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ok, so I let loose a little today :)

My car now has 3250km on it since Apr 1. I've driven it fairly gingerly.

Today? Different story. Weather was fairly decent. Low wind, intermitent cumulus clouds and 25 C.

My wife wanted me to drop off an order of soap to a client downtown. I said to myself...."Self. The Smart? or The SLK?" Normally to do an errand I use the Smart....Today? Different story.

Drove downtown with the SLK and did the delivery. On the way back I decided to drop by and see an old school friend. She hadn't yet ridden in the SLK. So we went for a little....ok... long cruise. It seems she wanted to revisit the past when I was 16 and had a '74 Chevy Nova. It had a 283 that my Dad and I rebuilt. We had lots of fun in that car ripping around town.....

so... back to today's story (brought to you by Mercedes Benz)

We cruised around enjoying the top down and looking for anything... I mean ANYTHING to race. So here's a list of some of the cars I destroyed. I agree a lot of it was senseless like beating up a quadariplegic (spelling corrected) but fun like the first time you snuck out of your house

  • Honda civic (umm, 3 or 4 of those)
  • Toyota MR2 supercharged. He actually got the drop on me because I didn't see him whip up on me coming on to the Henday (The Henday is a local freeway here in Edmonton)
  • 4 or 5 diesel trucks ( I don't really care if it's pushing 600 hp. It still weighs 5 tonnes)
  • Porsche 911 (ok.... he didn't want to race, but I still took off from the lights and got a 3 or 4 car lengths on him.... I'll selfishly take the points for it)
  • A Mustang gt that kept up not too badly. I think he might've had some mods done.
  • A new charger SRT8 (not a challenger). He did pretty well too, just not enough oomph
  • A beretta LTZ
  • let's see what else was there......
  • oh yeah. A totally pimped out H2. I didn't think he was gonna take off at the green light but he went for it so I punched it
  • an 80's camaro. It said IROC on the side but I'm suspicious. I think it was a v6 car with the IROC body on it because I annihilated it off the lights.
  • There was an older cordoba. The driver was cool. He pulled up to the lights and said "Nice car. You wanna beat me at a race?" So I obliged It was a REALLY nice car too.
  • and last but not least was an RX-7. We both pulled off the Henday onto 50th street and I asked him at the lights if it was done up. He said we was pushing 400 RWHP. Either he missed a shift or was fibbing because I had him a little off the start, he seemed to be pulling pretty good and then tapered off a bit. Maybe he just decided he didn't want to punch it. I thought we were gonna get to go at it at the next set of lights but he ended up punching it through the lights when it turned yellow.
and yes. I'll be the first one to give myself crap for driving like a retard. However, I did keep the racing to short bursts... well... except on the Henday there's lots of room for speed there.... and yes it was hella fun.

Now my car is dirty and I have to spend all day tomorrow wiping it all down and givin' it another coat of zaino

Then I can resume driving it like an old man again

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Sounds like a fun day. I don't usually get to drive much, hopefully there's some decent weather tomorrow!
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Awesome write up!

Was a glorious day, with actual sunshine in the UK today. Wifey and I cruised around a bit today enjoying the top-down goodness.

No police actually risking life and limb in traffic, two new mobile speed traps, usual 6 speed cameras, but hey, life is good at 50mph. All in all a glorious morning - just gotta figure out what I'm going to do for the speed camera's - I don't like having to have my TomTom on the console just to remind me!



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Even better weather today, but I was really busy doing inventory with my wife. I managed to wipe down the car and get all the bugs off. Took it for a quick cruise for milk. +27C

Driving it like an old man again.

Is it weird to derive pleasure from driving the speed limit in a car that was built to break it??
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hello there from Edmonton =)
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Hey back. A fellow Edmontonian. I added you to my friends list
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Eye rock!

Yeah but you had fun right? That's all that matters!

Actually, a 1986 IROC-Z Camaro only had 215 hp on a good day with a stiff wind. I had the 145 HP 2.8L V6 version with the Level III IROC suspension and brake package that I bought off a guy who bought it as an autocross special. Cassette, power locks and AC were the only options, 5-Speed manual. A buddy had the IROC-Z and I was able to jump the line and get in front of him at 30 MPH and shut him down with my 2.8L.

A Fiero? Really? COOL! Send me info! I've had 4 of them. 2 of them being rare, (yellow 88 GT, 1 of 241, 88 GT with T-Tops and 5-speed - I hold 2 lap records against 2 Audi S4 Quattro's in rain at Homestead in that car. That one now has a chromed LT1 'Vette V8 and is now in Chicago)

Funny enough coming out of Fiero GT's, my drive of an SLK55 reminded me of his IROC-Z. Lots of growl (although none of the shake) far more push in the seat, but the same feeling when you approached a curve that you had a boat anchor up front and no weight in the back, and it just did not want to rotate that easliy.

PS: The Berretta LTZ had the 2.8L from Camaro / Fiero, but without the tubular headers so they only made 135 HP.

I find one thing about your story fishy. The MR2 Supercharged. Their tranny's only lasted maximum about 40,000 miles as they were not rated for the power (Toyota did the SC to combat Fiero's '88 suspension.) Either you happened on a low mileage one, or one that has it's 4th or 5th tranny in it! Lord knows, they probably blew that one out trying to catch up to you!

The RX-7 is easy to explain. Unless he went off the line with the engine already spinning above 4,000 RPM, I don't care if he had the Japanese 3 rotor tuned to 750 bhp, it is a dog! Torque win's the line, HP is top speed. Rotaries have no torque. Just like an S-2000, miss a shift, let the revs drop and you just can't recover.

Let's see, I have the following notables, but they knew we were racing or initiated it:

1. BMW M3 previous to current V8 generation, up to 50 MPH speed limit.
2. Carrera S up to 45 MPH speed limit.
3. Z06 Corvette up to 45 MPH speed limit.
4. Shelby GT500 up until 35 MPH. Then he pulled away to the 50 MPH limit.
5. Ferrari F430 Coupe (Left Side) Ferrari F430 Spyder (Right Side) Toll-both from 40 MPH to 120MPH. I kept right up with them and one gave me the thumbs up. My other half grabbed the dashboard screamed "NO! THIS IS NOT THE AUTOBAHN" and almost killed me.
6. SLK55 from 50 to 100 MPH. NEVER initiate a race and underestimate the power of someone who has their manual in the right gear already, thinking you can stomp it and "auto mode" will compensate in time.
7. Miata hard top. Ass wanted to repeat that You Tube Video of putting his top down and taking off before the SLK top finished. Little did he know I have a smart top module and started off, albeit slowly, right away!
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I will advise all SLK owners...any RX-7 putting down 400 rwhp will rape a stock SLK55 (they are low 11 sec cars trapping ~ 127 mph on street tires). And no, you do not launch an RX-7 at 4,000 rpm (this would induce a twin tire smoking burnout from LA to Kansas...3,000 rpm is the sweet spot for an optimal launch). And no, 400 rwhp rotary twin turbo cars are not torqueless. They have ~ 310 rwtq in a 2,700 - 2,800 lbs car (the same an SLK55 .....but the car weighs ~ 800 lbs LESS - you do the math).

To the OP, glad you are having fun with your AMG. Just watch out for the local law enforcement.

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You must have killer reaction time - I was eaten alive by a stock Z06 from 0-60 in the '55 I was gonna pick up - he didn't even have to shift - and the damned thing weighs all of 3,100 lbs.

Don't see how that math works out - 3100lbs @ 500hp vs 3200lbs @ 268?



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Here's my math

1 SLK (any version) + 1 Driver + 1 other car * racing * speed = fun
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Here's my math

1 SLK (any version) + 1 Driver + 1 other car * racing * speed = fun

'tis *very* true!



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You must have killer reaction time - I was eaten alive by a stock Z06 from 0-60 in the '55 I was gonna pick up - he didn't even have to shift - and the damned thing weighs all of 3,100 lbs.

Don't see how that math works out - 3100lbs @ 500hp vs 3200lbs @ 268?
Yes, I am very, very good at launches. Also, we only went to 45. If everythign else was being equal gearing alone could acount for him expotentionally blowing by me up to and past 60. Up to 30 or 35 MPH, everything is dictated by how well you managed your wheelspin and kept it in the torque.

3,000 RPM? Maybe your expierence with Gen III RX-7 is not one with larger, shaved, racing tires and Japanese 3 rotor engine. I have not personally launched one, I am just going by what a fellow racer who has one had told me.

11 seconds? Really? On the street, on street tires, on your way to get a gallon of milk, and you put down an 11 second time going by the timing of the stoplight? Now THAT'S impressive. God-like even!

I think we're confuse racing stats by people who know what they are doing in a controlled environment, in a purposefull situation with what happens when you are having fun and there are many variables. What is the possiblilty that the person who wants to race me has had the formal race training and the expierence racing that I have? What is the chance that they have had that actual car on any track and have practiced the perfect wheelspin launch as I have?

How about this? How about this fat old guy in an Mercedes revs his engine and gets your testosterone up, and there's no way that geek in that fag car can match you, and I lay it down. If I can made a Hospice Priest have so much Red Mist he spins out off the track (Formula 2000 cars at Lime Rock) chances are I can psych you out and make you blow a launch.
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Yes, I am very, very good at launches. Also, we only went to 45. If everythign else was being equal gearing alone could acount for him expotentionally blowing by me up to and past 60. Up to 30 or 35 MPH, everything is dictated by how well you managed your wheelspin and kept it in the torque.

3,000 RPM? Maybe your expierence with Gen III RX-7 is not one with larger, shaved, racing tires and Japanese 3 rotor engine. I have not personally launched one, I am just going by what a fellow racer who has one had told me.

11 seconds? Really? On the street, on street tires, on your way to get a gallon of milk, and you put down an 11 second time going by the timing of the stoplight? Now THAT'S impressive. God-like even!

I think we're confuse racing stats by people who know what they are doing in a controlled environment, in a purposefull situation with what happens when you are having fun and there are many variables. What is the possiblilty that the person who wants to race me has had the formal race training and the expierence racing that I have? What is the chance that they have had that actual car on any track and have practiced the perfect wheelspin launch as I have?

How about this? How about this fat old guy in an Mercedes revs his engine and gets your testosterone up, and there's no way that geek in that fag car can match you, and I lay it down. If I can made a Hospice Priest have so much Red Mist he spins out off the track (Formula 2000 cars at Lime Rock) chances are I can psych you out and make you blow a launch.
As mentioned, a 400 rwhp RX-7 will not only destroy an SLK55 in acceleration - it would absolutely crush an SLK350. In all likelihood, someone driving a modded 400 rwhp RX-7 is not going to be "inexperienced" (if they built the car to 400 rwhp specs - they are far from neophytes/bench racers).

And yes, low elevens are easily obtainable on street tires with 400 rwhp. Here is a 3rd Gen with 60 LESS rwhp running an 11.19 @ 124 on DRs....http://www.dragtimes.com/Mazda-RX-7-Timeslip-14792.html. Unless there is a monkey at the wheel, it would be hard not to stay in the low elevens. The differenece between an aggressive Y rated or R compound street tire & DRs has faded significantly - there is now little separation between the two. FWIW, RX-7s launch well as they have perfect 50/50 weight distribution, a low center of gravity, & have adequate (but not too much) torque down low for great launches.

You spoke of a triple rotor (ie known as a "20B" set up). An RX-7 with a triple rotor, depending on turbo size (ie T-88) & proper porting/dyno tune, develop pretty large HP & torque numbers (640 rwhp - 900 rwhp). You do not want to pull up next to one (they are extremly rare).

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Great dialog and stories.

You all need to let YellowSlk tell HER Driving Let Loose story from this weekend!!!
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In all likelihood, someone driving a modded 400 rwhp RX-7 is not going to be "inexperienced" (if they built the car to 400 rwhp specs - they are far from neophytes/bench racers).
I disagree. The spec of the car has no proportional relation to the skill of the driver.


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You spoke of a triple rotor (ie known as a "20B" set up). An RX-7 with a triple rotor, depending on turbo size (ie T-88) & proper porting/dyno tune, develop pretty large HP & torque numbers (640 rwhp - 900 rwhp). You do not want to pull up next to one (they are extremly rare).

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Why wouldn't I want to pull up next to one? I'd love to pull up to any fast, beautiful, rare, outstanding car.

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I disagree. The spec of the car has no proportional relation to the skill of the driver.




Why wouldn't I want to pull up next to one? I'd love to pull up to any fast, beautiful, rare, outstanding car.

Bring on the Yellow SLK stories!
Unlike other standard piston powered cars, obtaining 400 rwhp in a 3rd Gen RX-7 takes someone with serious rotary knowledge & dedication (and they are RARE). Sooo, you can disagree, but I'd say I know a bit more. My brother & I have built & ported more than 900 12A & 13B rotary blocks for 1st, 2nd, & 3rd gen RX-7 during the past 27 years. I'm a bit more versed about what rotary powerplants are on the street & their typical ownership. Driving Monkeys don't know how to build a 400+ rwhp RX-7, they are too poor to afford it, or it's a combination thereof. If, in the highly unlikely event a Monkey obtains one, they wrap the car around a tree or deposit the car into a ditch within a week of ownership. It's too much power housed in too light a car for a driving neophyte (I've witnessed it along with other rotary builders like PFS, KD Rotary, & a few others).

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