Power-Converter

Banned · 02-24-2007

Kicherer is offering an electronic cable, which is very easy to install under the throttle pedal and is eliminating the "sleeping second" of the throttle.

A friend of mine has tested it yesterday and his summary: Good fun! You get the punch of your engine in each 10th of a second.

http://www.kicherer.net/all/files/KI...9_93827413.pdf
www.kicherer.net

Questions to Mr. Florian Herre.

DansSlk · 02-25-2007

I thought about making a custom one of these but decided it would make parking and what not more difficult because it basically tells the ECU you are applying more throttle than you actually are.

In the end i made a change to the map to remove the lag in M1 and 2 and keep it in S so it could be used by the good lay around town without mounting curbs.

bejak · 02-25-2007

"Only for cars with electronical throttle pedal"!?
Does the SLK have such?

Banned · 02-25-2007

Yes it has.

DansSlk · 02-25-2007

Yep Gero has it right the SLK uses a fully electronic throttle and to a certain extent an electronic brake system also in that brake pedal travel is detected at the master cylinder and from then on the computer takes over deciding how much pressure is to be used and what calipers to activate

Banned · 02-26-2007

The Power Converter is working equal to the "Sport-Button" of a BMW Z4. I´ve got a special price from Kicherer. If somebody is interested in it, please send a PM.

It is not working in a R170.

gmabli · 02-26-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by OWL-SLK

Kicherer is offering an electronic cable, which is very easy to install under the throttle pedal and is eliminating the "sleeping second" of the throttle.

Excuse my ignorance, but what exactly does this product do? And what is the 'sleeping second' you mention?

DansSlk · 02-26-2007

Its a small amount of lag built into the first few % of pedal travel by MB the ECU uses this as a dead band allowing you to feather the throttle easy in traffic or when driving around town.

Products like this sit on the line between the pedal and the ECU and if we say the first 5% of travel is "mushy" this product watches for anything in this range and tells the ECU your actually applying 6% throttle so it responds instantly this gives the feel of better response but also makes for very hard driving when using your car in traffic situations

Wallance · 02-26-2007

sounds like what i was concern about at the very begining when i bought my car... the lag at launching.
I am interested but all depends on if it really works and how much
thanks

DansSlk · 02-26-2007

Not seen one yet that does not work and Gero's the one to ask about price

Banned · 02-27-2007

It works really well and the price is about 300 Euro plus shipment. My friend testet the converter in a E500 (Vaeth 5.5) of his father and he did not get it back, because his 69 year old father was delighted.

**SLK_BLK** · 02-27-2007

So, what is the difference between this and Sprint Booster?

Banned · 02-27-2007

Looks identical. Where did you get it and what´s the price? Do you have a link?

**SLK_BLK** · 02-27-2007

This guy is selling it on web, but I know wholesale price is much lower.

http://www.slkfans.com/

Banned · 02-27-2007

Are you able to get it from the producer?

Just a request: would you please tell me your prename. It´s much easier for me to talk to a person with a name. (sorry, but I am 46 years old...)

**SLK_BLK** · 02-27-2007

I don't know the manufacturer but it supposes made in Germany.

gmabli · 02-27-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by DansSlk

Its a small amount of lag built into the first few % of pedal travel by MB the ECU uses this as a dead band allowing you to feather the throttle easy in traffic or when driving around town.

Products like this sit on the line between the pedal and the ECU and if we say the first 5% of travel is "mushy" this product watches for anything in this range and tells the ECU your actually applying 6% throttle so it responds instantly this gives the feel of better response but also makes for very hard driving when using your car in traffic situations

Helpful as usual, Dan. Thanks for the explanation. I looked at the Sprint module (www.slkfans.com) and it seems it is only for auto trannys.

Banned · 02-27-2007

I´ve got from Kicherer the information that their converter works with automatic and 6 gear boxes.

bloflin · 02-27-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wallance

sounds like what i was concern about at the very begining when i bought my car... the lag at launching.
I am interested but all depends on if it really works and how much
thanks

If your doing a real launch, shouldn't make any difference, as you already have the pedal partially pressed to launch with engine at ~ 2000rpm or so.

All it does is "fool" you into thinking you have a faster car, you really just now have a "touchier" (sp?) gas pedal.

And if your're not careful your spouse will end up putting your "faster" car into the backend of the garage wall.

N4PWJ · 02-28-2007

could you put it on a switch so as to turn it off in slow traffic? I have personally been frustated by this lag many a times when coming out of corners etc

02-24-2007	#1 (permalink)
Banned Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,167 Country: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Power-Converter Kicherer is offering an electronic cable, which is very easy to install under the throttle pedal and is eliminating the "sleeping second" of the throttle. A friend of mine has tested it yesterday and his summary: Good fun! You get the punch of your engine in each 10th of a second. http://www.kicherer.net/all/files/KI...9_93827413.pdf www.kicherer.net Questions to Mr. Florian Herre.

02-25-2007	#2 (permalink)
DansSlk Dude Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wales Vehicle: 05 B55S (Brabus 6.1 S) Posts: 6,756 Country: Thanks: 96 Thanked 221 Times in 173 Posts	I thought about making a custom one of these but decided it would make parking and what not more difficult because it basically tells the ECU you are applying more throttle than you actually are. In the end i made a change to the map to remove the lag in M1 and 2 and keep it in S so it could be used by the good lay around town without mounting curbs. __________________ One thing you will learn with German cars - If it's simple it ain't happening.

02-25-2007	#5 (permalink)
DansSlk Dude Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wales Vehicle: 05 B55S (Brabus 6.1 S) Posts: 6,756 Country: Thanks: 96 Thanked 221 Times in 173 Posts	Yep Gero has it right the SLK uses a fully electronic throttle and to a certain extent an electronic brake system also in that brake pedal travel is detected at the master cylinder and from then on the computer takes over deciding how much pressure is to be used and what calipers to activate __________________ One thing you will learn with German cars - If it's simple it ain't happening.

02-26-2007	#8 (permalink)
DansSlk Dude Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wales Vehicle: 05 B55S (Brabus 6.1 S) Posts: 6,756 Country: Thanks: 96 Thanked 221 Times in 173 Posts	Its a small amount of lag built into the first few % of pedal travel by MB the ECU uses this as a dead band allowing you to feather the throttle easy in traffic or when driving around town. Products like this sit on the line between the pedal and the ECU and if we say the first 5% of travel is "mushy" this product watches for anything in this range and tells the ECU your actually applying 6% throttle so it responds instantly this gives the feel of better response but also makes for very hard driving when using your car in traffic situations __________________ One thing you will learn with German cars - If it's simple it ain't happening.

02-26-2007	#10 (permalink)
DansSlk Dude Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wales Vehicle: 05 B55S (Brabus 6.1 S) Posts: 6,756 Country: Thanks: 96 Thanked 221 Times in 173 Posts	Not seen one yet that does not work and Gero's the one to ask about price __________________ One thing you will learn with German cars - If it's simple it ain't happening.

02-25-2007	#3 (permalink)
bejak Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sweden, West Coast Vehicle: 2004 SLK200K R171, aut, Iridium Posts: 145 Country: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	"Only for cars with electronical throttle pedal"!? Does the SLK have such?

02-25-2007	#4 (permalink)
Banned Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,167 Country: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yes it has.

02-26-2007	#6 (permalink)
Banned Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,167 Country: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The Power Converter is working equal to the "Sport-Button" of a BMW Z4. I´ve got a special price from Kicherer. If somebody is interested in it, please send a PM. It is not working in a R170.

02-26-2007	#9 (permalink)
Wallance Senior SLK World Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Vancouver Vehicle: SLK350 Posts: 158 Country: Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	sounds like what i was concern about at the very begining when i bought my car... the lag at launching. I am interested but all depends on if it really works and how much thanks

02-27-2007	#11 (permalink)
Banned Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,167 Country: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	It works really well and the price is about 300 Euro plus shipment. My friend testet the converter in a E500 (Vaeth 5.5) of his father and he did not get it back, because his 69 year old father was delighted.

02-27-2007	#12 (permalink)
SLK_BLK Senior SLK World Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Happy Valley Vehicle: SLK55 Black Series Other Toys: Honda FD2, Mazda SE3P Posts: 114 Country: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	So, what is the difference between this and Sprint Booster? __________________ *** To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Extras - Green Filter High Performance Air Filter, Supersprint Stainless Steel Cat. Back Exhaust System, Vaeth ECU Tuning, Vaeth Fuel Cooler, AMS Crank Pulley, Invo Autotec Alternator Pulley

02-27-2007	#13 (permalink)
Banned Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,167 Country: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Looks identical. Where did you get it and what´s the price? Do you have a link?

02-27-2007	#14 (permalink)
SLK_BLK Senior SLK World Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Happy Valley Vehicle: SLK55 Black Series Other Toys: Honda FD2, Mazda SE3P Posts: 114 Country: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	This guy is selling it on web, but I know wholesale price is much lower. http://www.slkfans.com/ __________________ *** To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Extras - Green Filter High Performance Air Filter, Supersprint Stainless Steel Cat. Back Exhaust System, Vaeth ECU Tuning, Vaeth Fuel Cooler, AMS Crank Pulley, Invo Autotec Alternator Pulley

02-27-2007	#15 (permalink)
Banned Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,167 Country: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Are you able to get it from the producer? Just a request: would you please tell me your prename. It´s much easier for me to talk to a person with a name. (sorry, but I am 46 years old...)

02-27-2007	#16 (permalink)
SLK_BLK Senior SLK World Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Happy Valley Vehicle: SLK55 Black Series Other Toys: Honda FD2, Mazda SE3P Posts: 114 Country: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I don't know the manufacturer but it supposes made in Germany. __________________ *** To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Extras - Green Filter High Performance Air Filter, Supersprint Stainless Steel Cat. Back Exhaust System, Vaeth ECU Tuning, Vaeth Fuel Cooler, AMS Crank Pulley, Invo Autotec Alternator Pulley

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Banned Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,167 Country: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I´ve got from Kicherer the information that their converter works with automatic and 6 gear boxes.

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N4PWJ Elite SLK World Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Belfast,N.Ireland Vehicle: 2006,slk280,carlsson Other Toys: Caterham Posts: 1,417 Country: Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	could you put it on a switch so as to turn it off in slow traffic? I have personally been frustated by this lag many a times when coming out of corners etc