oil

mazeka · 08-11-2008

Hi.
1-Does AMG use the same Mobil 1 oil as the dealer has, or is a special oil for the break in period ?

2-is there a difference of extracting the oil or drain it from the plug ?

3-does it help jacking up the car from the front to help extracting all the oil using a pump ?

This thing is a beast ....Cant wait to post some pics soon.....

DansSlk · 08-11-2008

Should be the same Mobil 1 the dealer has, 0W-40.

There's no difference between extracting or draining the oil but draining is preferred because of the stepped oil pan so your unlikely to get all the oil out trying to extract it.

No i wouldn't jack it up the oil will move toward the back of the pan and fall into the dip.

mazeka · 08-11-2008

is it a DIY .
If i am able to get underneath the car is the plug easy to get to Or you have to take few things apart .

In addition,
1- is it true you should replace the plug ech time as well.?
2- what size wrench is needed and at what tourque to you tighten it?
3- is there a special oils filter tool to remove and tighten with.
Thanks.

**etyu** · 08-11-2008

In the US, Mobil1 0W40 and Mobil1 Formula M ESP 5W40 are approved for AMG engines.

DansSlk · 08-11-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by mazeka

is it a DIY .
If i am able to get underneath the car is the plug easy to get to Or you have to take few things apart .

In addition,
1- is it true you should replace the plug ech time as well.?
2- what size wrench is needed and at what tourque to you tighten it?
3- is there a special oils filter tool to remove and tighten with.
Thanks.

You need to remove the undertray to get to the drains but thats just a new nuts to release.

1) No but it is good practice to do so (any washers must be replaced)

2) I forget the size i'm sorry but the torque is 10Nm (not much at all)

3) Yes and the dealer should sell you one.

DansSlk · 08-11-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by etyu

In the US, Mobil1 0W40 and Mobil1 Formula M ESP 5W40 are approved for AMG engines.

Oh yeah i forgot that i'm sorry

mazeka · 08-11-2008

What is the difference between the two
Mobil1 0W40 and Mobil1 Formula M ESP 5W40

DansSlk · 08-11-2008

0W40 operates better at lower tempratures

Tslick · 08-15-2008

What's amusing, 5W40 was developed for diesel engines. The Mobil web site says it's for diesel engines only.

I had my car serviced this week and they put 5W40 in it. I balked so they gave me a copy of a MBUSA news letter (not even a lowly DTB) saying it's approved for all gasoline engines except the SLR.

I'll be asking the AMG folks on the AMGPL during the chat session next week about 5W40.

DansSlk · 08-15-2008

Tom mate i completely agree with you 115%, 0W40 was the original specified and the only one to meet all the right MB sheets.

Like i said when the oil issue was raised a while back this 5W40 is used in many diesel MB's so it probably makes financial sense to use it for as much as possible instead of having to keep multiple drums.

Did you pay for your service? i would have demanded 0W40.

Tslick · 08-15-2008

I found out after I picked up the car from the dealer.

Tslick · 08-15-2008

I posted this before, but why not again. At MBUSA Startekinfo, on the left navigation bar, select MB Workshop Recourses, then Recommended Fluids and select the PDF file dated June 5, 2008.

It states that 0W40 is the only Mobil oil for the AMG... but you have other choices.

http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/

Tslick · 08-20-2008

Rob Allen from MBUSA AMG is going to check if Mobile 1 5W40 is acceptable oil for gasoline engines. He initially stated that Mobile 1 0W40 was it.

**etyu** · 08-21-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tslick

Rob Allen from MBUSA AMG is going to check if Mobile 1 5W40 is acceptable oil for gasoline engines. He initially stated that Mobile 1 0W40 was it.

This was posted in SLKWorld before and I got an email reply from Mercedes-AMG (germany) stating that as long as the oil meets MB spec for 229.5, then it is fine for AMG engines. I forgot who the original poster was on that thread. I'll do a search and post the link.

A recent trip to MB parts at Laguna Niguel following the AMG Performance Tour had them show cases of Mobil1 0W40 and Mobil 1 ESP Formula M 5W40 on display, and the technician states both are fine for the AMG engine.

Moreover, someone knowledgeable on oil etc (works for the industry)in another forum stated that he would prefer the synthetics formulated for diesel engine (if it is approved by the engine manufacturer).

**etyu** · 08-21-2008

Link: http://www.slkworld.com/ask-dansslk/...fss-slk-2.html

post #27

**etyu** · 08-21-2008

Another useful link: http://www.whnet.com/4x4/oil.html

Scroll down towards the bottom of page to see the oils that meet MB spec 229.5 and 229.51 (both diesel and gasoline).

**Zeiser50** · 08-21-2008

Have a look also on message #11 http://www.slkworld.com/caring-your-...ntly-than.html

**alroumi** · 08-21-2008

i use mobile 1 as mercedes recommends. Post some pics of your new car mazeeka.

mazeka · 08-21-2008

I did ...will post some more..
http://www.slkworld.com/slk-r171-gen...7073-pics.html

Tslick · 09-02-2008

I got a response from AMG Info (Germany) at the AMGPL.

There sayin as of June of this year

Mobil 1 5W-40 for M156 engines (6.3 liter)
Mobil 1 0W-40 for all other AMG's including the C30 diesel
Mobil 1 5W-50 for SLR's

Now you know why everyone's confused.

08-11-2008	#1 (permalink)
mazeka Senior SLK World Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Studio City Vehicle: 09 SLk55 Posts: 171 Country: Thanks: 2 Thanked 15 Times in 8 Posts	oil Hi. 1-Does AMG use the same Mobil 1 oil as the dealer has, or is a special oil for the break in period ? 2-is there a difference of extracting the oil or drain it from the plug ? 3-does it help jacking up the car from the front to help extracting all the oil using a pump ? This thing is a beast ....Cant wait to post some pics soon.....

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DansSlk Dude Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wales Vehicle: 05 B55S (Brabus 6.1 S) Posts: 6,752 Country: Thanks: 96 Thanked 221 Times in 173 Posts	Should be the same Mobil 1 the dealer has, 0W-40. There's no difference between extracting or draining the oil but draining is preferred because of the stepped oil pan so your unlikely to get all the oil out trying to extract it. No i wouldn't jack it up the oil will move toward the back of the pan and fall into the dip. __________________ One thing you will learn with German cars - If it's simple it ain't happening.

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etyu Founding Member #2 / Ambassador Of Good Will Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Orange County, CA Vehicle: 2008 SLK 55 Posts: 5,279 Country: Thanks: 376 Thanked 277 Times in 168 Posts	In the US, Mobil1 0W40 and Mobil1 Formula M ESP 5W40 are approved for AMG engines. __________________ *Eddy* To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Pewter/Beige, PIII package, Airscarf, Hands-Free Communication System, Lighting package Designo Black Leather Cover on e-brake handle, ( To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Bill T), SmartTop v1.0, Kleyman 3BFM (NoRegret Custom), Green Air Filters, *Mod. R170 ant.*, EuroClear sidemarkers w/PIAA PlasmaIon lamps, chromed front & rear turn indicator lamps, PIAA SuperPlasmaGTX front parking lamps, bilateral rear fog lamps enabled.

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DansSlk Dude Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wales Vehicle: 05 B55S (Brabus 6.1 S) Posts: 6,752 Country: Thanks: 96 Thanked 221 Times in 173 Posts	0W40 operates better at lower tempratures __________________ One thing you will learn with German cars - If it's simple it ain't happening.

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DansSlk Dude Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wales Vehicle: 05 B55S (Brabus 6.1 S) Posts: 6,752 Country: Thanks: 96 Thanked 221 Times in 173 Posts	Tom mate i completely agree with you 115%, 0W40 was the original specified and the only one to meet all the right MB sheets. Like i said when the oil issue was raised a while back this 5W40 is used in many diesel MB's so it probably makes financial sense to use it for as much as possible instead of having to keep multiple drums. Did you pay for your service? i would have demanded 0W40. __________________ One thing you will learn with German cars - If it's simple it ain't happening.

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mazeka Senior SLK World Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Studio City Vehicle: 09 SLk55 Posts: 171 Country: Thanks: 2 Thanked 15 Times in 8 Posts	is it a DIY . If i am able to get underneath the car is the plug easy to get to Or you have to take few things apart . In addition, 1- is it true you should replace the plug ech time as well.? 2- what size wrench is needed and at what tourque to you tighten it? 3- is there a special oils filter tool to remove and tighten with. Thanks.

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mazeka Senior SLK World Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Studio City Vehicle: 09 SLk55 Posts: 171 Country: Thanks: 2 Thanked 15 Times in 8 Posts	What is the difference between the two Mobil1 0W40 and Mobil1 Formula M ESP 5W40

08-15-2008	#9 (permalink)
Tslick Elite SLK World Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Long Beach, Ca Vehicle: SLK32 AMG Posts: 1,326 Country: Thanks: 74 Thanked 56 Times in 29 Posts	What's amusing, 5W40 was developed for diesel engines. The Mobil web site says it's for diesel engines only. I had my car serviced this week and they put 5W40 in it. I balked so they gave me a copy of a MBUSA news letter (not even a lowly DTB) saying it's approved for all gasoline engines except the SLR. I'll be asking the AMG folks on the AMGPL during the chat session next week about 5W40.

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Tslick Elite SLK World Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Long Beach, Ca Vehicle: SLK32 AMG Posts: 1,326 Country: Thanks: 74 Thanked 56 Times in 29 Posts	I found out after I picked up the car from the dealer.

08-15-2008	#12 (permalink)
Tslick Elite SLK World Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Long Beach, Ca Vehicle: SLK32 AMG Posts: 1,326 Country: Thanks: 74 Thanked 56 Times in 29 Posts	I posted this before, but why not again. At MBUSA Startekinfo, on the left navigation bar, select MB Workshop Recourses, then Recommended Fluids and select the PDF file dated June 5, 2008. It states that 0W40 is the only Mobil oil for the AMG... but you have other choices. http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/

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Tslick Elite SLK World Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Long Beach, Ca Vehicle: SLK32 AMG Posts: 1,326 Country: Thanks: 74 Thanked 56 Times in 29 Posts	Rob Allen from MBUSA AMG is going to check if Mobile 1 5W40 is acceptable oil for gasoline engines. He initially stated that Mobile 1 0W40 was it.

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etyu Founding Member #2 / Ambassador Of Good Will Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Orange County, CA Vehicle: 2008 SLK 55 Posts: 5,279 Country: Thanks: 376 Thanked 277 Times in 168 Posts	Link: http://www.slkworld.com/ask-dansslk/...fss-slk-2.html post #27 __________________ *Eddy* To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Pewter/Beige, PIII package, Airscarf, Hands-Free Communication System, Lighting package Designo Black Leather Cover on e-brake handle, ( To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Bill T), SmartTop v1.0, Kleyman 3BFM (NoRegret Custom), Green Air Filters, *Mod. R170 ant.*, EuroClear sidemarkers w/PIAA PlasmaIon lamps, chromed front & rear turn indicator lamps, PIAA SuperPlasmaGTX front parking lamps, bilateral rear fog lamps enabled.

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etyu Founding Member #2 / Ambassador Of Good Will Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Orange County, CA Vehicle: 2008 SLK 55 Posts: 5,279 Country: Thanks: 376 Thanked 277 Times in 168 Posts	Another useful link: http://www.whnet.com/4x4/oil.html Scroll down towards the bottom of page to see the oils that meet MB spec 229.5 and 229.51 (both diesel and gasoline). __________________ *Eddy* To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Pewter/Beige, PIII package, Airscarf, Hands-Free Communication System, Lighting package Designo Black Leather Cover on e-brake handle, ( To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Bill T), SmartTop v1.0, Kleyman 3BFM (NoRegret Custom), Green Air Filters, *Mod. R170 ant.*, EuroClear sidemarkers w/PIAA PlasmaIon lamps, chromed front & rear turn indicator lamps, PIAA SuperPlasmaGTX front parking lamps, bilateral rear fog lamps enabled.

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mazeka Senior SLK World Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Studio City Vehicle: 09 SLk55 Posts: 171 Country: Thanks: 2 Thanked 15 Times in 8 Posts	I did ...will post some more.. http://www.slkworld.com/slk-r171-gen...7073-pics.html

09-02-2008	#20 (permalink)
Tslick Elite SLK World Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Long Beach, Ca Vehicle: SLK32 AMG Posts: 1,326 Country: Thanks: 74 Thanked 56 Times in 29 Posts	I got a response from AMG Info (Germany) at the AMGPL. There sayin as of June of this year Mobil 1 5W-40 for M156 engines (6.3 liter) Mobil 1 0W-40 for all other AMG's including the C30 diesel Mobil 1 5W-50 for SLR's Now you know why everyone's confused.