Tire air pressure monitor

patoleas · 07-15-2008

Could anyone please let me know if it can be turned-off.
I have a '09 300slk and replaced the original 17's for AMG 18's
apparentely the new ones do not have pressure sensors so
I keep getting the "flat tire" icon and the "no wheel sensor"
on the display mon.

Thanks for any help.

**etyu** · 07-15-2008

The TPMS transponder can be installed by the tire shop that did the tires.

Perhaps others know of a way to turn off the TPMS monitor in the car.

**etyu** · 07-15-2008

Owner's manual states: after going into the TPMS menu, press the "-" button to cancel activation.

Let us know if the above works to inactivate the TPMS.

**DansSlk** · 07-15-2008

I don't think you can stop the warning or at least a similar warning saying its now disabled but you can stop the actual monitoring.

Best thing you can do is have sensors installed like Eddy said.

patoleas · 07-15-2008

Thanks for the fine help. When I get home I'll play with the settings some more.
I woul have sensors install as the last resource. I'll keep you inform.

Regards.

**WhiteRabbit** · 07-15-2008

TireRack sells the sensors for $248 for a set of 4.
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/TPMSS...09&autoModClar=

patoleas · 07-16-2008

Well, Tirerack experts do not think their sensors would be compatible.
Finally...I called a MB service rep he said in so many words:

No, the TPMS can't be disable or turned off.
New or different wheels will always need MB tire sensors, you can reuse your old ones as long as you write down their serial number so they can reprogram the system
for you (otherwise they would have to open the wheels again).
Each MB sensor is $200 and it will be another $250 to reprogam.
In other words they get you one way or the other. So for now I installed back
my 17's, the system went back to normal. And I have seatting in the garage a
very nice set of 18" AMG 16 spoke wheels.

Regards.

**etyu** · 07-16-2008

Check this site: http://www.dillaircontrols.com/files...s%20(TPMS).pdf

IIRC, Siemens is the supplier. Check with the tire people if they can install the MB compatible TPMS in the 18" tires that you now have and code it. Should be cheaper than MB doing it.

Sid · 07-16-2008

Eddy, which ones are compatible? I need TPMS.

**DansSlk** · 07-16-2008

OK I'm confused here, patoleas why don't you remove the sensors from your old tires and install them on the new ones then your all sorted, nothing needs to be programmed at all.

Sid, You have a 2006 mate so why do you need pressure sensors?

**WhiteRabbit** · 07-16-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by patoleas

Well, Tirerack experts do not think their sensors would be compatible.
Finally...I called a MB service rep he said in so many words:

No, the TPMS can't be disable or turned off.
New or different wheels will always need MB tire sensors, you can reuse your old ones as long as you write down their serial number so they can reprogram the system
for you (otherwise they would have to open the wheels again).
Each MB sensor is $200 and it will be another $250 to reprogam.
In other words they get you one way or the other. So for now I installed back
my 17's, the system went back to normal. And I have seatting in the garage a
very nice set of 18" AMG 16 spoke wheels.

Regards.

I hope this is not true or at least that TireRack gets compatible sensors within 3 months as I plan on swapping my 09 OEM wheels/tires with the 17" AMG 171 wheels/tires I had on my 06 SLK for the winter. I don't want to remove the sensors from the current wheels as I plan on putting them back on next spring. But I'm sure as hell not dropping over $1K to do it!!

**etyu** · 07-16-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid

Eddy, which ones are compatible? I need TPMS.

From the pdf it's the Siemens for Mercedes Benz sensor assembly, Dill Part no. 1054. Best to check with the tire store/MB service department.

I thought TPMS is mainly for cars manufactured after September 2007. This is different from the system tht senses the rotation of the tires and figures out if there's a tire pressure loss or not (earlier models)

**etyu** · 07-16-2008

Here's another site for the Beru/Siemens TPMS for mercedes Benz vehicles: http://rlauto.bfs002.bfhosting.co.uk...4/95/index.htm

Looks like sensor and valve stem assembly are sold separately.

Sid · 07-16-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by DansSlk

Sid, You have a 2006 mate so why do you need pressure sensors?

Dan, my 2006 didn't come with TPMS. Just something nice to have too. Safety, fuel economy, etc..

**etyu** · 07-16-2008

Can the new TPMS be retrofitted to the earlier model R171?

**DansSlk** · 07-16-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sid

Dan, my 2006 didn't come with TPMS. Just something nice to have too. Safety, fuel economy, etc..

OK but there is more to the system than just adding the sensors in the tires, the car needs kit installed to receive and process the information.

Quote:

Originally Posted by etyu

Can the new TPMS be retrofitted to the earlier model R171?

Yes it can be but it could require parts replacement right back up to the cluster itself

patoleas · 07-17-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by DansSlk

OK I'm confused here, patoleas why don't you remove the sensors from your old tires and install them on the new ones then your all sorted, nothing needs to be programmed at all.

Sid, You have a 2006 mate so why do you need pressure sensors?

I wanted to keep the new 17's for winter/mountain driving tires.
I guess I just have to invest in another set of sensors.$!!**

**etyu** · 07-17-2008

My guess would be that a competent tire place will be able to get the MB compatible sensors and be able to code it (as the coding equipment is also sold as an aftermarket deal). I doubt this has to be exclusive to MB service department only.

07-15-2008	#1 (permalink)
patoleas SLK World Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 26 Country: Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Tire air pressure monitor Could anyone please let me know if it can be turned-off. I have a '09 300slk and replaced the original 17's for AMG 18's apparentely the new ones do not have pressure sensors so I keep getting the "flat tire" icon and the "no wheel sensor" on the display mon. Thanks for any help.

07-15-2008	#2 (permalink)
etyu Founding Member #2 / Ambassador Of Good Will Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Orange County, CA Vehicle: 2008 SLK 55 Posts: 5,306 Country: Thanks: 381 Thanked 282 Times in 173 Posts	The TPMS transponder can be installed by the tire shop that did the tires. Perhaps others know of a way to turn off the TPMS monitor in the car. __________________ *Eddy* To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Pewter/Beige, PIII package, Airscarf, Hands-Free Communication System, Lighting package Designo Black Leather Cover on e-brake handle, ( To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Bill T), SmartTop v1.0, Kleyman 3BFM (NoRegret Custom), Green Air Filters, *Mod. R170 ant.*, EuroClear sidemarkers w/PIAA PlasmaIon lamps, chromed front & rear turn indicator lamps, PIAA SuperPlasmaGTX front parking lamps, bilateral rear fog lamps enabled.

07-15-2008	#3 (permalink)
etyu Founding Member #2 / Ambassador Of Good Will Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Orange County, CA Vehicle: 2008 SLK 55 Posts: 5,306 Country: Thanks: 381 Thanked 282 Times in 173 Posts	Owner's manual states: after going into the TPMS menu, press the "-" button to cancel activation. Let us know if the above works to inactivate the TPMS. __________________ *Eddy* To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Pewter/Beige, PIII package, Airscarf, Hands-Free Communication System, Lighting package Designo Black Leather Cover on e-brake handle, ( To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Bill T), SmartTop v1.0, Kleyman 3BFM (NoRegret Custom), Green Air Filters, *Mod. R170 ant.*, EuroClear sidemarkers w/PIAA PlasmaIon lamps, chromed front & rear turn indicator lamps, PIAA SuperPlasmaGTX front parking lamps, bilateral rear fog lamps enabled.

07-15-2008	#4 (permalink)
DansSlk Dude Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wales Vehicle: 05 B55S (Brabus 6.1 S) Posts: 6,795 Country: Thanks: 96 Thanked 225 Times in 177 Posts	I don't think you can stop the warning or at least a similar warning saying its now disabled but you can stop the actual monitoring. Best thing you can do is have sensors installed like Eddy said. __________________ One thing you will learn with German cars - If it's simple it ain't happening.

07-15-2008	#6 (permalink)
WhiteRabbit Elite SLK World Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Vehicle: 2009 SLK 350 Posts: 371 Country: Thanks: 80 Thanked 35 Times in 23 Posts	TireRack sells the sensors for $248 for a set of 4. http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/TPMSS...09&autoModClar= __________________ 2009 SLK 350, Arctic White, Gullwing Red, 7G Automatic, Premium PKG I, Lighting, Heating packages, Auto Climate Control, smartTop roof module v3.22, Clear side-marker lenses.

07-15-2008	#5 (permalink)
patoleas SLK World Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 26 Country: Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Thanks for the fine help. When I get home I'll play with the settings some more. I woul have sensors install as the last resource. I'll keep you inform. Regards.

07-16-2008	#7 (permalink)
patoleas SLK World Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 26 Country: Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Well, Tirerack experts do not think their sensors would be compatible. Finally...I called a MB service rep he said in so many words: No, the TPMS can't be disable or turned off. New or different wheels will always need MB tire sensors, you can reuse your old ones as long as you write down their serial number so they can reprogram the system for you (otherwise they would have to open the wheels again). Each MB sensor is $200 and it will be another $250 to reprogam. In other words they get you one way or the other. So for now I installed back my 17's, the system went back to normal. And I have seatting in the garage a very nice set of 18" AMG 16 spoke wheels. Regards.

07-16-2008	#8 (permalink)
etyu Founding Member #2 / Ambassador Of Good Will Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Orange County, CA Vehicle: 2008 SLK 55 Posts: 5,306 Country: Thanks: 381 Thanked 282 Times in 173 Posts	Check this site: http://www.dillaircontrols.com/files...s%20(TPMS).pdf IIRC, Siemens is the supplier. Check with the tire people if they can install the MB compatible TPMS in the 18" tires that you now have and code it. Should be cheaper than MB doing it. __________________ *Eddy* To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Pewter/Beige, PIII package, Airscarf, Hands-Free Communication System, Lighting package Designo Black Leather Cover on e-brake handle, ( To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Bill T), SmartTop v1.0, Kleyman 3BFM (NoRegret Custom), Green Air Filters, *Mod. R170 ant.*, EuroClear sidemarkers w/PIAA PlasmaIon lamps, chromed front & rear turn indicator lamps, PIAA SuperPlasmaGTX front parking lamps, bilateral rear fog lamps enabled.

07-16-2008	#9 (permalink)
Sid Founding Member #5 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Vehicle: 2006 SLK 350 Posts: 155 Country: Thanks: 34 Thanked 9 Times in 4 Posts	Eddy, which ones are compatible? I need TPMS.

07-16-2008	#10 (permalink)
DansSlk Dude Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wales Vehicle: 05 B55S (Brabus 6.1 S) Posts: 6,795 Country: Thanks: 96 Thanked 225 Times in 177 Posts	OK I'm confused here, patoleas why don't you remove the sensors from your old tires and install them on the new ones then your all sorted, nothing needs to be programmed at all. Sid, You have a 2006 mate so why do you need pressure sensors? __________________ One thing you will learn with German cars - If it's simple it ain't happening.

07-16-2008	#13 (permalink)
etyu Founding Member #2 / Ambassador Of Good Will Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Orange County, CA Vehicle: 2008 SLK 55 Posts: 5,306 Country: Thanks: 381 Thanked 282 Times in 173 Posts	Here's another site for the Beru/Siemens TPMS for mercedes Benz vehicles: http://rlauto.bfs002.bfhosting.co.uk...4/95/index.htm Looks like sensor and valve stem assembly are sold separately. __________________ *Eddy* To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Pewter/Beige, PIII package, Airscarf, Hands-Free Communication System, Lighting package Designo Black Leather Cover on e-brake handle, ( To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Bill T), SmartTop v1.0, Kleyman 3BFM (NoRegret Custom), Green Air Filters, *Mod. R170 ant.*, EuroClear sidemarkers w/PIAA PlasmaIon lamps, chromed front & rear turn indicator lamps, PIAA SuperPlasmaGTX front parking lamps, bilateral rear fog lamps enabled.

07-16-2008	#15 (permalink)
etyu Founding Member #2 / Ambassador Of Good Will Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Orange County, CA Vehicle: 2008 SLK 55 Posts: 5,306 Country: Thanks: 381 Thanked 282 Times in 173 Posts	Can the new TPMS be retrofitted to the earlier model R171? __________________ *Eddy* To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Pewter/Beige, PIII package, Airscarf, Hands-Free Communication System, Lighting package Designo Black Leather Cover on e-brake handle, ( To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Bill T), SmartTop v1.0, Kleyman 3BFM (NoRegret Custom), Green Air Filters, *Mod. R170 ant.*, EuroClear sidemarkers w/PIAA PlasmaIon lamps, chromed front & rear turn indicator lamps, PIAA SuperPlasmaGTX front parking lamps, bilateral rear fog lamps enabled.

07-17-2008	#18 (permalink)
etyu Founding Member #2 / Ambassador Of Good Will Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Orange County, CA Vehicle: 2008 SLK 55 Posts: 5,306 Country: Thanks: 381 Thanked 282 Times in 173 Posts	My guess would be that a competent tire place will be able to get the MB compatible sensors and be able to code it (as the coding equipment is also sold as an aftermarket deal). I doubt this has to be exclusive to MB service department only. __________________ *Eddy* To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Pewter/Beige, PIII package, Airscarf, Hands-Free Communication System, Lighting package Designo Black Leather Cover on e-brake handle, ( To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Bill T), SmartTop v1.0, Kleyman 3BFM (NoRegret Custom), Green Air Filters, *Mod. R170 ant.*, EuroClear sidemarkers w/PIAA PlasmaIon lamps, chromed front & rear turn indicator lamps, PIAA SuperPlasmaGTX front parking lamps, bilateral rear fog lamps enabled.

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