Speed up Top up/down process?

**SLKman** · 08-22-2006

Is it possible to speed up the process of top up/down?

DansSlk · 08-22-2006

No not really the speed is not controlled by the car as such but by the hydraulic pressure regulated by the pump you would have to find a way to speed up the pump but this would also raise pressures and will more than likely cause damage especially when the roof contacts the stops in the trunk if it was moving at much more speed than it does now i would be worried about denting it.

*easty* · 08-22-2006

I really wouldn't play with the kinematics of the roof. This is pretty complicated design and everything is balanced to work at a certain speed.

**-1-** · 08-22-2006

No complaints here. I'm happy with the roof travel time. A+ system.

DansSlk · 08-22-2006

Just a thought SLKman have you had your system pressure if the roof is slowing down maybe its losing pressure somewhere

**SLKman** · 08-22-2006

No. No mechanical problem here. Nor would I think of tackling the hydrolics. I was just wondering if maybe there was an easy way to speed it up.

**etyu** · 08-22-2006

It does take a few more seconds longer on the R170 than the R171. It's about 22 seconds on the R171.

Baron7700 · 09-09-2006

Well, if you really were bugged by the Top up/ down speed. GO watch a caddy XLR put its roof up and down.

My best friend has one, and I can put mine up and down in almost the time it takes his to go one way.

mtiede · 09-09-2006

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Originally Posted by etyu

It does take a few more seconds longer on the R170 than the R171. It's about 22 seconds on the R171.

28 seconds for the R170. Those few seconds can mean a LOT when you try to put the top down or up at a traffic light.

Do wish it was even faster though...

**Ynot** · 09-10-2006

wish it was all 16 seconds like the SL. It isn't that bad when you have the CVM b/c you could just drive off whenever but when I didn't have it, I didn't drop/raise the top that much at the traffic light.

DansSlk · 09-10-2006

Ynot mate they might quote 16 seconds but from experience mate it ain't that fast its got more mass to move.

Thats the PR department for you.

RacerCub68 · 09-11-2006

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Originally Posted by -1-

No complaints here. I'm happy with the roof travel time. A+ system.

The new Miata hard top does it in 12 seconds. Damn it, the Japanese are always smaller, cheaper and sometimes faster.

RacerCub68 · 09-11-2006

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Originally Posted by Baron7700

Well, if you really were bugged by the Top up/ down speed. GO watch a caddy XLR put its roof up and down.

My best friend has one, and I can put mine up and down in almost the time it takes his to go one way.

That is because the same company designed the XLR roof as did the SLK. It was in thier contract with Mercedes that they were NOT do make any other car manufacture's roof go as fast or faster.

bazzle · 09-26-2006

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Originally Posted by RacerCub68

The new Miata hard top does it in 12 seconds. Damn it, the Japanese are always smaller, cheaper and sometimes faster.

But its light weight moulded Plastic

Bazzle

bloflin · 10-11-2006

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Originally Posted by SLKman

No. No mechanical problem here. Nor would I think of tackling the hydrolics. I was just wondering if maybe there was an easy way to speed it up.

Just get the aftermarket roof control module (i.e. Piecha, etc.). You will NEVER think about the time again.

My scenario, pulling out of my garage, roof is down before I turn on the street. Get to work. Walk away from my car, 3 clicks on the remote and the top is going down while I'm walking to the building. Leaving work, 3 click on the remote at about 100 feet out and the top is down before I get to the car.

Driving, top down, looks like rain, next stop light, start the top going up, make sure I don't acclerate past 30mph until cycle complete.

**Ynot** · 10-11-2006

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Originally Posted by bloflin

Just get the aftermarket roof control module (i.e. Piecha, etc.). You will NEVER think about the time again.

My scenario, pulling out of my garage, roof is down before I turn on the street. Get to work. Walk away from my car, 3 clicks on the remote and the top is going down while I'm walking to the building. Leaving work, 3 click on the remote at about 100 feet out and the top is down before I get to the car.

Driving, top down, looks like rain, next stop light, start the top going up, make sure I don't acclerate past 30mph until cycle complete.

I totally agree, get the piecha roof module and you'll never count those seconds again.

**etyu** · 10-11-2006

Please remember, SLKman drives the R170. The Bipes module is suited for this. I am not aware if piecha makes a varioroof module for the R170.

**jbanks15** · 10-14-2006

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Originally Posted by etyu

Please remember, SLKman drives the R170. The Bipes module is suited for this. I am not aware if piecha makes a varioroof module for the R170.

x-t-c sells for the r170 per their website 499 euros

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DansSlk Dude Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wales Vehicle: 05 B55S (Brabus 6.1 S) Posts: 6,752 Country: Thanks: 96 Thanked 221 Times in 173 Posts	No not really the speed is not controlled by the car as such but by the hydraulic pressure regulated by the pump you would have to find a way to speed up the pump but this would also raise pressures and will more than likely cause damage especially when the roof contacts the stops in the trunk if it was moving at much more speed than it does now i would be worried about denting it. __________________ One thing you will learn with German cars - If it's simple it ain't happening.

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easty Moderator Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Montreal Vehicle: ///AMG Posts: 2,075 Country: Thanks: 17 Thanked 19 Times in 9 Posts	I really wouldn't play with the kinematics of the roof. This is pretty complicated design and everything is balanced to work at a certain speed. __________________ "I'm not a roman mum, I'm a kike, a yid, a heebie, a hook-nose, I'm kosher mum, I'm a Red Sea pedestrian, and proud of it!" Life of Brian To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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DansSlk Dude Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wales Vehicle: 05 B55S (Brabus 6.1 S) Posts: 6,752 Country: Thanks: 96 Thanked 221 Times in 173 Posts	Just a thought SLKman have you had your system pressure if the roof is slowing down maybe its losing pressure somewhere __________________ One thing you will learn with German cars - If it's simple it ain't happening.

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SLKman Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Houston Texas Vehicle: 2000 Copper Designo Sport Posts: 1,063 Country: Thanks: 261 Thanked 73 Times in 35 Posts	No. No mechanical problem here. Nor would I think of tackling the hydrolics. I was just wondering if maybe there was an easy way to speed it up.

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etyu Founding Member #2 / Ambassador Of Good Will Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Orange County, CA Vehicle: 2008 SLK 55 Posts: 5,279 Country: Thanks: 376 Thanked 277 Times in 168 Posts	It does take a few more seconds longer on the R170 than the R171. It's about 22 seconds on the R171. __________________ *Eddy* To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Pewter/Beige, PIII package, Airscarf, Hands-Free Communication System, Lighting package Designo Black Leather Cover on e-brake handle, ( To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Bill T), SmartTop v1.0, Kleyman 3BFM (NoRegret Custom), Green Air Filters, *Mod. R170 ant.*, EuroClear sidemarkers w/PIAA PlasmaIon lamps, chromed front & rear turn indicator lamps, PIAA SuperPlasmaGTX front parking lamps, bilateral rear fog lamps enabled.

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Baron7700 Elite SLK World Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pennyslvania Vehicle: 2006 Slk 350 Other Toys: Lots of ATV's Posts: 1,599 Country: Thanks: 3 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Well, if you really were bugged by the Top up/ down speed. GO watch a caddy XLR put its roof up and down. My best friend has one, and I can put mine up and down in almost the time it takes his to go one way.

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Ynot Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Colorado Vehicle: 06' MBZ SLK Posts: 2,795 Country: Thanks: 135 Thanked 35 Times in 30 Posts	wish it was all 16 seconds like the SL. It isn't that bad when you have the CVM b/c you could just drive off whenever but when I didn't have it, I didn't drop/raise the top that much at the traffic light. __________________ 06' SLK 350, Iridium/Ash all pkgs. 6-spd, 19" DCR. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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DansSlk Dude Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wales Vehicle: 05 B55S (Brabus 6.1 S) Posts: 6,752 Country: Thanks: 96 Thanked 221 Times in 173 Posts	Ynot mate they might quote 16 seconds but from experience mate it ain't that fast its got more mass to move. Thats the PR department for you. __________________ One thing you will learn with German cars - If it's simple it ain't happening.

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etyu Founding Member #2 / Ambassador Of Good Will Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Orange County, CA Vehicle: 2008 SLK 55 Posts: 5,279 Country: Thanks: 376 Thanked 277 Times in 168 Posts	Please remember, SLKman drives the R170. The Bipes module is suited for this. I am not aware if piecha makes a varioroof module for the R170. __________________ *Eddy* To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Pewter/Beige, PIII package, Airscarf, Hands-Free Communication System, Lighting package Designo Black Leather Cover on e-brake handle, ( To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Bill T), SmartTop v1.0, Kleyman 3BFM (NoRegret Custom), Green Air Filters, *Mod. R170 ant.*, EuroClear sidemarkers w/PIAA PlasmaIon lamps, chromed front & rear turn indicator lamps, PIAA SuperPlasmaGTX front parking lamps, bilateral rear fog lamps enabled.

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