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Got back from my European Delivery trip.

It was AMAZING.

I'd post photos, but the website administrator blocked my IP address.
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I forgot to mention, I am now the proud owner of a beastly

2007 SLK55 AMG

Storm Red
Black/Ash

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Ipod Integration
MB BlueTooth

And because my car was just built, I have some slight differences on mine that carry over into the 2008 cars.
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WHat things are slightly different ?
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What a mean thing to do. STORM RED is MY COLOR, MINE. Plz show the pics, I love that color. Congats.
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And because my car was just built, I have some slight differences on mine that carry over into the 2008 cars.
Congratulations! You got our attention with the above statement. Specifically, what's different? Post pics ASAP.
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Congradulations, what was carried over from the 2008 cars ?
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There are ways out there to "anonymize" an IP address, but I preffer not to post usernames and passwords through them. You certainly wouldn't want to check your bank balance through an anonymizer. This forum is a little different, so I can login and post comments. The only downside is that the anonymizer limits data, and a few 100k in graphics on a post will stall.

Needless to say Storm Red replaces 2005-2006 Firemist. The Storm Red is a little darker. I was very nervous when I was picking up my car, because I have never seen either color when I placed my order back in October 2006.

The late 2007 build differences are interesting, and may provide some knowledge on other common questions:

1. Center Console Armrest: There's only one lid. It lifts from the front to the back and is very deep. The left/right "hidden" compartment for the phone is GONE. Instead the deep compartment has a little shelf, at about a 35 degree angle, where the phone clips in. Presumably they did this to save money and to make better use of that space since most people are converting to BlueTooth pucks anyway. I actually like this new design, because that center console doesn't lock when the top is down, only the glovebox locks.

2. S/C/M button for the shift programming:

C is for "comfort," but when I was taking delivery at the factory, they were explaining to me that C is a pre-programmed shift pattern and it DOES NOT LEARN in this mode. It's basically a predictable program, and I like that. It still starts off in 2nd, which is a good thing, beacuse I have never driven this car in the rain and one morning I accidentally lit my tires pulling out of a driveway, and I wasn't even trying!

S is for "standard" and it learns to change the shift pattern based on how heavy or light you may be on the throttle. The learning process, or the "change" in the pattern takes place after 30 seconds of a particular driving style. I have always hated adapting transmissions, and I still don't care for this. Just make S "balls out" mode and I'll be very happy.

M is for "manual" this is a no-brainer here. Shift gears and hold them until your next change. The car will not do anything for you except return to 1st gear when you have stopped. Change gears with the paddles or the gear shift.

3. Airscarf: You may already know this... when you activate Airscarf at level 3, the seat is producing maximum heat. Level two reduces the heat. Livewise, level one is the least amount of heat. The fan speed, in either heat level, automatically adjusts based on road speed. So level 3 doesn't mean it blows any faster than level 1, it's just hotter. From my personal experience, level 2 feels like someone's breathing on the back of my neck... if you take in your surroundings, the speed and the sound of that engine, combined with the size of the cockpit, it feels like an Axe Muderer is breathing on me. What a thrilling car!

When I took delivery in Stuttgart, I drove to Frankfurt, Cologne, Amsterdam, and finally, Bremerhaven. Getting the chance to check out each city was great. Amsterdam, with its tiny streets jam packed with pedestrians and cyclists, and menacing canals (which make it tricky to park) was the best city to cruise in an SLK, especially an AMG.

When I was done and ready to ship the car back, I had 900 miles on the clock. When I picked up the car from the factory, it already had 65 miles. I remember someone complaining on a MB board before about the "high" miles for a new delivery at a dealer... well, I had 65 at the factory. Since AMG cars are built on the same line in the plant, there's no excess transporting going on. However, they do pull about 2% of their freshly made daily cars and take it on a test drive to check it all out. Obviously, they drove mine, probably heard a squeak, and had to tweak it, then drive it again. Then repeat about 5 more times with others to verify that everything has been corrected! That's what I would do with this car!

I will create another post about the trip. It was a blast and I will ALWAYS do EDP.
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Sounds like you had a blast, yes EDP is a great way to introduces yourself to a Mercedes or to pickup another MB. Post pics when you get a chance, would love to see your AMG in it's surroundings.

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Does your 07 55 have the small splash guards on the rear wheel fender openings?

They are about 12" long and about 3/4" thick are are stuck on with double sided tape and are painted. I think MB calls them wide trim.

My 350 had them and most of the 2007 I have seen also have them but my 07 55 did not.

I called MB customer service and got the typical run around with the response being they wouldn't have released the car if something like that was missing. I actually don't think they would tell me if they made a mistake or not.

I also tried the dealer but they didn't have a clue about what I was talking about. They thought I wanted mud flaps.

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those ARE mud flaps. Some cars are fitted with them, some aren't, it's a combination of where you are, and what tires you are running. Personally, i don't like them, and i removed them from my car. Do you want them?
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yeah, they are small mud flaps, not as noticable as the big black ones, they are small and painted. It helps a little with rocks, etc. It came with my AMG pkg SLK350 but I've seen it on non-kitted SLK's, don't recall it being an optional, came on my 06'.


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Thanks for the response and the offer but I will pass.

I have to agree I actually like the slk better with out them.

Just wanted to know for myself and to make sure that I received everything I paid for when the car was delivered. Trying to get a straight anwser from the dealer or MB in next to impossable.

I have seen new 07 MY cars that I know were built and delivered after mine with the same tire brand that have the mud flaps, still don't understand why some do and some don't.

Just makes you question what else is missing that you can't see.

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In2dww - Thanks for the interesting information on the updated changes to the late model 2007s. I admire those that take EDP. It would be a wonderful experience even without picking up a new SLK, but that makes it the BEST! One day, I'll have more time. What is the estimated arrival date of your new SLK 55?
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Good info mate.

"S is for "standard" not too sure about that. I've always read it and heard it as sports, comfort and manual. recently an amg spokes person said C was for rain and snowy conditions. Although I tried it in snow with chains and it was useless with esp on in C mode. anyhow, [S] gear changes are 30% faster than C and [M] has 50% faster gear changes. Although I couldn't ever get used to red line limit in manual so I still use S mode on the track.

I'd miss the twin centre box. I dont have a phone and use the upper panel for things i need quick access to all the time and the lower big bin for less essential items. I love the twin direction opening and think its a bad move if this has changed.

Also manual will drop gears if in high gears at low speed. I.e 7th at below 40.

Never new the fan speed changed at varying speeds. wonder if that is a new thing.

How long did you get on pick-up. also is this optional. ould you take it away for a months drive round the alpes?
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Dealers here also call it "Sports" instead of "Standard". On other cars that have just C/S (ie. NON-AMGs) it's Comfort/Sports.
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I landed in Munich, spent the day and overnighted. I then took the ICE speed train to Stuttgart. As predicted, there were BMW's aplenty in Munich, and it really wasn't a city for me. Munich wasn't the Germany I expected, and really left a bad impression on me.

Stuttgart was better. Picking up the car at the Mercedes Sindelfingen (sp?) plant was fantastic. The procedure was so interesting... all I wanted to to was get in the car and go, but you have to take the tour if you've never done it and you have to do some paperwork before you even get introduced to your car. They have a self-service cafe on the second floor that overlooks the delivery area. I was there on a busy day. It was so busy, I didn't get out of there until 5pm. They close at 4.

When I got the car, I went right back to the Graf Zepplin hotel (courtesy of MB). The hotel is nice, but I would pass it by on my next EDP.

The next day I went to Affalterbach to walk through the AMG facility. I received a nice personal tour and had the opporunity to view and observe their engine production. WOW! AMG used to offer tours to anyone, now you must own an AMG and make a reservation if you want to have a look. They also showed me their AMG workshop, where they customize all Mercs. I saw a few SLK Blacks in there... which are made by hand at that workshop (after being assembled in the factory in Bremen).

I then hit the road and went to Frankfurt. I was starting to enjoy my trip at this point, because I got to experience some flat-out autobahning and some excellent espresso at the cafe's. Frankfurt is a big city, and the river really makes for some interesting one-way streets and traffic. I noticed that the engine was starting to run rough... it was just loading up, so I took a less congested street and blew her out a little.

After spending the night in Frankfurt, I went to Cologne. I fell in love with Cologne. There are cafe's everywhere, good looking ladies, and people are much more polite (as compared to Munich). The hotel I stayed in was in a nice, historically rich neighborhood. There were also some fun toys on the road... an Aston Martin Vantage, and a SL55, to name a few. So I felt right at home. But I did feel like a poser at one point because the Sat Nav took me through these tiny streets lined with cafes and people (bikes and mopeds included). All I was doing was heading to a parking garage near "the Dom." But I had the top down and we all know how much attention an SLK can get... basically, all I could hear from people walking by was something in German followed by "AMG!" I was a little embarassed but I had tons of fun. As I'm sitting in the car, I could see several people pulling out their camera phones and snapping a pic.

After some good times in Cologne, I went to Amsterdam. Oh my! Same crazy sat nav problem of taking the smallest, most crowded streets, but this time I had to make sure not to take a wrong turn! Since the streets are mostly one-way, you're in for a long re-route to your destination. But the same "AMG!" excitement I heard in Cologne was happening here! More camera phones were coming out, people were even blatantly walking in front of me... to the point that I had to stop, just so that they could take a picture. But luckilly, I stayed at a golf resort just outside the wonderful chaos of Amsterdam. It was great to relax and enjoy everything that Amsterdam had to offer.

Moving on, I ended up dropping the car off in Brmerhaven. This mean that the Sat Nav, luckilly, took me on the same route Jeremy Clarkson took the SLR on that Top Gear Challenge... Holland's biggest dike. So I've got Bob Marley playing on the radio, of course, the top down, and an ocean on the left and a lake on the right, for about what felt like 10 miles or so, followed by unreistricted German autobahn!!!! Fantastic! There were a few spots on the dike to pull over, so I jumped out and whipped out my camera.

But once I got to Bremerhaven, the honeymoon ended. I had to take out the personal items, sign some shipping documents, and hand over a key. Then I had to hear about a 7-8 week period that I would go through serious withdrawal and manic depression. When you drop the car off, don't forget the first aid kit, manual, and warning triangle. The warning triangle is required in Germany, so they had to give me that, but customs in the US confiscates that and the first aid kit, along with anything else "not attached" to the car. I completely forgot to remove the windscreen, so I'll see if they notice!

Ironicaly, the EDP first aid kit "is not to US spec," but it's made in Rock Hill, SC!

I did get to experience other interesting things, such as the McCafe... a surprisingly nice and exteremely high-quality cafe from who else, McDonalds! If there was one in the US, I would certainly have an alternative to that evil, nasty, gross Starbucks.

Some of the drawbacks of doing EDP:
Parking garages are tiny... so don't buy an S-class thinking your not going to park it on the street. And don't think you're parking on the street either. In all of the cities, the S-classes were partially parked on the sidewalk! That should give you an indication on how narrow these streets are in the city/village. There was one garage where I was keenly aware of how wide the SLK55 really is. When you have to do a 70 point turn just to wiggle into a parking space, you'll understand!

Another disappointment... the break-in period is for 1000 miles. There's a huge sticker on the window reminding me not to go over 85 mph and not to exceed 2/3 of the RPM range! I think I was the only Mercedes on the autobahn sitting in the slow lane. I did pass a few tucks and caravans, but I really did take it easy.



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Good info mate.

"S is for "standard" not too sure about that. I've always read it and heard it as sports, comfort and manual. recently an amg spokes person said C was for rain and snowy conditions. Although I tried it in snow with chains and it was useless with esp on in C mode. anyhow, [S] gear changes are 30% faster than C and [M] has 50% faster gear changes. Although I couldn't ever get used to red line limit in manual so I still use S mode on the track.

I'd miss the twin centre box. I dont have a phone and use the upper panel for things i need quick access to all the time and the lower big bin for less essential items. I love the twin direction opening and think its a bad move if this has changed.

Also manual will drop gears if in high gears at low speed. I.e 7th at below 40.

Never new the fan speed changed at varying speeds. wonder if that is a new thing.

How long did you get on pick-up. also is this optional. ould you take it away for a months drive round the alpes?
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Dealers here also call it "Sports" instead of "Standard". On other cars that have just C/S (ie. NON-AMGs) it's Comfort/Sports.
I should clarify. The manual states "sports mode, for standard driving."
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In2dww - Thanks for the interesting information on the updated changes to the late model 2007s. I admire those that take EDP. It would be a wonderful experience even without picking up a new SLK, but that makes it the BEST! One day, I'll have more time. What is the estimated arrival date of your new SLK 55?
The shipping company said 7-8 weeks, but I think it's more like "when the US pulls out if Iraq."

My only saving grace is that I have an existing problem... my E350, which I leased. It's WAY over mileage. So a few days ago I picked up a mint 1993 400e. The 400e has a little hole somewhere in the exhaust, which I'm replacing. But for now, it almost sounds like my topless wonder. So I've puchased some cheap, sketchy fun to keep myself occupied.
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Sounds like a great trip in2dwww, it's amazing how much attention the SLK attracts even in it's motherland. I thought Munich isn't too bad, just like any other big city, people isn't as nice as they are in smaller towns.

The first aid kit isn't US spec b/c it has that huge scissor, take it out and it'll be US spec, forgot to tell you that, I was able to carry my hazard triangle on the plane with no problems. The windscreen is fine, I left mine there, if you didn't then you'll get another one. I also took out my floor mats per members as they are different than the 'US spec' ones. Whatever they see missing in the car, they will give you new ones at the VPC. So if you want two of everything then take everything out.

I don't recommend anything bigger and an E-class for EDP, the roads like you said are very narrow and streets are small, parking spots are hard to come by and parking can be a pain with a big car.

I broke the rule a little, I went 120mph on the autobahn, didn't go faster than that, it was quite the experience.

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Thanks In2dwww and Ynot for information on EDP. What a great opportunity and program. One day! I agree, you finally get to pickup your long awaited SLK, and before you know it, it's time to give it back. Thanks again.
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