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Hacking of keys?

Apologies if someone already posted this.

Apparently, BMWs are susceptible to being hacked and the theif creating a duplicate key.

Hackers steal BMWs in 3 minutes using security loophole - Technolog on msnbc.com

My concern: This is a weakness that logically our MBs could be vulnerable to. Anyone have insight into whether this would work on our cars and if there is anything we can do to foil it?

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In both cases, I see the thieves push the car away, maybe to a nearby tow truck. It does not look like they managed to start the car at all. My question is how they would activate the ODB2 port without having to rewire it for power and then to generate the code for the key fob?

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I don't know much about how car ignition systems work but a parallel example is the USB peripheral. There can be a powered USB port and one that's not. Maybe they have a device that gives power to the car via the port. They must have an inside person on the payroll - like someone who works at a legit bmw service center in on it.

it seems that BMWs are the most targeted... if you look to see how many BMWs there are on the road vs MBs, at least here in the SF Bay Area, there is a maybe 3:1 or 5:2 BMW:MB ratio. It's kind of like the Toyota Camry, so easy to unload parts from the cars.

Also, as far as the MBs go, the SLK, SL, SLS lines are much less common than the C or E classes. Thieves tend to go for more popular vehicles since there is more of a demand for them intact as well as for spare parts.

For prevention, I am not sure what MB is going to do. Best bet is to chain your 200 lb Great Dane to your car when it's parked... be sure to leave about 100 ft of chain so it can pounce on any evildoers nearby who wish to illegally procure any such vehicle that happens to have a canine alarm system installed in it.

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In both cases, I see the thieves push the car away, maybe to a nearby tow truck. It does not look like they managed to start the car at all. My question is how they would activate the ODB2 port without having to rewire it for power and then to generate the code for the key fob?

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posted about it yesterday see my thread " another reason not to buy a BMW

They can start the car and drive it away. BMW's are particularly prone to it due to the location of the on board diagnostics
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Best bet is to chain your 200 lb Great Dane to your car when it's parked... be sure to leave about 100 ft of chain so it can pounce on any evildoers nearby who wish to illegally procure any such vehicle that happens to have a canine alarm system installed in it.


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... great dane, rottweiler, doberman, boxer, chihuahua... any of these will do...
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The problem has also been attributed to an EU ruling which allows independent garages to service vehicles. These dealers can then gain access to the equipment which allows the keys to be reprogrammed.

Be interesting to get more details - 'tis one of the reasons why MB makes blanks almost impossible to get, and I don't believe they are allowing anyone to have access to the key programmer...





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ohh wow- and wow- I think they need to correct the flaw in that ruling then. Folks getting their vehicles stolen isn't a happy ending when allowing independents access.

I'm glad MB is on top of vehicle security!
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According to the reports, its mostly BMW's and owners of old cars like me have no need to worry as the car isnt worth stealing for gain
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a 2006 slk isn't old! it's the mileage, not the age!

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According to the reports, its mostly BMW's and owners of old cars like me have no need to worry as the car isnt worth stealing for gain
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In the UK there are two sorts of car thieves. The Joy Riders who are kids and wouldnt have a clue how to hot wire an SLK, and the Pro who steals to sell on and only goes for newish cars and ones that they can ring. Ho do you ring a periclase SLK they are as rare as rocking horse manure
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Well - that's only if you are in the market for rocking horse €®@₷

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In the UK there are two sorts of car thieves. The Joy Riders who are kids and wouldnt have a clue how to hot wire an SLK, and the Pro who steals to sell on and only goes for newish cars and ones that they can ring. Ho do you ring a periclase SLK they are as rare as rocking horse manure
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