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I wasn't using that car to have a go at you i was just mentioning it since it was already in conversation.

I could substitute the SLR for a BMW M or a Porsche, it was just the car i decided to use for examples sake as it had been mentioned.

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Personally I think the new gtr is fugly. However, I tend to agree with Icarus. For 69k that thing is damn fast. Beating a 911 turbo, is no easy feat. Would I take it over the slk55? No, but then again I didn't buy the car only for the performance. I bought it also for the looks as well as it's day to day functionality and comfort. If the gtr were my weekend car, I'd definitely consider it or something even more hardcore, a lotus.

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Coming from a Japanese car owner, I actually prefer the SLK. There is something just not "right" about the looks of the GT-R. Certainly, it's performance envelope is impressive, but taken as the whole package...I find it lacking.

GT-R Pro's: Will be fairly rare if you seek to be unique. Excellent performance easily beating out many super-cars of the current era. I like the AWD setup.

GT-R Cons: A "love it" or "hate it" appearance. Personally, I don't really care for it. The image of a "plastic" construction, whether you have full leather or not.

SLK Pro's: The Mercedes image and the quality that goes with it. A hard top - drop top, which is probably one of it's greatest virtues. While not as quick as the GT-R, the performance is still outstanding. Honestly, unless you track your SLK, you will probably rarely push the envelope of what this car can do on the streets.

SLK Cons: Hard to see any really...Perhaps the expense of performance upgrades if you require higher performance or do intend to track your SLK.

Overall, if speed were the only thing I was interested in, I would just buy an EVO or STI and put 10 - 15k in performance upgrades (kind of what I did) and you'll get a much faster car than the GT-R, though modified.

Both cars have things to offer a prospective buyer. But, considering the whole package you get with the SLK...looks, quality, hard top convertible...it's just very hard to beat it. It really is the closest thing to a complete package on the market at the moment.

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some test number from motortrend.


These results were closely clustered:

430.6 hp @ 6700 rpm & 425.3 lb-ft @ 3900 rpm
425.8 hp @ 6000 rpm & 433.1 lb-ft @ 3800 rpm
435.8 hp @ 6800 rpm & 439.1 lb-ft @ 3900 rpm


K&N's policy is to select the median of three consistent runs, which was the first of our fourth-gear runs.

Well, if it's 480 as claimed, the power lost to heat and friction in the drivetrain amounts to just 10.3 percent. "No way," says K&N's James Yim

Weather corrected dyno figures 15% loss 20% loss 25% loss
Horsepower 506 538 574

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That 3.2-second zero-to-60 mph time ties our best runs in a Porsche 911 Turbo and a 911 GT3-R, and trails only the Ferrari Enzo (3.1 sec) and Bugatti Veyron (2.7 sec) among production test cars. Our 11.6-second quarter-mile time ties the mighty Mercedes-Benz McLaren SLR's, but 13 other supercars manage to squeak ahead of our GT-R's elapsed time. Its trap speed of 120 mph is neck-and-neck with the Porsche 911 Turbo's, but at least 20 different models we've tested can top that figure.

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You are all rationalizing emotion for a car, which is completely irrelevant when you talk about the hard performance numbers. To simply say a Porsche is better, or a Corvette faster, is quite immature. The Z06 is probably quicker around anything if you give it to Tiff Needle, but if you gave the average schmuck who likes cars a Z06, he'll kill himself, or he would run circles around nearly anything with a GTR. Thats the beauty about it, that its the poor mans Porsche that he can drive everyday, and I doubt that we can all tell the difference.

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Ikarus, what i was trying to say was the SLK 350 is really lacking in performance when compared to the GTR. I wasn't really paying attention when i typed that. I SHOULD have said, 'i wouldn't consider a 350 given the choice between the SLK and the GTR.'

Anyhow, the new GTR looks a lot better in person, but no matter what, it's an ugly car, obviosly meant to focus you on the performance...the Japanese designers are stuck in a feedback loop...their cars influence anime, which influences their cars, which influences their anime.....
the front headlight stretches TOO far back, almost like they are blown back by the wind, the roof has that stupid kink in it that looks like it's being ripped up, the front fenders and the rear fenders were designed by different designers and didn't see each others design on debut day, and the ass is too high up. Overall proportions are great, but the cars details ruin it...they tried too hard. Given the price/performance though, I wouldn't even care what the car looked...

This car is obviously a Halo car for Nissan, i'll bet all their executives drive one. They are extremely protective of the car, trying to keep the dealers from putting mark ups on it, and not offering ANY options on the car (besides stereo, air bags, and heated seats). The Asia Spec cars cannot even have the rims swapped without setting off error codes (nothing to do with tire pressure, they simply don't want you to change the design). I'll bet they are selling the car near cost as well, just to keep it competitive (Japanese manufacturers traditionally have no qualms about setting ridiculous prices on their cars...their track spec 350Z is around $300'000 US, and includes not much more than a roll cage and body kit, and reworked engine). Previous GTRs have listed at around the $100'000 mark.

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Please don't take this the wrong way but I'm not rationalizing anything in fact today i used my car for the first time in a week and got to drop the top, listening to that beautiful sledge hammer of an engine suck in air, perform some sort of sex act on it then throw it out of the exhaust pipe with that almighty roar made my spine tingle i don't have to rationalize anything i love my car and it will be a cold day in hell when any Nissan has the same effect.

You ask for an opinion and you get an opinion, your welcome to state your views on the subject but comments like "our GT-R" are not doing you any favors whatsoever.

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Like many other forums, it's funny to see the GTR get polar opposite reviews. It is in fact a love or hate type car.

I still think it's intriguing that they have such an awesome performance vehicle especially considering it's cost and weight. Looks aside, I think it's amazing. I'd have to see it in person before I commit to totally hating the appearance though.

I think Arcbmwz3 did a nice little comparo. When you look at the overall package, the SLK55 is hard to beat. I bet the average Joe would think the SLK costs $100k and the GTR costs <$40k.

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oh..i forgot, this is quote from motor trend...not from me..sorry
my english is nowhere near that good... ha ha

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Right OK i see

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Check, please.

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Well, in racing dress, almost any car will look good. Now, how about this? Completely and utterly hideous, if you ask me.

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ikarus, can't agree more...

here a slight spark:
i still don't see why the direct comparison between a mb and a nissan...

don't want to sound snobbish or arrogant (i might be both, but it is not polite to utter such behaviour in a forum, is it? ), but regardless how torquey, speedy, or costly, are we to ignore the associated prestige factor?

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I can't speak for others, but I would hope that anyone who is driving an SLK55 AMG is interested in the car for reasons other than a means to get from one place to another. Personally, I was a member of a local car forum for all enthusiasts with any make/model of car before I was a member of a specific branded forum. When I was looking for a car a little over a year ago, I had a pretty long list of prospects. I had to balance performance, price, overall package, and my personal tastes and priorities in order to narrow down the list. For a while, I was torn between the SLK and a regular 2008 Corvette (LS3) or a Z06. Aside from performance, which clearly goes in favor of the corvette, these choices are polar opposites. Ultimately, I decided that the SLK was the right balance of performance, luxury, and style for the right price.

That being said, I am still intrigued by any car that offers amazing performance for the right price. I'd say the reason someone might compare the GT-R to the SLK55 is the fact that it only costs 5K more and would run circles around it no matter what the application (except seeing who can get somewhere faster with the top down ).

At the end of the day, it's a question of your own priorities and whether or not you can live without a folding hardtop and a MB emblem in order to drive one of or perhaps the best performing car ever made for less than $80K. I can't answer that question for anyone else, but you can clearly see what my choice has been so far. I will say though, that I would never dismiss a car simply because of the emblem on the front.

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Once again, I say to each and every one his or her own opinion. However, buying a car for me is also an emotional decision. The Nissan is a beast, but the Slk is sex on wheels...

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agree with yrs mdlslk55,

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agree with yrs mdlslk55, and pls don't get me wrong; i more like wanted to trigger some clever responses, than really degrade the nissan name, as, and i trust we agree on that, there is indeed a certain amount of prestige associated with the mb marquee...

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