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| Here's how. To start, turn the ignition key to the first accessory position, making sure the dash display shows the odometer. The SRS airbag light should be on. Press the trip odometer reset button three times rapidly before it goes off. If you do this right, a screen will appear showing a voltmeter. Then press the "up" arrow on the left side of the wheel twice to take you to the "ESP dynamometer test" screen. Using the plus (+) button on the right side of the wheel, select "on." And then start the car. Warnings will appear informing you that the ESP, ABS, and BAS (brake assist) aids are now turned off and you're on your own. If you did it right, you've put the car in a mode intended for diagnostic testing on a rolling dynamometer—all electronic supervision is unplugged. Unhindered by techno-aids, the SLK's grip on the skidpad improved by 0.03 g compared with simply hitting the ESP switch on the dash. To return all the safety technology, scroll back to the dyno test screen and select "w/t. 15 off" with the minus (-) button. Shutting off all the electronic aids isn't easy, and that should tell you something. Owners are not generally privy to the dynamometer mode; therefore, we will continue to publish test numbers attained with the dashboard ESP switch turned off. We just thought you'd want to know Published by Car & Driver TONY QUIROGA, PHOTOGRAPHY BY TOM DREW November 2004 I know this information has been around for a few years, I posted this info for all of the NEW SLK Owners here Last edited by Bill T; 01-21-2007 at 11:10 AM. |
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| I have tried it several times and noticed that my new tires "chirp" less often, which makes me think the ESP is hitting the brakes. I plan on turning off when I track the car in March. |
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However, I didn't think it would apply the brakes hard enough to lock the wheels when you are moving at speed. | |
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| Too bad there isn't something like that for the R170 models.....argh!!
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| Interesting question tungster, on the R170, when you turn ESP off with the button, is it turned completely off. Maybe Dan can answer that question. When you had your recent dyno, did they press the button to turn off ESP? |
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| I actually got to drive the car on the dyno and YES the first thing I did was turn the "ESP" off.
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They do stick like glue in the rain. At speed, no chirping; just cornering hard/accelerating. ![]() | |
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| I'd advise not to use Dyno on track, I've tried it and the results are not so great. Your vastly improving the chances of flatspotting your tyres which is pretty easy with those brakes. And really it's no faster than just ESP off mode. You may also find in really slow corners using a lot of power you'll spin up on the right due to the lack of LSD.. Just IMO
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| I know there is a difference between simply turning ESP off and deactivating as described in Car and Driver. Can anyone elaborate? Thanks. |
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| Shutting ESP off using the button de-activates ASR the acceleration skid part of the system thats all it will still spring into life if it detects the car starting to deviate from the desired track. Using dyno-mode basically shuts down most of the ESP control module so all functions of ESP are no longer available thats the acceleration skid system over-run system (applies reducing throttle after a quick let off at speed) brake assist anti-lock brakes and last the actual traction control core system Basically the car becomes a 1980's brake system with no help given to you at all apart from the fact the brakes even without help are considerably more powerful.
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| i would love to do this but am worried incase i can't turn it back again, or incase something goes wrong. not worth it to be honest! |
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| Its not going to fail off mate its real easy to power it back up and its not going to cause any failures because its a proper operating mode. Only problems are its not meant to be used on anything bar the dyno so to try it on a public road is a bad idea you never know when you will need the TC to help you out and like you say thats not worth the risk
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Appreciate the thorough explanation ![]() | |
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| [quote=DansSlk;21156]Shutting ESP off using the button de-activates ASR the acceleration skid part of the system thats all it will still spring into life if it detects the car starting to deviate from the desired track. Using dyno-mode basically shuts down most of the ESP control module so all functions of ESP are no longer available thats the acceleration skid system over-run system (applies reducing throttle after a quick let off at speed) brake assist anti-lock brakes and last the actual traction control core system quote] DansSLK - can you explain a little more about what the "over-run system" does and what is "brake assist system (BAS)"? I understand anti-lock brakes but not sure I understand the purpose of BAS. Also acceleration skid system? thanks john |
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| Sure thing. ASR (Acceleration Skid Regulation) - This is one of the things normally associated with traction control it reduces the throttle if it detects wheel spin during a quick take off its what you need disabled if you want to spin the wheels up during a start, it is the only part of the system disabled when you select ESP OFF. BAS (Brake Assist System) - Watches the brake pedal for changes in position and how fast you move the pedal in/out if it detects a fast activation it takes over control of the brakes using a servo in the master cylinder to move the diaphragm to max applying the full braking pressure available regardless of the position of the pedal itself it can also instruct the ESP module to help increase the pressure even more if need be, its used for emergency stops and hands you control again only after the car has stopped or you have completly released the brake pedal if the latter the pressure is reduced slowly to help keep it smooth) The over-run system / Engine Braking Regulation Control (MSR ) - this comes into play when you suddenly lift off of the throttle it uses the throttle valve to regulate the engine torque to prevent wheel slip so when you take your foot clean off the pedal at 150 your asking for 0% throttle (Idle power) the car is actually going to give you 90/80/70 and so on reducing throttle gradually it helps out with the lateral stability.. The MSR and BAS are silent i.e they don't inform you when they are operating you are only made aware of them if they are in an error state however you can feel them at work especially the BAS since it changes the pressure so fast it can be quite violent. Hope this helps
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| it does annoy me sometimes that i can't put the rear end out in the skl at times. it is good fun the odd time to just floor it away and come out sideways. even turning ESP off it still controls yur slide. Does this dyno mode enable you to have more control over a slide in the car? not that i want to do it all the time, but when im out messing about it can be good fun. |
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| Yeah if you where to enable dyno mode then it would let you slide the car as much as you wanted
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Dyno Mode is essential for using the car on obviously the dyno but also the brake rigs, it wont be going anytime soon.
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