying that these aftermarket fixtures are bad they just did not work for me and to inform others there are alternate options out there.


I didn't mean to hijack this post. Sorry if I did.


jrcorral if you are asking me? This is a summer car for me and this is the first season that I have them in the vehicle all I can say it is an incredible upgrade to what I had... really amazing.



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Actually, I was asking Durkation because he has had the Spyder Sonar units for a few years now. But Thank you.

For your input.
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You have you projetor NOW for many years if I am counting right :-).

How and do you still like the upgrade ?
Hiya, yes, I've gone through several sets of Spyders. Started with the chrome ones, then quickly moved to the black. Later on I installed another brand-new set of blacks because the original set was showing severe "crazing" on the transparent part of the housing.

The second black set also had the crazing to some extent and I resigned myself to just having to replace the entire unit every few years to keep them looking good. I'm not sure if I just got unlucky or what was going on, because not everyone that had these things was complaining about this problem. I live in a very sunny area, but almost always keep the car covered (garaged at home, bottom floor of underground parking at work), but nonetheless was having this issue.

The second set of black Spyders went with the car when it was wrecked. I got the 55 and immediately installed another set of black Spyders on that one. This set I've had for 3 years now and there is absolutely no sign of the crazing effect on the housings. Did Spyder/Sonar switch to a better plastic? Not sure. I'm happy with this latest set though!


The problem with Spyders that everyone *does* seem to experience sooner or later, is the 6-LED strip going out after a while because the voltage converter goes bad. Luckily this is something that can be resolved with a simple replacement unit that I actually make for people and sell at cost. It's nice that the part that goes bad is a discrete unit that's held onto the back of the housing with 2 screws .


Overall I love these lights and I think they look much better than stock especially the black/smoked ones.
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Thanks for reply. I just got a pair for my '06 55. Got them for free :-). Short story but more of a private message kind of thing.

Any way got the black ones my 55 is black. And since you seem to have the most experience with them wanted to reach out and

see if I should be wary of any issues. Thanks you for the insight. I will make sure to coat them with Meguiar's G17804

Keep Clear Headlight Coating, my friend with a detailing business swears by this stuff. We are in the SF Bay Area so the sun is

only destructive for the most part May to Oct. Also got a "smart top" as well for the same price. :-) Once I have them in will

post pictures and I will keep you in mind should the lower LEDs go out. :-) Again, Thank You.



PS. one of the things I noticed was this latest generation now comes with all bulbs included. Most of You Tube fitting vids show

transfering bulbs and ballasts.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/M-BENZ-2005...72.m2749.l2649
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I *think* the halogen versions always came with all the bulbs, but the HID version has to have ballasts and bulbs transplanted from the stock lights.
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hello all my buddy is looking for new lights as well and would love to have your take on these! or an suggestions

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Mercedes-Ben...75.c100623.m-1
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hello all my buddy is looking for new lights as well and would love to have your take on these! or an suggestions

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Mercedes-Ben...75.c100623.m-1
Tell your buddy to join the forum, post his car details and location in his profile (Canada is kinda big--10 million sq km--and doesn't help) and more knowledgeable folks can assist
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hello all my buddy is looking for new lights as well and would love to have your take on these! or an suggestions

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/Mercedes-Ben...75.c100623.m-1
Yeah, those are the chrome versions of the lights we're discussing here. The monster thread on these lights is here:


https://www.slkworld.com/general-mod...eadlights.html
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I *think* the halogen versions always came with all the bulbs, but the HID version has to have ballasts and bulbs transplanted from the stock lights.
Correct on the HID spyderlights needing the transplant.


I've actually had a couple issues with mine. After the first 9 months what seems to be an exterior clearcoat started peeling off. I had to remove them and had a local body shop wetsand and re-clearcoat them.


Now (maybe at 4 years in) something on the inside of the lens seems to be crazing. Anyone seen similar?
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I've actually had a couple issues with mine. After the first 9 months what seems to be an exterior clearcoat started peeling off. I had to remove them and had a local body shop wetsand and re-clearcoat them.


Now (maybe at 4 years in) something on the inside of the lens seems to be crazing. Anyone seen similar?
Yup. All the same problems I described having in post #32 in this thread. I've had my current set for 3 years without any of these problems, whereas my previous 2 sets both had the issue.
I was hoping they changed to better materials at some point, but some equally plausible causes might be that 1) I just got lucky with the current set, 2) I take much less care of the current set, i.e. less washing, waxing, polishing, buffing. It's possible that trying to take care of the lights actually accelerates the wear on the "top coat".
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The problem with Spyders that everyone *does* seem to experience sooner or later, is the 6-LED strip going out after a while because the voltage converter goes bad. Luckily this is something that can be resolved with a simple replacement unit that I actually make for people and sell at cost. It's nice that the part that goes bad is a discrete unit that's held onto the back of the housing with 2 screws .

Overall I love these lights and I think they look much better than stock especially the black/smoked ones.
By the way, thanks again for making up those replacement voltage converters Durk! Mine worked great.
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