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View Poll Results: Do you trust your dealer/indy?
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Old 12-27-2006   #1 (permalink)
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Something i have been wondering for a long time.

How many of you actually trust your dealer not the sales department but the parts and service people.

Do you feel you can trust them not to burn you?

I would really appreciate as many replies as possible guys and gals i am trying to build up an overall look here having seen both people elated with the service provided to people who have had car parts stolen when in the dealers care (this one i find particularly upsetting)
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For the vast majority of my previous cars I've used a local non-dealer affiliated mechanical shop. But those were all domestic cars, and none of them in the same class as the SLK. As good as that shop was..is..they specialize in domestics and know those inside out -can't say the same for other brands though. So for the first time in a long time, I'll be depending on the dealership for any work that has to be done. How that works out remains to be seen. So for me I guess, knowing the shop/mechanics is the most important part.
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This thread was prompted by the fact that my mum was ripped off at a dealership for several hundred pounds worth of parts that she purchased only to have them end up on a techs car and her running ancient wrecks leading to engine seizure and the loss of the vehicle this was unfortunately not discovered until today.

Its a shame that this business is in such a state of affairs i mean yeah dealers have always been expensive but that used to stand for something a very well trained tech who cared for the vehicles he worked on now i find them to be employing thief's and playing real nasty tricks.

Windscreens/Windshields are another an OEM MB screen will set you back a lot of cash but will fit like a glove a non OEM will not set you back anywhere near as much but will cause problems down the line its however funny that the customer always pays for OEM.

I am proud to say that my shop has never experienced anything like this i think partly because we have a generally older set of staff that are teaching the newbies not just a computer screen and the fact that behavior like this would simply not be tolerated in fact i would not put it past some of the techs here to make the offender part of a cars ignition system if something like this where to happen because its all about respect.

If you can watch as your cars are being worked on i urge you to do so i consider each and every single member of this site a friend and that means i have a duty to inform you of this sort of **** if you don't trust the kid down the road to do the work without you keeping watch then don't trust your dealership in fact its probably the same person.

I look forward to the responses this thread will hopefully attract and again ask you all to be careful with your pride and joy.
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i have an indy that i trust 100%, but since i'm still under warranty, everything goes to the dealer. i'd like to trust them, but my confidence took a big hit when i saw some detectives walk in and moments later walk out with a mechanic in handcuffs. innocent until proven guilty, but not a good image for customers to see.
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If you trust the Indy mate then my advice to you would be use them for as much as possible so long as you stick to MB OEM or parts recommend by the reputable tuners or whatever you will be fine
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I had (I say "had" because I'm not there anymore.) a good technician who owned his own shop and was always up front about what I needed and what it was going to cost.

When I did go to the dealer to have my taillights replaced under recall, the servicing rep came out with $1300 worth of suggested services. About $400 of it I had already had done within the last month or so and about half the other stuff I could do myself.

As for the parts dept., it's a toss-up. I had a sales rep save me a few bucks on the first aid kit I had to buy, but when I went to check the replacement cost on my windshield, I was just floored! $450 for the glass and another $200 to install!! Not wanting to go with anything from Mexico and certainly not wanting to wait until I got here to Germany (Glass is like precious metals here.), I got my parts guy in CA to get it for me at wholesale and paid a local windshield install place $125 to install it.

Overall, I didn't care for my local dealership, they made you feel like if you're not driving a Merc of upper-class status, then they almost don't have time for you. 'Course, most of Las Vegas was like that anyway...good riddance.

BTW, the dealership is Fletcher Jones of Las Vegas.
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since my last experience, no and I've decided to give its chance to an independent Mercedes shop the next time I need servicing.
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I would only return to any dealer for a major warranty item. The SLK is the exception to maintain the warranty. There are excellent dealers and excellent mechanics. There are more that don't fall in that category. It's sad when you can't return to the authorized dealer and get satisfactory service. I would prefer a trusted, competent, mechanic for repair work.
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I have more trust in the mechanics than in the suits. With the
latter, I'm not sure if it is a trust issue or a competence issue.
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Having come from owning an Audi TT to an SLK I was rather hoping long trips to a reputable / knowledgeable dealer were over, sadly not. I always took the TT up to the oxford area where there are a number of good garages. It looks like I will be making the same trip with the SLK. I live less than a mile from my local Mercedes Dealership which makes it all the more annoying.

Is it worth contacting Mercedes and telling them what we think or has this already been done.
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Well, it is hard for me to vote 100% but each time I went to my dealer I have been taken care of and treated with respect.

Items I thought were not covered by my extended warranty were covered???

Having the base model SLK I was surprised to be treated so well.

Dealer is MB of North Houston.

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Having come from owning an Audi TT to an SLK I was rather hoping long trips to a reputable / knowledgeable dealer were over, sadly not. I always took the TT up to the oxford area where there are a number of good garages. It looks like I will be making the same trip with the SLK. I live less than a mile from my local Mercedes Dealership which makes it all the more annoying.

Is it worth contacting Mercedes and telling them what we think or has this already been done.
To be fair its not really Merc's problem most dealers including the one i work at are independently owned and its the responsibility of the group to maintain the standards only if things get real bad would MB pull the chain on them.

It might be worth getting hold of the groups MD and having a word with them see if you get anywhere
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I think what kills a dealership is what they say they are going to do they should and if they mess up they put it right. BUT !!!! to say all the right things and then smile sickly when the work has not been done. or the comments coming back like, oh not again, just looses your confidence.

I think a lot of it also boils down to a captive market, tons of customers then who cares, a few customers lets look after them. In my experience London and south east dealerships tend to be poor. Move towards the midlands you get better service at a reduced cost.
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The dealer in Honolulu had a bad rep. Sales and service. I caught them charging items not done, part missing and other disasters of work. Once the warranty ran out I was back with the local indy.
Once the dealership was sold and a couple of years go by I hear good things. Go back, go the car I want and out I go.
NOW comes the service. No better if not worse, can't figure out things, don't know what to do but are more concerned with ratings.
Last week's visit was the same, I wanted to get some items one the TSB listing checked, asked if they check all that are outstanding for the car, Yep no problem. When I get there the service rep (won't let you talk to a mechanic but must have this clean service rep talk to you) says they do not check TSB's unless I complain about each item.
I tell them NO wash, they did and did a bad job.
I asked for a safety check and was told that they do not issue to anyone that doesn't have an insurance card printed at the insurance office (mine sends me proof cards by email).
I asked the cracked turn signal on the mirror be replaced under warranty and he says they can't.
THEN he asks that I rate him high if called by MBUSA.
Yesterday I get a call from one of their reps for a rating and I rate him and them low. Her answer was, "You may get contacted by MBUSA so please rate your rep excellent". Again another one that doesn't listen.
I resolved that I would not buy another car from them, even though the sales side has improved, unless they fixed my turn signal (longer story) and that had no affect.
SOOO no more MB's unless I get to the mainland and buy.
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Will always take the SLK to the same garage. its not an official Merc one but it does only sell high quality sports orientated cars + I can trust them.

The car lost it Full-Merc history before I bought it anyways so it's not gonna add value or anything. Think the previous owner decided to take it to a non-merc garage because it's previous merc service was around £900 (£500 of this was labour). There wasn't even anything major to replace, just wiper blades, Oil, Filters etc. Everything was way overpriced (I'm sure they must have flouted some VAT rules along the way too by the looks of it. The dealership itemised every item at cost (Which seemed to include VAT already, which they already would claim back to offset there Output VAT). At the bottom of the invoice the 17.5% was then added on. Seemed to be double counted if you ask me. Anyway, wasn't me car then - just persuaded me never to take it back to the merc garage.
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Wouldn't it be good if you could install cameras in your car so you could keep an eye on the mechanics? I'm pretty sure if Dan and NR4L got there technical abilities together they could come up with something. You could have two models a covert one, for interesting playback later, or a bloody great huge one as you open the bonnet / hood to act as a deterrent? They'd definitely think twice about pulling any strokes then!!

I always remember driving my fathers C Class some years ago when someone bump into the front of it. I didn't look like anything major so I took it to Mercedes Benz of Sheffield for a quote the guy in the repairs department started to reel off various different parts that probably would have been damaged in the impact. He then went on to give an estimate of £950.00. Even though I have a limited technical knowledge of motor vehicles I thought that it was a little excessive so I decided to get a second opinion from Mercedes Benz of Wakefield. The guy there looked at it and said all that it needed was a plastic insert which was a couple of pounds and the bumper needed realigning, total cost £65.00. Needless to say I wont be getting my car serviced at Mercedes Benz of Sheffield!!
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