does anyone think about trading in SLK for a GT-R?

kenkenclub · 03-27-2008

maybe it's a stupid topic, i mean SLK is much more luxury coupe. there two car don't really compete each other.
but since some of us bought AMG version..I think SPEED does count as one of important factor,for almost same amount of money, you can get GT-R.
WIll you trade in your car for a GT-R?

I know the look of GT-R is not that great.
I know it's a Nissan...

MDLSLK55 · 03-27-2008

What's wrong with the look and Nissan? It's an awesome car and will be even more awesome after it's out for a year and the dealers stop marking up orders 30-50K.

Several of my friends wanted me to wait for it to come out and forego the SLK, but I wasn't interested. I will say I'd consider it down the road, but not for at least 2 years.

Tslick · 03-27-2008

It's what you want. Myself, I'd think it would be a great second car (I don't like a roof over my head).

Ikarus · 03-28-2008

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Originally Posted by kenkenclub

for almost same amount of money, you can get GT-R.

The thing is, you can't get the GT-R any time soon. And once you can, you won't get it for the advertised price, and if past production numbers for Nissan Skylines are any indication, perhaps you never will.

In my opinion, Nissan doesn't make a penny on this car (even though they make claims to the contrary), since if they would, they would boost production way beyond the current level. It's a classical halo car that mainly serves a marketing purpose.

Be it as it may. I wouldn't buy one anyway. First of all, it's got a fixed roof and second, it's huge, heavy and butt-ugly.

MDLSLK55 · 03-28-2008

You can call it huge and heavy, but it still beats the Z06 from 0-100mph-0 for less money. And if it's not enough, there will be an even better one out in 2 years.

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It has been confirmed that Nissan is planning to introduce a lighter and more powerful GT-R called the GT-R V-Spec or possibly Spec V. Nissan has said that this model will be available in the United States in 2010 and will have 550 hp (410 kW) (an increase of 77 hp (57 kW)). It will also be 150 kg (330 lb) lighter. With these performance figures Nissan hopes to break the Nürburgring lap record for a stock vehicle.

Throw in intelligent all-wheel drive and a rear mounted 6-speed dual clutch semi-automatic gearbox with launch control and it gets awfully tempting.

MDLSLK55 · 03-28-2008

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Originally Posted by Ikarus

In my opinion, Nissan doesn't make a penny on this car (even though they make claims to the contrary), since if they would, they would boost production way beyond the current level. It's a classical halo car that mainly serves a marketing purpose.

They're limited by the fact that the engine and transmission are built by hand. It takes a single worker 200 minutes to build one engine.
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=124083

This makes me wonder how long it takes to build our AMG engines...perhaps Dan knows?

Ikarus · 03-28-2008

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Originally Posted by MDLSLK55

Nissan has said that this model will be available in the United States in 2010 and will have 550 hp (410 kW) (an increase of 77 hp (57 kW)). It will also be 150 kg (330 lb) lighter. With these performance figures Nissan hopes to break the Nürburgring lap record for a stock vehicle.

Well, good luck with that, or I guess it depends on how they define "stock vehicle". The current record for a road legal production car is held by a Radical SR8 with a power-to-weight ratio of 0.55 hp/kg. Considering that the current GT-R has less than half that, it'll have to lose quite a bit of fat to even get near

those 6:55

.

mtiede · 03-28-2008

Don't like the looks of the GT-R. Speed isn't important to me. Acceleration is more important. And looks and functionality (like the hardtop) are also more important. IMHO

HwoALanG · 03-28-2008

GT-R ~ is ugly~ ricer type of car....

**ir-ops** · 03-28-2008

sorry, 'no nissan zone' over here...

best/ir-ops

**snowbyhui** · 03-28-2008

no, would not consider unless it introduce a hardtop converitable version. That said, I do enjoy seeing it go head to head with all the high performance car that cost twice as much.

kenkenclub · 03-28-2008

can't call GT-R a ricer car, it's like call SLK a girl car...

i wish there will be a SLK63

**dsb** · 03-28-2008

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Originally Posted by Ikarus

Well, good luck with that, or I guess it depends on how they define "stock vehicle". The current record for a road legal production car is held by a Radical SR8 with a power-to-weight ratio of 0.55 hp/kg. Considering that the current GT-R has less than half that, it'll have to lose quite a bit of fat to even get near.

I don't think anyone would compare a Radical to a street car. Apples and oranges.

Yes, it's big and heavy but it does an amazing job with just about every performance figure. Besides, a few years ago, our cars were considered heavy. Weight continues to increase as vehicles get more complex especially considering all the safety equipment.

I'm quite intriqued wit the GTR. I'm always on the lookout for my replacement car. It's a credit to the SLK that I haven't found one yet. However, with proper cosmetic mods, a used '09 or '10 GTR might be in my future IF it's as entertaining to drive as the specs suggest.

MDLSLK55 · 03-28-2008

^ Check out these vids if you've never seen them:
http://www.autocar.co.uk/VideosWallp...AR=231443&CT=V
http://www.autocar.co.uk/VideosWallp...AR=231444&CT=V

They're also saying it's extremely underrated from Nissan, here's what the Amuse GT-R put down with just exhaust and an ECU:

Torque => 514 ft/lbs from 2600 to 6000 rpm, peak close to 540 ft/lbs over a good range.
HP => 532 whp and an estimated 606 hp at the crank.

**FishtailnZ** · 03-28-2008

A great car no doubt, but as other have said, I want a 'vert first and foremost. So nope, won't be trading mine on one.

Ikarus · 03-28-2008

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Originally Posted by dsb

I don't think anyone would compare a Radical to a street car. Apples and oranges.

It's a common misconception that apples and oranges cannot be compared.

But seriously, I could say with a similar justification that this future track-optimized GT-R 'cannot be compared' to a common SLK. In all these performance discussions, people tend to say cars 'cannot be compared', if it fits their agenda. Strangely enough, by letting them race on the ring and publish the numbers, comparison is just what is encouraged. Now, all it takes for Nissan is to find the right definition of 'car' to claim to be fastest around the Ring. Using road legality as a criterion isn't going to cut it, unless they get specific about the countries.

MDLSLK55 · 03-28-2008

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Originally Posted by Ikarus

Using road legality as a criterion isn't going to cut it, unless they get specific about the countries.

Since I don't know too much about the Radical, I was going to safely assume it's not street legal in the US, no?

Apples and oranges aside, I believe the goal for the Spec-V will be a lap time under 7:25, more than 13 seconds ahead of the current time. That would put it in front of the CCR, GT2, Carrera GT, and Zonda.

Ikarus · 03-28-2008

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Originally Posted by MDLSLK55

I believe the goal for the Spec-V will be a lap time under 7:25, more than 13 seconds ahead of the current time. That would put it in front of the CCR, GT2, Carrera GT, and Zonda.

I predict that by the time they get there, this is no longer enough. Already now, there is a claim that the Lexus LF-A mule posted a 7:24 and I don't think Porsche is going to wait and sit idle either.

As far as road-legality of the Radical in the US is concerned, it seems there are SVA kits available.

**Dolebludger** · 03-28-2008

I'd have to actually wait to see and drive a GT-R version that is actually offered in the US, and see what its actual price is. It brings back memories of the original Accura NSX which had an MSRP of $60K US that could be had only for $110K US by the time it reached my dealer's showroom. I drove one, and it felt like the Accord (of that era) unless I really revved the engine. I said "no thanks." Then, only a few years ago, everybody was saying I needed a BMW M3, I drove one, and it felt (to me) as if I were driving a very powerful concrete block!

BENZOslk280 · 03-29-2008

I would get the gtr but i can afford it

03-27-2008	#1 (permalink)
kenkenclub SLK World Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Pasadena Vehicle: SLK 55 B55s Other Toys: 997T Posts: 26 Country: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	does anyone think about trading in SLK for a GT-R? maybe it's a stupid topic, i mean SLK is much more luxury coupe. there two car don't really compete each other. but since some of us bought AMG version..I think SPEED does count as one of important factor,for almost same amount of money, you can get GT-R. WIll you trade in your car for a GT-R? I know the look of GT-R is not that great. I know it's a Nissan...

03-28-2008	#15 (permalink)
FishtailnZ Don't feed the trolls... Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Nfld., Canada Vehicle: 2009 C63 pipelined Other Toys: Wife, kids, dogs... Posts: 1,506 Country: Thanks: 294 Thanked 223 Times in 99 Posts	A great car no doubt, but as other have said, I want a 'vert first and foremost. So nope, won't be trading mine on one. __________________ - Bill Waiting on a 2009 C63 Fire Opal/Alpaca Premium+Media R.I.P. 2006 SLK55 Caspian Blue/Beige Stock 1/4 mile results: ET 12.72, trap 110.80, 60' 1.80 Some guys they just give up living and start dying little by little, piece by piece. Some guys come home from work and wash up and go racin' in the street... - B. Springsteen

03-27-2008	#2 (permalink)
MDLSLK55 Elite SLK World Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bucks County, PA & Overland Park, KS (Work) Vehicle: '08 SLK55 AMG Other Toys: '07 Infiniti G35x Posts: 214 Country: Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	What's wrong with the look and Nissan? It's an awesome car and will be even more awesome after it's out for a year and the dealers stop marking up orders 30-50K. Several of my friends wanted me to wait for it to come out and forego the SLK, but I wasn't interested. I will say I'd consider it down the road, but not for at least 2 years.

03-27-2008	#3 (permalink)
Tslick Elite SLK World Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Long Beach, Ca Vehicle: SLK32 AMG Posts: 1,326 Country: Thanks: 75 Thanked 56 Times in 29 Posts	It's what you want. Myself, I'd think it would be a great second car (I don't like a roof over my head).

03-28-2008	#8 (permalink)
mtiede Founding Member #7 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Western New York Vehicle: 2006 SLK 350 Posts: 1,645 Thanks: 102 Thanked 55 Times in 45 Posts	Don't like the looks of the GT-R. Speed isn't important to me. Acceleration is more important. And looks and functionality (like the hardtop) are also more important. IMHO

03-28-2008	#9 (permalink)
HwoALanG Elite SLK World Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ellicott City & Salisbury, MD Vehicle: 2007 SLK 280 Other Toys: COMPUTER? And1 and on Posts: 306 Country: Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	GT-R ~ is ugly~ ricer type of car....

03-28-2008	#10 (permalink)
ir-ops Lifetime SLK World Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Athens, Greece Vehicle: happily owning a 2008 black on black manual/sport r171 200k f/l since july 2008 Posts: 595 Country: Thanks: 142 Thanked 71 Times in 46 Posts	sorry, 'no nissan zone' over here... best/ir-ops

03-28-2008	#11 (permalink)
snowbyhui Elite SLK World Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Toronto, Canada Vehicle: 06 SLK55 Other Toys: Lexus 400h, Wii Posts: 202 Country: Thanks: 36 Thanked 44 Times in 24 Posts	no, would not consider unless it introduce a hardtop converitable version. That said, I do enjoy seeing it go head to head with all the high performance car that cost twice as much.

03-28-2008	#12 (permalink)
kenkenclub SLK World Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Pasadena Vehicle: SLK 55 B55s Other Toys: 997T Posts: 26 Country: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	can't call GT-R a ricer car, it's like call SLK a girl car... i wish there will be a SLK63

03-28-2008	#14 (permalink)
MDLSLK55 Elite SLK World Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bucks County, PA & Overland Park, KS (Work) Vehicle: '08 SLK55 AMG Other Toys: '07 Infiniti G35x Posts: 214 Country: Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	^ Check out these vids if you've never seen them: http://www.autocar.co.uk/VideosWallp...AR=231443&CT=V http://www.autocar.co.uk/VideosWallp...AR=231444&CT=V They're also saying it's extremely underrated from Nissan, here's what the Amuse GT-R put down with just exhaust and an ECU: Torque => 514 ft/lbs from 2600 to 6000 rpm, peak close to 540 ft/lbs over a good range. HP => 532 whp and an estimated 606 hp at the crank.

03-28-2008	#19 (permalink)
Dolebludger Elite SLK World Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Yukon, OK Vehicle: '07 SLK 280; '04 C 320, '01 Honda S 2000, '98 Ford Ranger truck. Posts: 569 Country: Thanks: 40 Thanked 78 Times in 52 Posts	I'd have to actually wait to see and drive a GT-R version that is actually offered in the US, and see what its actual price is. It brings back memories of the original Accura NSX which had an MSRP of $60K US that could be had only for $110K US by the time it reached my dealer's showroom. I drove one, and it felt like the Accord (of that era) unless I really revved the engine. I said "no thanks." Then, only a few years ago, everybody was saying I needed a BMW M3, I drove one, and it felt (to me) as if I were driving a very powerful concrete block!

03-29-2008	#20 (permalink)
BENZOslk280 SLK World Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: PA Vehicle: 2007 slk280 Other Toys: crotch rocket Posts: 2 Country: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I would get the gtr but i can afford it

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