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Old 05-14-2007   #1 (permalink)
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One of my friends invited me to a S2000 club meeting. I took my SLK230 there and met some of the import enthusiasts. The cars consisted of a black s2000 with twin CAI, flywheel, upgraded throttle body, full header back exhaust and racing clutch, a silver s2000 with bilstein shocks, struts and springs and a full header back exhaust, body kit and 18 inch rims with michelin pilot sport cups, a orange supercharged s2k with twin cold air intakes and a borla exhuast and lastly a blue stock S2k and of course me. After we talked and I learned about the cars we went for a country road drive with extreme bends at around 11PM. The road was empty and went in between two mountains w/ non stop curve. The first turn was rated as a 35MPH turn and I went in at around 50 mph and started accelerating slowly behind the silver S2000. I kept on accelerating till around 65mph and my back end started to slide progressively but what astonished me was the S2000 was not even giving signs of approaching its limit. I was wondering what I could do to make my car keep up with the S2000s. Even though I was behind by almost 40 car lengths it was still a great run.
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Were your tires giving a hint of squeal? If so, try Eagle F1 GSD3 tires. I replaced the Pirellis on my C280 with the F1's and the handling greatly improved.

Once you have tires that glue you to the road, then work out the suspension bits. Grip and handling are two different things, but starting with the best grip should give you hints in the SLK handling department.

My SLK55 came with Pirelli P-Zerro Rosso, so I've got to run them down before I can give a good review. I've only got 1,400 miles on it so far.
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My first thought is low tire pressure. Next time try 34psi cold (should rise to 36psi hot) all around, then adjust from there. The R170 has recirculating ball steering which induces pushing but I found out increasing the tire pressure reduced the push and tire squeal.
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try coilovers to lower your cars stance, reduces bodyroll and aids tight cornering. then it is all in your tyres. a strut brace also helps.
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I owned a Honda S2000 for 5 years before I bought my SLK 350 this year. If the roads are dry and tyres in good nick then it does hold the road well. However if it is at all wet or the tyres have little tread then beware. Here in England a fair number have been wrecked by enthusiastic driving in the wet plus older versions have no stability control
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my friend has an s2k. in a str8 line he is very very very slightly quicker than my 280. however round corners he holds it better, as mine starts to go, but his sticks. they have a differntial as standard which our cars miss alot.
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Were your tires giving a hint of squeal? If so, try Eagle F1 GSD3 tires. I replaced the Pirellis on my C280 with the F1's and the handling greatly improved.

Once you have tires that glue you to the road, then work out the suspension bits. Grip and handling are two different things, but starting with the best grip should give you hints in the SLK handling department.

My SLK55 came with Pirelli P-Zerro Rosso, so I've got to run them down before I can give a good review. I've only got 1,400 miles on it so far.
I have Continental ContiSportContact 2s which are plenty sticky, they are a great tire and I can tell that if the car had less body roll they wouldn't break out as easily, so im thinking about getting some eibach or h and r springs, coilovers are way to expensive...
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Start by adding an LSD diff,lowering springs, sport shocks.
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