S2000 Kill (unknown year) - Page 2

MCFaisal · 05-19-2007

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Originally Posted by alroumi

Mc Faisal, Eisenmann mufflers? Ive been waiting for them for ages when where they released? and any sound clips with the Super
Sprint headers ?

Thank you in advance.

He has Supersprint Headers w/ Renntech mufflers sorry I dont know why I wrote eisenmann, I really thought thats what he had...

**alroumi** · 05-21-2007

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Originally Posted by MCFaisal

He has Supersprint Headers w/ Renntech mufflers sorry I dont know why I wrote eisenmann, I really thought thats what he had...

No probs, Renntech hmm, I will look out for it.

**F111F** · 05-21-2007

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Originally Posted by MCFaisal

Lexington is a great city with many SLK owners, both R170 and R171. I love my R170 and I meet on a daily basis with many car enthusiasts. If you haven't heard, lexington is the capitol of horse racing and I haven't been to a single horse race. The typical accent here isn't country, you now only find that in remote areas of the state( i.g eastern kentucky). Now, that I have cleared my background up, I'll move back to the discussion. Honda's S2000 is a great vehicle many can agree on that. My personal opinion would be that beating a S2000 in a straight line is not hard. I wouldn't consider it a kill because thats not the purpose of the car. The purpose of the car is to take those low speed bends. Now, take for example the SLK55.... My buddy then gained alot of respect for that vehicle, considering that a stock s2k could handle that well. Ever since then I have always respected that car. Thats why when I hear people killing S2Ks, its hard for me to believe.

That is why going to track day, really shows you what you got and how well you drive. Last track day, I was getting busted by small Miata's and Lotus, even though I have a bigger engine, they handle much better through tight turns (racing slicks also make a big difference). It comes down to how well you can drive your car and the ability to get though the track. I have seen S2K's perform poorly on a track and some that do well. Mostly has to do with the driver.

MCFaisal · 05-21-2007

The guy my friend raced tracks his S2000 every weekend so he has moderate experience.

slktyperice · 05-31-2007

Sad, sad day. I was on the 134 East (this is in LA), cruising at 80mph by myself, all of a sudden a red S2000 pulls up behind me fast and tails me, he pulls into the next lane and downshifts (I know he's gonna go), so I downshift too and take off. Between 80 and 120mph, he slowly gains 2 car lengths on me, and after 120, he takes off. I lift my foot off when I hit 140mph, but by then he was 8 car lengths ahead of me. I was like no f***ing way, there were 2 people in the S2000!

Is the VTEC at high revs adding that much more power?

**Ynot** · 05-31-2007

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Originally Posted by slktyperice

Sad, sad day. I was on the 134 East (this is in LA), cruising at 80mph by myself, all of a sudden a red S2000 pulls up behind me fast and tails me, he pulls into the next lane and downshifts (I know he's gonna go), so I downshift too and take off. Between 80 and 120mph, he slowly gains 2 car lengths on me, and after 120, he takes off. I lift my foot off when I hit 140mph, but by then he was 8 car lengths ahead of me. I was like no f***ing way, there were 2 people in the S2000!

Is the VTEC at high revs adding that much more power?

Doesn't sound likely unless he has a SC/TC on that thing, which is very likely as alot of S2000's are going that route. The S2000 and the SLK350 is evenly matched, a driver's race, but with add weight, one extra person, and at 80mph and up, stock vs stock, you should win. I would not feel too bad, doubt if it's NA.

Here's the R&D comparisons.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...data_panel.pdf

I've driven the S2K on several occassions, and it doesn't feel fast, probably due to the low torque, especially at 5200 feet and up, it screams but doesn't feel like it goes, unlike my SLK, it feels really fast. I envy people that live in sea level, I remember driven my cousin's minivan and I thought it was superfast, cars breathe much easier at lower elevation.

leelk · 06-01-2007

that was a good kill. I'm not a big fan of S2000, although it's a sport convertible with reasonable price range~!

leelk · 06-01-2007

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Originally Posted by Ynot

Doesn't sound likely unless he has a SC/TC on that thing, which is very likely as alot of S2000's are going that route. The S2000 and the SLK350 is evenly matched, a driver's race, but with add weight, one extra person, and at 80mph and up, stock vs stock, you should win. I would not feel too bad, doubt if it's NA.

Here's the R&D comparisons.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/d...data_panel.pdf

I've driven the S2K on several occassions, and it doesn't feel fast, probably due to the low torque, especially at 5200 feet and up, it screams but doesn't feel like it goes, unlike my SLK, it feels really fast. I envy people that live in sea level, I remember driven my cousin's minivan and I thought it was superfast, cars breathe much easier at lower elevation.

I feel the same on "cars breathe much easier at lower elevation" too. I was from Colorado as well, and after I bought my perious car to Cali, my car runs alot faster~!

**Ynot** · 06-01-2007

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Originally Posted by leelk

I feel the same on "cars breathe much easier at lower elevation" too. I was from Colorado as well, and after I bought my perious car to Cali, my car runs alot faster~!

Yeah, the best mod for my SLK is to tak it to Cali,

.... on NA cars, you can really feel it.

Addicted2Speed · 06-02-2007

MCFaisal, calm down. The poster was not talking smack about S2000, he simply posted about his experience racing one on a highway. All this thread was about was some stupid immature S2K driver thinking he could outgun the SLK and loosing, end of story. In this particular scenario, the race was a drag race and the SLK won. When one car outperforms another car, its a kill. It doesn't matter if its on a race track, a drag strip, a mountain road, or whatever. A kill is a kill. You get challanged to a race, you race , you win. End of story. Why even start arguing about other potential scenarios? What are you trying to prove to us man?

MCFaisal · 06-02-2007

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Originally Posted by Addicted2Speed

MCFaisal, calm down. The poster was not talking smack about S2000, he simply posted about his experience racing one on a highway. All this thread was about was some stupid immature S2K driver thinking he could outgun the SLK and loosing, end of story. In this particular scenario, the race was a drag race and the SLK won. When one car outperforms another car, its a kill. It doesn't matter if its on a race track, a drag strip, a mountain road, or whatever. A kill is a kill. You get challanged to a race, you race , you win. End of story. Why even start arguing about other potential scenarios? What are you trying to prove to us man?

i really dont know what im trying to prove, but i am saying that people shouldnt look down to a s2000

MCFaisal · 06-02-2007

SLK350 vs. S2000 the 350 should take the win because of the huge torque advantage..

most S2000s have mods done to them as they aren't as expensive to mod as the SLK. Everyone who owns S2000 here in my town( around 15 of them) only one is bone stock. At most the S2000 does 0-60 in 5.2 seconds w/ a amazing driver. The 350 does it in 5.4 if im not mistaken.

cyberdrakon · 06-02-2007

The issue here is MCFaisal has a different definition for a kill compared the rest of us. For him, a kill is when the black horse wins, for us a kill is whenever the challenge is answered and is defeated.

**Ynot** · 06-02-2007

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Originally Posted by MCFaisal

SLK350 vs. S2000 the 350 should take the win because of the huge torque advantage..

most S2000s have mods done to them as they aren't as expensive to mod as the SLK. Everyone who owns S2000 here in my town( around 15 of them) only one is bone stock. At most the S2000 does 0-60 in 5.2 seconds w/ a amazing driver. The 350 does it in 5.4 if im not mistaken.

I've never seen a stock run 5.2 secs to 60mph, I thought it was a 14 sec 1/4 mile car, I know it's top speed is a couple of miles slower in the 1/4, on the top end the SLK should pull from it easily. From a stop light, it's a driver's race. The S2000 is a big go-kart so I'm not surprise at it's handling capabilities, I was trolling the s2ki.com forum and it seems like everyone beats it, I highly doubt that, I know a stock SLK vs a stock S2000 at this elevation (5200 ft up), the SLK will win, the s2k loose alot more hp here, it's lack of torque doesn't help either, regardless, the s2k is a fun car, I would get it if I couldn't afford a SLK.

slktyperice · 06-04-2007

So we all know SLK350 should be faster than a S2000 stock for stock from a standstill.

My experience being the victim of a kill was from cruising at 80mph, going up to 130mph. Since the hp/torque curves of our engine vs. the F20C S2000 engine (depending on model year) are different, how would the SLK350 compare to a stock S2000 at cruising speeds? Do you think the S2000 was modded? The simple I/H/E + ECU will probably give it another 25hp I'm sure.

Whosdis · 06-06-2007

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Originally Posted by MCFaisal

depends on what forum your on, muscle car or euro forums usually post drag races. Import forums usually talk about track days and what not. Im not saying that euro or american cars don't mention track day races but, I personally don't consider beating a S2k in a straight line is worthy of mentioning. Its like saying a bugatti beats a carrera gt on a straight is a kill, but the carrera gt has the better lap time on the nurburgring. Its all opinionated though.

But here's the thing. The guy(?) in the s2k wasn't looking for him to book track time to see who would get their ass kicked. It was a simple "hey man! You think you're so cool in your SLK? Eat this!" So, he was eaten, digested and, well, you know what happens next!

MCFaisal · 06-06-2007

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Originally Posted by slktyperice

So we all know SLK350 should be faster than a S2000 stock for stock from a standstill.

My experience being the victim of a kill was from cruising at 80mph, going up to 130mph. Since the hp/torque curves of our engine vs. the F20C S2000 engine (depending on model year) are different, how would the SLK350 compare to a stock S2000 at cruising speeds? Do you think the S2000 was modded? The simple I/H/E + ECU will probably give it another 25hp I'm sure.

I highly doubt that it was stock because my best friend has a bone stock S2000 and I have a SLK230. I raced him from a standstill and he pulled away and after 20 seconds of gunning it he was 4 car lengths ahead. So if you have a 350 stock for stock you should be able to take a S2 both low and high speeds. The faster you go the more you should gain on the s2. Back here in lexington,ky 80% of the s2 owners have mods done to their cars. The craziest s2 I have seen is one w/ a s/c which does the quarter mile in 12 seconds( probably faster w/ better tires) it has around 450RWHP according to the owner which sounds about right.

MCFaisal · 06-06-2007

Also, was the car loud, thats the first thing most s2 owners do is change the exhaust system...

slktyperice · 06-06-2007

The S2K wasn't loud, and appeared bone stock. That's what puzzled me the most. Say it was a 2006/2007 S2000, no chance they could beat me bone stock right?

**Ynot** · 06-06-2007

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Originally Posted by slktyperice

The S2K wasn't loud, and appeared bone stock. That's what puzzled me the most. Say it was a 2006/2007 S2000, no chance they could beat me bone stock right?

06, 07, you should beat it stock for stock, given you don't redline or mis-shift, most honda's don't have loud exhaust b/c it's not cool anymore. But like I said before it's very rare to see a non-modded one on the road.

05-31-2007	#25 (permalink)
slktyperice Senior SLK World Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 114 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I got owned by a S2000 Sad, sad day. I was on the 134 East (this is in LA), cruising at 80mph by myself, all of a sudden a red S2000 pulls up behind me fast and tails me, he pulls into the next lane and downshifts (I know he's gonna go), so I downshift too and take off. Between 80 and 120mph, he slowly gains 2 car lengths on me, and after 120, he takes off. I lift my foot off when I hit 140mph, but by then he was 8 car lengths ahead of me. I was like no f***ing way, there were 2 people in the S2000! Is the VTEC at high revs adding that much more power?

05-21-2007	#24 (permalink)
MCFaisal SLK World Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: lexington Vehicle: 2001 Stock SLK230 silver Posts: 95 Country: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The guy my friend raced tracks his S2000 every weekend so he has moderate experience.

06-01-2007	#27 (permalink)
leelk Senior SLK World Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Ramon, CA Vehicle: 06 SLK55 AMG Posts: 135 Country: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	that was a good kill. I'm not a big fan of S2000, although it's a sport convertible with reasonable price range~!

06-02-2007	#30 (permalink)
Addicted2Speed Elite SLK World Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 223 Country: Thanks: 0 Thanked 17 Times in 5 Posts	MCFaisal, calm down. The poster was not talking smack about S2000, he simply posted about his experience racing one on a highway. All this thread was about was some stupid immature S2K driver thinking he could outgun the SLK and loosing, end of story. In this particular scenario, the race was a drag race and the SLK won. When one car outperforms another car, its a kill. It doesn't matter if its on a race track, a drag strip, a mountain road, or whatever. A kill is a kill. You get challanged to a race, you race , you win. End of story. Why even start arguing about other potential scenarios? What are you trying to prove to us man?

06-02-2007	#32 (permalink)
MCFaisal SLK World Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: lexington Vehicle: 2001 Stock SLK230 silver Posts: 95 Country: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	SLK350 vs. S2000 the 350 should take the win because of the huge torque advantage.. most S2000s have mods done to them as they aren't as expensive to mod as the SLK. Everyone who owns S2000 here in my town( around 15 of them) only one is bone stock. At most the S2000 does 0-60 in 5.2 seconds w/ a amazing driver. The 350 does it in 5.4 if im not mistaken.

06-02-2007	#33 (permalink)
cyberdrakon Elite SLK World Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: SoCal, USA Vehicle: SLK55 2006 Other Toys: 560SEC 1990, CLK500 2005 Posts: 1,379 Country: Thanks: 23 Thanked 61 Times in 40 Posts	The issue here is MCFaisal has a different definition for a kill compared the rest of us. For him, a kill is when the black horse wins, for us a kill is whenever the challenge is answered and is defeated.

06-04-2007	#35 (permalink)
slktyperice Senior SLK World Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 114 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	So we all know SLK350 should be faster than a S2000 stock for stock from a standstill. My experience being the victim of a kill was from cruising at 80mph, going up to 130mph. Since the hp/torque curves of our engine vs. the F20C S2000 engine (depending on model year) are different, how would the SLK350 compare to a stock S2000 at cruising speeds? Do you think the S2000 was modded? The simple I/H/E + ECU will probably give it another 25hp I'm sure.

06-06-2007	#38 (permalink)
MCFaisal SLK World Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: lexington Vehicle: 2001 Stock SLK230 silver Posts: 95 Country: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Also, was the car loud, thats the first thing most s2 owners do is change the exhaust system...

06-06-2007	#39 (permalink)
slktyperice Senior SLK World Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 114 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The S2K wasn't loud, and appeared bone stock. That's what puzzled me the most. Say it was a 2006/2007 S2000, no chance they could beat me bone stock right?