R171 Fog Light Holder Part#

noregret4life · 09-13-2006

Hey Dan,

I ended up putting in the Silverstar bulbs into my fog lights but really didn't like them at all. There was almost no change in the color temp. They seemed to be slightly brighter, but still no where near HID color.
Still left to try the various Jap bulbs.

I think i am going to go through with the HID install for the fog lights, as it is sitting in my garage already. So i wanted to get a part number for those bulb holders in the "Cornering" foglights. Also have the cornering feature disabled next time i go in for service.

On the holder itself it says Hella >PBT GF 20< is this the correct model number?

I am going to end up drilling these things till i can fit an HID bulb in it, and don't want to screw up without a replacement.

DansSlk · 09-13-2006

I just want to double check here in the fogs lamps it goes
bulb - holder - housing
is that correct just want to be sure so i can get the right part.

noregret4life · 09-13-2006

That is correct

DansSlk · 09-14-2006

N 000000 000069

.BULB
FOGLAMP, HB-4 12V-55W
CODE -772

This should be the one you want mate it looks like bulb and holder are supplied as one according to the computer.

Hope this helps
Dan

noregret4life · 09-14-2006

Thanks Dan.
I will give the parts department a call and see how much they cost.

DansSlk · 09-14-2006

no problem mate

hope it is the right one for you it is all that was listed under holder for the fogs

noregret4life · 09-22-2006

Well according to MB no such part exists. I was told however that these holders may be a part of the entire fog light assembly and would explain why they are not assigned a seperate part number.

Lens has a part#
Gasket around the lens has a part#
Bulb has a part#
and the entire fog light has a Part#

Looks like i may be out of luck on this one. They ordered the wrong part for me already (sockets for the harness) so i doubt they can come up with these holders for me seperately from the entire fog light

Wallance · 09-22-2006

Oh btw, I was just wondiner would the HID fog lights be too hot for the those lens and cause damage to it? I had thought of switching my fogs to HID too but the guy that I go to said it might be too hot and crack the lens or sth. (well actually I switched my fog lights to some cheap H3 fogs cause the fog lights doesn't fit my new bumper.) so maybe the lens is even worse quality than the original mercedes' ones

noregret4life · 09-22-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wallance

Oh btw, I was just wondiner would the HID fog lights be too hot for the those lens and cause damage to it? I had thought of switching my fogs to HID too but the guy that I go to said it might be too hot and crack the lens or sth. (well actually I switched my fog lights to some cheap H3 fogs cause the fog lights doesn't fit my new bumper.) so maybe the lens is even worse quality than the original mercedes' ones

Acrtually the HID bulbs produce less heat then standard 55watt bulbs. So i'm not sure about what the guy told you. (not saying that he is wrong, on certain car models/lenses, this would be true if you upgraded from 35w to 55w)

You can actually pic up HID fog lights (whole fog light and bulb together already) and install those if you are already going 100% aftermarket on the fog lights. May be opt for a set with white halo rings built in

DansSlk · 09-22-2006

Hey buddy,

Sorry about the mistake again mate its due to the same problem that i stated in chat with the wrong pages set up.

Sorry

bazzle · 09-23-2006

Ive fitted HIDs to my R170 fogs. Work great, no real heat issues (35w)
Beam pattern is still flat with no flare, very happy Jan

Used 4500k generic off ebay, mine has H1 holders.

Bazzle

noregret4life · 09-23-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by bazzle

Ive fitted HIDs to my R170 fogs. Work great, no real heat issues (35w)
Beam pattern is still flat with no flare, very happy Jan

Used 4500k generic off ebay, mine has H1 holders.

Bazzle

You luck out Bazzle. On the R170 things were a whole lot easier. I take it you put HIDs in your low beams as well (or have stock) which is what i did when i had mine.

At MB dealer they had no clue what the hell i was talking about with these holders i am looking for. Shame i had to school them in there till the head manager came out to talk to me. Maybe i should ask for a job next time

Since i know BMWs use similar holders, i managed to find a guy on ebay that sells modded holders already adapted for aftermarket HID bulbs. Purchased a pair and hope they fit. Though the guy said he'd refund me if they didn't too, which was nice of him.

We'll see how it all turns out. Just hoping those holders are the same and fit my fog lights.

bazzle · 09-25-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by noregret4life

You luck out Bazzle. On the R170 things were a whole lot easier. I take it you put HIDs in your low beams as well (or have stock) which is what i did when i had mine.

At MB dealer they had no clue what the hell i was talking about with these holders i am looking for. Shame i had to school them in there till the head manager came out to talk to me. Maybe i should ask for a job next time

Since i know BMWs use similar holders, i managed to find a guy on ebay that sells modded holders already adapted for aftermarket HID bulbs. Purchased a pair and hope they fit. Though the guy said he'd refund me if they didn't too, which was nice of him.

We'll see how it all turns out. Just hoping those holders are the same and fit my fog lights.

Yes, I have HIDs in all Fog, Low and High beams

4500, 4500, 5000k

Bazzle

noregret4life · 09-30-2006

Great news for anyone with cornering foglights on an R171.

The BMW HID adapters i bought fit the fog lights almost perfectly. Only thing i had to do was thin down the little 3 clip pieces. (not an issue at all)

8000k HIDs have been fitted with H7 bulbs + adapters.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HID-x...QQcmdZViewItem

msfamilia · 03-29-2007

Thank you so much for you info.

This is great! I was just thinking about doing the same and now I have the solution from you.

by the way, can you let me know how the wiring from the ballast are connected to the stock bulb connectors?

-Jac

Quote:

Originally Posted by noregret4life

Great news for anyone with cornering foglights on an R171.

The BMW HID adapters i bought fit the fog lights almost perfectly. Only thing i had to do was thin down the little 3 clip pieces. (not an issue at all)

8000k HIDs have been fitted with H7 bulbs + adapters.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HID-x...QQcmdZViewItem

noregret4life · 03-30-2007

The balasts connect directly to the stock wire harnesses. Simple connect and you are done. But a pain installing the adapters.

Also, you will need to go to the dealership to have them disable the fog light cornering feature. Ballasts can't take the slow power up/power down that the cornering feature.

You could just always turn on your fog lights when you drive, but sometimes its a pain. So you should have it disabled.

Let me know if you need more help...

msfamilia · 03-30-2007

Ok so the connectors are plug and play.

I haven't check cause I am also on my own (yes, I am a loner....

)

does the cornering fog goes on in the day time with auto light shut off?

if not then it's ok. I can just turn on my fog whenever i turn on my headlight. It has always been a habit for me on my Mini Cooper anyway.

PS: please keep me updated on the Comand Nav module.

-Jac

Quote:

Originally Posted by noregret4life

The balasts connect directly to the stock wire harnesses. Simple connect and you are done. But a pain installing the adapters.

Also, you will need to go to the dealership to have them disable the fog light cornering feature. Ballasts can't take the slow power up/power down that the cornering feature.

You could just always turn on your fog lights when you drive, but sometimes its a pain. So you should have it disabled.

Let me know if you need more help...

noregret4life · 03-30-2007

The cornering fogs go on automatically on a turn at low speeds and with your turn signals in Auto mode, and i think in On mode as well. So if you install the HIDs, you would always had to have the fogs on when you turn on headlights.

I just found it being a pain because i would leave the switch in Auto, and then not notice the headlights turn on at dusk. then see the HIDs go crazy on the fog lights.

Sorry, no word back yet about the Command. Will keep on this guy.

msfamilia · 03-30-2007

thank you very much. I will just avoid using auto mode.

and please do let me know whenever you have news about the comand.

cheers

09-13-2006	#1 (permalink)
noregret4life Elite SLK World Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: NJ Vehicle: '05 SLK350 Posts: 1,092 Country: Thanks: 1 Thanked 17 Times in 11 Posts	R171 Fog Light Holder Part# Hey Dan, I ended up putting in the Silverstar bulbs into my fog lights but really didn't like them at all. There was almost no change in the color temp. They seemed to be slightly brighter, but still no where near HID color. Still left to try the various Jap bulbs. I think i am going to go through with the HID install for the fog lights, as it is sitting in my garage already. So i wanted to get a part number for those bulb holders in the "Cornering" foglights. Also have the cornering feature disabled next time i go in for service. On the holder itself it says Hella >PBT GF 20< is this the correct model number? I am going to end up drilling these things till i can fit an HID bulb in it, and don't want to screw up without a replacement.

09-13-2006	#2 (permalink)
DansSlk Dude Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wales Vehicle: 05 B55S (Brabus 6.1 S) Posts: 6,752 Country: Thanks: 96 Thanked 221 Times in 173 Posts	I just want to double check here in the fogs lamps it goes bulb - holder - housing is that correct just want to be sure so i can get the right part. __________________ One thing you will learn with German cars - If it's simple it ain't happening.

09-14-2006	#4 (permalink)
DansSlk Dude Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wales Vehicle: 05 B55S (Brabus 6.1 S) Posts: 6,752 Country: Thanks: 96 Thanked 221 Times in 173 Posts	N 000000 000069 .BULB FOGLAMP, HB-4 12V-55W CODE -772 This should be the one you want mate it looks like bulb and holder are supplied as one according to the computer. Hope this helps Dan __________________ One thing you will learn with German cars - If it's simple it ain't happening.

09-14-2006	#6 (permalink)
DansSlk Dude Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wales Vehicle: 05 B55S (Brabus 6.1 S) Posts: 6,752 Country: Thanks: 96 Thanked 221 Times in 173 Posts	no problem mate hope it is the right one for you it is all that was listed under holder for the fogs __________________ One thing you will learn with German cars - If it's simple it ain't happening.

09-22-2006	#10 (permalink)
DansSlk Dude Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wales Vehicle: 05 B55S (Brabus 6.1 S) Posts: 6,752 Country: Thanks: 96 Thanked 221 Times in 173 Posts	Hey buddy, Sorry about the mistake again mate its due to the same problem that i stated in chat with the wrong pages set up. Sorry __________________ One thing you will learn with German cars - If it's simple it ain't happening.

09-13-2006	#3 (permalink)
noregret4life Elite SLK World Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: NJ Vehicle: '05 SLK350 Posts: 1,092 Country: Thanks: 1 Thanked 17 Times in 11 Posts	That is correct

09-14-2006	#5 (permalink)
noregret4life Elite SLK World Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: NJ Vehicle: '05 SLK350 Posts: 1,092 Country: Thanks: 1 Thanked 17 Times in 11 Posts	Thanks Dan. I will give the parts department a call and see how much they cost.

09-22-2006	#7 (permalink)
noregret4life Elite SLK World Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: NJ Vehicle: '05 SLK350 Posts: 1,092 Country: Thanks: 1 Thanked 17 Times in 11 Posts	Well according to MB no such part exists. I was told however that these holders may be a part of the entire fog light assembly and would explain why they are not assigned a seperate part number. Lens has a part# Gasket around the lens has a part# Bulb has a part# and the entire fog light has a Part# Looks like i may be out of luck on this one. They ordered the wrong part for me already (sockets for the harness) so i doubt they can come up with these holders for me seperately from the entire fog light

09-22-2006	#8 (permalink)
Wallance Senior SLK World Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Vancouver Vehicle: SLK350 Posts: 158 Country: Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Oh btw, I was just wondiner would the HID fog lights be too hot for the those lens and cause damage to it? I had thought of switching my fogs to HID too but the guy that I go to said it might be too hot and crack the lens or sth. (well actually I switched my fog lights to some cheap H3 fogs cause the fog lights doesn't fit my new bumper.) so maybe the lens is even worse quality than the original mercedes' ones

09-23-2006	#11 (permalink)
bazzle Elite SLK World Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Melbourne Australia Vehicle: slk230 1998 Other Toys: Mercedes A Class W169, A 200 E Sport, (Cazzles) Posts: 211 Country: Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	Ive fitted HIDs to my R170 fogs. Work great, no real heat issues (35w) Beam pattern is still flat with no flare, very happy Jan Used 4500k generic off ebay, mine has H1 holders. Bazzle

09-30-2006	#14 (permalink)
noregret4life Elite SLK World Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: NJ Vehicle: '05 SLK350 Posts: 1,092 Country: Thanks: 1 Thanked 17 Times in 11 Posts	Great news for anyone with cornering foglights on an R171. The BMW HID adapters i bought fit the fog lights almost perfectly. Only thing i had to do was thin down the little 3 clip pieces. (not an issue at all) 8000k HIDs have been fitted with H7 bulbs + adapters. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HID-x...QQcmdZViewItem

03-30-2007	#16 (permalink)
noregret4life Elite SLK World Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: NJ Vehicle: '05 SLK350 Posts: 1,092 Country: Thanks: 1 Thanked 17 Times in 11 Posts	The balasts connect directly to the stock wire harnesses. Simple connect and you are done. But a pain installing the adapters. Also, you will need to go to the dealership to have them disable the fog light cornering feature. Ballasts can't take the slow power up/power down that the cornering feature. You could just always turn on your fog lights when you drive, but sometimes its a pain. So you should have it disabled. Let me know if you need more help...

03-30-2007	#18 (permalink)
noregret4life Elite SLK World Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: NJ Vehicle: '05 SLK350 Posts: 1,092 Country: Thanks: 1 Thanked 17 Times in 11 Posts	The cornering fogs go on automatically on a turn at low speeds and with your turn signals in Auto mode, and i think in On mode as well. So if you install the HIDs, you would always had to have the fogs on when you turn on headlights. I just found it being a pain because i would leave the switch in Auto, and then not notice the headlights turn on at dusk. then see the HIDs go crazy on the fog lights. Sorry, no word back yet about the Command. Will keep on this guy.

03-30-2007	#19 (permalink)
msfamilia Senior SLK World Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: SF Bay Area Vehicle: 2005 SLK 350 Posts: 119 Country: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thank you very much. I will just avoid using auto mode. and please do let me know whenever you have news about the comand. cheers

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