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Default Brake part nos. needed to retrofit '08 to '07

Hello Dan.

This may be premature, but it might help those who want to retrofit their 2008 SLK 55 brake system to the 2007, or those who want to upgrade to '05-'07 SLK 55 specs.

What parts are needed and what would the part numbers be? (I've enclosed P/N from Mercedes Benz Fast Moving parts e catalog, don't know if they're correct or not) Are the following all that is needed? Any other hardware needed?

FRONT BRAKES:
1. Brake discs (rotors), front, one pair, perforated and ventilated. (P/N 171-421-01-12)

2. Brake caliper, left front- 13.4" AMG 6-piston fixed. (P/N 003-420-67-83)

3. Brake caliper, right front - 13.4" AMG 6-piston fixed. (P/N 003-420-68-83)

4. Brake pad set, front. (P/N 004-420-50-20)
Do we need 2 sets of brake pads? One set for the left and another for the right?

REAR BRAKES:
5. Brake discs (rotors), rear, one pair, perforated and ventilated. (P/N 171-423-02-12)

6. Brake caliper, left rear - 13.0" AMG 4-piston fixed. (P/N 003-420-29-83)

7. Brake caliper, right rear - 13.0" AMG 4-piston fixed. (P/N 003-420-30-83)

8. Brake pad set, rear. (P/N 004-420-49-20)
Do we need 2 sets of brake pads? One for the left and another for the right?

I'll PM the VIN just to make sure.

Thank you a whole bunch for your help.
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Hey mate replied to your PM.

I will check these and get back to you.
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Here's my previous post regarding AMG brakes. http://www.slkworld.com/ask-dansslk-...akes-part.html

Here are the price list, cheaper than the dealer, I couldn't find prices for calipers, and any of the parts that Dan listed. If you get all that, please post it here and make it public, I'm interested and I'm sure others are too.

Item Number MSRP Core Price Price

0044204920 $162.00 $0.00 $115.83
Rear suspension - Brake components - Brake pads - Slk55
Slk55 2005 – 2007

0044205020 $179.00 $0.00 $146.78
Front suspension - Brake components - Brake pads - Slk55
Slk55 2005 – 2007

Item Number MSRP Core Price Price
1714230212 $180.00 $0.00 $147.60
Rear suspension - Brake components - Rotor - Slk55
Slk55 Back 2005 - 2007

Item Number MSRP Core Price Price
1714210112 $690.00 $0.00 $565.80
Front suspension - Brake components - Rotor - Slk55

Here's Dan's previous post, should be the same, but I would also check on the 030 pkg brakes, it's 14" front rotors, if the price isn't much different, that might be an option.

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Hi,

As you know both the AMG's and the Brembo's are one and the same but if you go for AMG's your probably going to be able to keep your warranty since the parts come via Mercedes Benz not direct from supplier and have certain MB numbers stamped in showing they are OEM, just a little something to think about and you could paint the AMG's whatever colour you want and that would not make any difference to it.

Going on the PN#'s that you posted up you are looking at the standard 55 brakes no 030/P98 packs so the part numbers you have posted up are correct for the disk and pad's and they come in two's along with the disks.

For the calipers its looks like your going to need -

Rear -

Caliper
Parts Set Left - A0034202983

Caliper
Parts Set Right - A0034203083

Retaining Spring
Caliper - A0004218791 (X2 unless its automatically done)

TS Bolt Parts Kit
Caliper - A0004202882 (Same as above)

Bleeder Valve
Caliper - A0004213765 (Same as above)

Dust Cap
Bleeder Valve - A0004211748 (Same as above)

Screw
Caliper to wheel bearing - N000000000265 (X4 unless the parts site does it for you, also may be able to use your current screws for this but not 100% sure)

Front -

Caliper
Parts Set Left - A0034204783

Caliper
Parts Set Right - A0034204883

Screw
Caliper to axle - A1244210571 (Same as the rear caliper screw info)

TS Bolt Parts Kit
Caliper - A0004213674 (Same as rear caliper info)

Spring
Caliper - A0004219291 (X2 Unless done automatically)

Pull Rod
Caliper - A2214210014 (Same as above)

Screw
Pull Rod - A0169900601 (Same as above)

Bleeder Valve
Caliper - A0004209155 (X4 Unless automatic)

Dust Cap
Bleeder Valve - A0004211748 (Same as above)

OK mate thats the full kit for 55 brakes whats already on the 350 thats compatible i don't know without actually having the parts on my desk to compare so i thought if i give you the whole list for the system then there's not going to be anything that will jump out at the last minute.

Hope this helps.

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Thats the list, cheers Ynot was just going to post up again
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Would one notice much difference between the 07 "std" AMG brakes vs the 030 brake set up? If if ever won the lotto, would an upgrade be the thing to do, Dan?

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Dan,

I'm planning to retrofit the rear brakes first, as the front set looks acceptable (appearance wise, but not sure about performance, probably a non-issue if one doesn't track the vehicle, wife/mate would "kill" me anyway if I plan on racing). Do you think this will be a simple swap procedure? Will the mounts for the rear brakes be different? Are the mounts included with the rear calipers?

Would Mercedes Benz be the best place to try (at least on initial inquiry)? I may also get quotes from an indy nearby that does MB, BMW, Porsches and Audi's.

Would aftermarket brake kits be a more cost effective alternative (e.g. Brabus)?
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Since I have all the parts number, I decided to do the research for rear brakes, if anyone is interested. The total price comes to $1,240.95 w/o shipping on http://www.oempartsdirect.com/

Description Qty MSRP Price Your Price Core Price Total Cost
Mechanical Catalog - Mercedes-Benz
Rotor, slk350, slk280, slk55 amg 2006 - 2007 $180.00 $147.60 $0.00 $147.60 Delete From Cart
Mechanical Catalog - Mercedes-Benz
Caliper, slk55 amg, left 2005 - 2007 $570.00 $467.40 $0.00 $467.40 Delete From Cart
Mechanical Catalog - Mercedes-Benz
Caliper, slk55 amg, right 2005 - 2007 $570.00 $467.40 $0.00 $467.40 Delete From Cart
OEM Catalog
SPRING, BRAK $10.50 $8.61 $0.00 $8.61 Delete From Cart
OEM Catalog
THRUST PIN $9.75 $8.00 $0.00 $8.00 Delete From Cart
OEM Catalog
BLEEDER VALV $6.50 $5.33 $0.00 $5.33 Delete From Cart
OEM Catalog
DUST CAP FOR $2.40 $1.97 $0.00 $1.97 Delete From Cart
OEM Catalog
SCREW $2.20 $1.80 $0.00 $1.80 Delete From Cart
Mechanical Catalog - Mercedes-Benz
Rear pads, slk350, slk280, slk55 amg 2006 - 2007 $162.00 $132.84 $0.00 $132.84 Delete From Cart
Total: $1,240.95
Estimated Shipping: $37.23
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okay, I decided to do the front brakes as well, there are two parts that I can't find, Pull Rod - Caliper - A2214210014 and Screw - Pull Rod - A0169900601,

Description Qty MSRP Price Your Price Core Price Total Cost
Collision Catalog - Mercedes-Benz
Slk55 Back 2005 - 2007 $690.00 $565.80 $0.00 $565.80 Delete From Cart
Mechanical Catalog - Mercedes-Benz
Caliper, slk55 amg, left 2005 - 2007 $720.00 $590.40 $0.00 $590.40 Delete From Cart
Mechanical Catalog - Mercedes-Benz
Caliper, slk55 amg, right 2005 - 2007 $720.00 $590.40 $0.00 $590.40 Delete From Cart
Collision Catalog - Mercedes-Benz
Slk55 2005 - 2007 $179.00 $146.78 $0.00 $146.78 Delete From Cart
OEM Catalog
SCREW $3.50 $2.87 $0.00 $2.87 Delete From Cart
OEM Catalog
THRUST PIN $15.50 $12.71 $0.00 $12.71 Delete From Cart
OEM Catalog
SPRING $22.00 $18.04 $0.00 $18.04 Delete From Cart
OEM Catalog
REPAIR KIT $5.50 $4.51 $0.00 $4.51 Delete From Cart
OEM Catalog
DUST CAP FOR $2.40 $1.97 $0.00 $1.97 Delete From Cart
Total: $1,933.48
Estimated Shipping: $58.00
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I found the link to Thano's BBK thread, lots of good info, if you want to upgrade http://www.benzworld.org/forums/r171...ghlight=brakes

Checked Brembo's for the SLK at JLevi's and the AMG brakes seems to be cheaper.

http://jlevistreetwerks.com/store/Me...53a1ba21d8719a
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Thanks Ynot. I do believe some of the comments makes sense, e.g.:

"friends installed brembo brakes, fronts and rears, spent a lot of money, and the only thing they succeeded was that the ABS system occurred more often. ok and in hard braking they discs were less heated that the stock ones."

"One friend of mine upgarded his brakes (i think he put MOVIT brakes) into his Mercedes Sport coupe and although he spent a lot of money, he wasnt satisfied at all...
I remember the ABS system of the car occuring all the time and it became very annoying at the end...I think with SLK200 and 163hp the brakes are ok, most people believe they should upgrade them just for marketing reason without a real need."

"In a prior car I owned I upgraded the brakes and that is when I started having problems, warped rotors, etc."

I would appreciate opinions on the above comments.
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Are these cars so high tech now that if you do install 07 hardware you don't have to find the valve that adjusts front/rear bias and make some sort of adjustment?
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Are these cars so high tech now that if you do install 07 hardware you don't have to find the valve that adjusts front/rear bias and make some sort of adjustment?
Good question web, we'll wait for DansSLK's (guru) opinion. I'll also try to ask this question hopefully to a MB technician who specializes in AMG/AMG brakes.
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No, 030/P30 is purely cosmetic if you wanted more stopping power you would fit 19" wheels and install SL brakes or you could go for the the more expensive carbon option that can stop the car on a dime.
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Dan,

I'm planning to retrofit the rear brakes first, as the front set looks acceptable (appearance wise, but not sure about performance, probably a non-issue if one doesn't track the vehicle, wife/mate would "kill" me anyway if I plan on racing). Do you think this will be a simple swap procedure? Will the mounts for the rear brakes be different? Are the mounts included with the rear calipers?

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Would aftermarket brake kits be a more cost effective alternative (e.g. Brabus)?
It should be a very simple procedure Eddy, as i said in the PM Marc is going to get some photos for me so i can be sure before saying 100% but if the mounts are the same its plug and play (almost).

I'd go to MB first then check out the Indy don't bother with the tuners if you actually take a look at the systems you will see they are all based on the same Brembo unit as the AMG's unless you go for very expensive carbon.
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Thanks Ynot. I do believe some of the comments makes sense, e.g.:

"friends installed brembo brakes, fronts and rears, spent a lot of money, and the only thing they succeeded was that the ABS system occurred more often. ok and in hard braking they discs were less heated that the stock ones."

"One friend of mine upgarded his brakes (i think he put MOVIT brakes) into his Mercedes Sport coupe and although he spent a lot of money, he wasnt satisfied at all...
I remember the ABS system of the car occuring all the time and it became very annoying at the end...I think with SLK200 and 163hp the brakes are ok, most people believe they should upgrade them just for marketing reason without a real need."

"In a prior car I owned I upgraded the brakes and that is when I started having problems, warped rotors, etc."

I would appreciate opinions on the above comments.
You wont have a problem on the 55 if they where stupid enough to put fat brakes onto a 200 then they are going to have problems because the brakes will lock the wheel almost instantly, in the big heavy AMG you wont have any problems.

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Its all controlled by the ESP, no need to mess with it at all it should work it out by itself
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Thanks Ynot. I do believe some of the comments makes sense, e.g.:

"friends installed brembo brakes, fronts and rears, spent a lot of money, and the only thing they succeeded was that the ABS system occurred more often. ok and in hard braking they discs were less heated that the stock ones."

"One friend of mine upgarded his brakes (i think he put MOVIT brakes) into his Mercedes Sport coupe and although he spent a lot of money, he wasnt satisfied at all...
I remember the ABS system of the car occuring all the time and it became very annoying at the end...I think with SLK200 and 163hp the brakes are ok, most people believe they should upgrade them just for marketing reason without a real need."

"In a prior car I owned I upgraded the brakes and that is when I started having problems, warped rotors, etc."

I would appreciate opinions on the above comments.
I was surprised by some of the comments, I know people with BBK's (Big Brake Kit's) and no one really has any problems. The only problem they have is, it doesn't stop better than OEM, but love the way it looks. I assume if you don't attach the sensors correctly then you have have problems with ABS, ESP, etc..

Warped rotors could be a result of abuse, a lot of people test their brakes after they get it installed on the track, then heat them up and when parked, pull their hand brakes.

It looks to me like an easy installation with the proper tools, of course everything looks easy until you start working on it.
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