brabus vs. carlsson lowering springs?

algrensan · 05-05-2007

it's time to lower my car and i'm trying to decide between brabus vs. carlsson. the main purpose is for for sportier looks/stance and better handling on the streets but comfortable daily driving. i'm not trying to make it the best handling road-racing machine. >.> both are top brand names and have a lot of history. i think the retail for each is similar-not sure. which would you go with?

Banned · 05-05-2007

Non of it. Why do you want to pay money for a brand? Better to buy from the industry.

**alroumi** · 05-05-2007

Hello, both are highly reputable manufacturers and also Tuv certified.

If you dont mind saying which variant of the SLK do you have and what are you aiming for Coil over or Lowering Springs?

If your main aim is for a lower , sportier stance I highly suggest you to go for H&R springs as they are the sportiest lowering springs available for the SLK R171 when compared to Brabus, Eibach and other manufacturers.

Baron7700 · 05-05-2007

I agree H&R

**Ynot** · 05-05-2007

If you are located in Europe, just get eibach and h&r, don't go for the brand names, they are basically the same products, except premium brands charge premium price.

**alroumi** · 05-05-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ynot

If you are located in Europe, just get eibach and h&r, don't go for the brand names, they are basically the same products, except premium brands charge premium price.

Yes, exactly though manufacturers or lets say "Tuners" claim that they are manufactured by Eibach but to their spec's which I think is entirely wrong. Its just another way to grab $ out of people.

**Bernd js** · 05-05-2007

If you really want to have only lowering springs buy at the manufacturers as mentioned obove!

If you are located in Europe there are two others: Vogtland (http://www.vogtland.com/) and Weitec (http://www.weitec.de/).

Until today I couldn't clarify wheather the springs of my adjustable suspension from Carlsson are made by Eibach or H&R. Both is possible.

In my opinion the H&R springs lower the rear axle too much. The Weitecs are quite comfortable. I think the Eibachs are the best.

Banned · 05-06-2007

Totally agreement Bernd!

algrensan · 05-06-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by alroumi

Hello, both are highly reputable manufacturers and also Tuv certified.

If you dont mind saying which variant of the SLK do you have and what are you aiming for Coil over or Lowering Springs?

If your main aim is for a lower , sportier stance I highly suggest you to go for H&R springs as they are the sportiest lowering springs available for the SLK R171 when compared to Brabus, Eibach and other manufacturers.

i have a 2005 slk350 which came with "486 sport suspension" for $200. i used to have eibach sportline springs on my 1994 honda accord ex. sportlines were a nice drop-from my experience with honda/acura, people who got the pro-kit wished the drop was a little lower. then i switched to tein ha coilovers-it handled nicely but i don't want to go crazy with height/damper adjustment and $$$ at this time. i'm just going to settle for lowering springs and use the "sport shocks" that came with the car.

i hear a couple of people say yea go with the more affordable brands like h&r and eibach but who actually has them? it seems like a lot of lowered slk threads with pics have brabus lowering springs.

h&r 'sport spring' 1.2 front 1.2 rear part#29218.2 $439 msrp
eibach 'pro-kit' 1.0 front 1.0 rear part#2575.140 $389? msrp
carlsson front/rear approx. 35mm part#31350250 $575 msrp
brabus ? front ? rear part# 171-006-00 ? msrp

no one buys at msrp ofcourse. i think the lowest i've found for eibach is $250 shipped and for brabus $415 shipped. i'm sure the h&r springs are available for a lot cheaper but in terms of brabus vs. carlsson, i'm leaning towards brabus.

Banned · 05-06-2007

H&R - 230,00 Euro
Eibach - 180,00 Euro
Weitec - 150,00 Euro

USD/Euro + 30% today

You should buy the springs in Germany

**alroumi** · 05-07-2007

Ive actually found out you can get Intrax and H&R sprins/coil overs for a slighlty cheaper price at Ebay USA.

Baron7700 · 05-07-2007

interesting............ thank you ghero

N4PWJ · 05-07-2007

i woul recommend eibach. hve them and they give a good drop and dont compromise ride comfort too much.

**Ynot** · 05-07-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by alroumi

Ive actually found out you can get Intrax and H&R sprins/coil overs for a slighlty cheaper price at Ebay USA.

If you are looking for cheap springs, formymercedes.com has Schaetz lowering springs for $229, someone over at benzworld.org is trying to sell his intrax springs if anyone is interested.

Baron7700 · 05-07-2007

where can you find eibach's? for the slk

**Ynot** · 05-07-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baron7700

where can you find eibach's? for the slk

You can't, it's not sold here in the US, you can only get brabus, it's eibach renamed with an additional $150 price tag.

Baron7700 · 05-07-2007

couldnt get it shipped over?

algrensan · 05-08-2007

does eibach make springs for brabus? yea. do eibach springs come with the same specifications as 'brabus springs'? i don't think so. i'm not calling eibach some crappy generic spring company or anything like that. they make a lot of quality springs for a wide range of makes and models. but considering brabus is one of the most recognized top 'mercedes-benz' tuners in the world, i would assume the extra $150 or whatever is paying for the r&d, etc. i don't see what's wrong with brabus getting their springs made from a top company like eibach. i'd think that's a good thing. there must be a reason why they're the most popular brand. i called brabus usa/cec wheels to inquire about brabus + eibach spring differences. i recommend anyone to give them a call and ask them for yourselves. the carlsson springs, as well as h&r sport springs, i hear are little more aggressive with ride comfort. also, everywhere i've searched it seems like carlsson costs a lot more than brabus.

a number of places seem to sell the eibach pro-kit for the slk r171. maybe it's a special order? tirerack $232, summit racing $289.95, $245.07 (shipped) ajusa, $262.57 stillen. that was from checking out the dealers on the eibach website.

**Bernd js** · 05-08-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ynot

You can't, it's not sold here in the US, you can only get brabus, it's eibach renamed with an additional $150 price tag.

Sorry Ynot, I've found something:
http://www.eibach.de/index_2.php?STE...ca&DSTLD=U.S.A.

... and the Eibach Pro-Kit simply are the springs .

**Bernd js** · 05-08-2007

*grrr*

the link doesn't work properly, so ....

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algrensan SLK World Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 25 Country: Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 1 Post	brabus vs. carlsson lowering springs? it's time to lower my car and i'm trying to decide between brabus vs. carlsson. the main purpose is for for sportier looks/stance and better handling on the streets but comfortable daily driving. i'm not trying to make it the best handling road-racing machine. >.> both are top brand names and have a lot of history. i think the retail for each is similar-not sure. which would you go with?

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alroumi Moderator Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Kuwait City, Kuwait Vehicle: 2006 Kleemann Designo Mocha Black SLK55 AMG Other Toys: 2007 Ebony Jaguar XKR Coupe' and 06 Black Cayenne S Posts: 6,275 Country: Thanks: 291 Thanked 231 Times in 145 Posts	Hello, both are highly reputable manufacturers and also Tuv certified. If you dont mind saying which variant of the SLK do you have and what are you aiming for Coil over or Lowering Springs? If your main aim is for a lower , sportier stance I highly suggest you to go for H&R springs as they are the sportiest lowering springs available for the SLK R171 when compared to Brabus, Eibach and other manufacturers. __________________ 06 Kleemann Designo Mocha Black SLK55 AMG 06 Porsche Cayenne S 07 Jaguar XKR Coupe' I use the Torque and keep the HP for my Steak Sauce!

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Bernd js Senior SLK World Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bremen Vehicle: 2006 SLK 350 AMG Package Other Toys: watches, C43 AMG Posts: 186 Country: Thanks: 9 Thanked 13 Times in 7 Posts	If you really want to have only lowering springs buy at the manufacturers as mentioned obove! If you are located in Europe there are two others: Vogtland (http://www.vogtland.com/) and Weitec (http://www.weitec.de/). Until today I couldn't clarify wheather the springs of my adjustable suspension from Carlsson are made by Eibach or H&R. Both is possible. In my opinion the H&R springs lower the rear axle too much. The Weitecs are quite comfortable. I think the Eibachs are the best. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Last edited by Bernd js; 05-06-2007 at 07:58 AM. Reason: English language, difficult language

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Banned Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,167 Country: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Non of it. Why do you want to pay money for a brand? Better to buy from the industry.

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Baron7700 Elite SLK World Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pennyslvania Vehicle: 2006 Slk 350 Other Toys: Lots of ATV's Posts: 1,599 Country: Thanks: 3 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	I agree H&R

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Banned Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,167 Country: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Totally agreement Bernd!

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Banned Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,167 Country: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	H&R - 230,00 Euro Eibach - 180,00 Euro Weitec - 150,00 Euro USD/Euro + 30% today You should buy the springs in Germany

05-07-2007	#11 (permalink)
alroumi Moderator Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Kuwait City, Kuwait Vehicle: 2006 Kleemann Designo Mocha Black SLK55 AMG Other Toys: 2007 Ebony Jaguar XKR Coupe' and 06 Black Cayenne S Posts: 6,275 Country: Thanks: 291 Thanked 231 Times in 145 Posts	Ive actually found out you can get Intrax and H&R sprins/coil overs for a slighlty cheaper price at Ebay USA. __________________ 06 Kleemann Designo Mocha Black SLK55 AMG 06 Porsche Cayenne S 07 Jaguar XKR Coupe' I use the Torque and keep the HP for my Steak Sauce!

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Baron7700 Elite SLK World Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pennyslvania Vehicle: 2006 Slk 350 Other Toys: Lots of ATV's Posts: 1,599 Country: Thanks: 3 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	interesting............ thank you ghero

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N4PWJ Elite SLK World Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Belfast,N.Ireland Vehicle: 2006,slk280,carlsson Other Toys: Caterham Posts: 1,417 Country: Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	i woul recommend eibach. hve them and they give a good drop and dont compromise ride comfort too much.

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Baron7700 Elite SLK World Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pennyslvania Vehicle: 2006 Slk 350 Other Toys: Lots of ATV's Posts: 1,599 Country: Thanks: 3 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	where can you find eibach's? for the slk

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Baron7700 Elite SLK World Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pennyslvania Vehicle: 2006 Slk 350 Other Toys: Lots of ATV's Posts: 1,599 Country: Thanks: 3 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	couldnt get it shipped over?

05-08-2007	#18 (permalink)
algrensan SLK World Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 25 Country: Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 1 Post	does eibach make springs for brabus? yea. do eibach springs come with the same specifications as 'brabus springs'? i don't think so. i'm not calling eibach some crappy generic spring company or anything like that. they make a lot of quality springs for a wide range of makes and models. but considering brabus is one of the most recognized top 'mercedes-benz' tuners in the world, i would assume the extra $150 or whatever is paying for the r&d, etc. i don't see what's wrong with brabus getting their springs made from a top company like eibach. i'd think that's a good thing. there must be a reason why they're the most popular brand. i called brabus usa/cec wheels to inquire about brabus + eibach spring differences. i recommend anyone to give them a call and ask them for yourselves. the carlsson springs, as well as h&r sport springs, i hear are little more aggressive with ride comfort. also, everywhere i've searched it seems like carlsson costs a lot more than brabus. a number of places seem to sell the eibach pro-kit for the slk r171. maybe it's a special order? tirerack $232, summit racing $289.95, $245.07 (shipped) ajusa, $262.57 stillen. that was from checking out the dealers on the eibach website. Last edited by algrensan; 05-08-2007 at 12:40 AM. Reason: grammar