6 Disc Changer

pawnman5 · 05-30-2007

Dan,
('05 SLK350 (R171) USA S#WDBWK56F85F043453

I would like to move the 6 Disc Changer out of the front glove box and relocate it in the trunk next to the NAV cd unit. Is there a cable extention I can purchase to do the job? Or do I need to build one myself. Would there be any problem with current levels or flow in the system to move the changer? Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Pawnman5

**DansSlk** · 05-30-2007

It could be done mate yeah thats not a problem.

You would need to build a bracket for it yourself and maybe use some good adhesive to bond it to the tank carrier because all the brackets behind there are full up and its all magnesium so i would not recommend drilling more holes.

The changer has to be in the correct orientation so would need to install it next to the nav processor or somewhere it can sit on its belly like it is now.

You could then close the MOST loop in the glovebox and create an opening after the navi and insert the changer into the loop there, the +12 GND and Wake lines need to be extended into the trunk from the glovebox if you can use a soldering iron then the easiest thing to do would be cut the 3 wires solder on new cable lengths and then solder the connector back on the end of the new wire because i am unaware of any extension adapter for the harness to simply plug in.

It can be done if your handy with tools and it would need the SDS to recode the MOST to the new loop config but thats a 5 minute job at most.

pawnman5 · 05-30-2007

Could I just extend all the wires that are hooked to the unit and then plug it back in without having to recode the loop?

Thanks
Pawnman5

**DansSlk** · 05-30-2007

No MOST is optical fiber to extend it would create a loop bigger than the system can handle.

You would need to close the loop in the glovebox and open it in the trunk

**-1-** · 05-30-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by pawnman5

Dan,
('05 SLK350 (R171) USA S#WDBWK56F85F043453

I would like to move the 6 Disc Changer out of the front glove box and relocate it in the trunk next to the NAV cd unit. Is there a cable extention I can purchase to do the job? Or do I need to build one myself. Would there be any problem with current levels or flow in the system to move the changer? Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Pawnman5

Hey Pawnman5, I admire your spunk with your desire to move the six disc cd changer from the glove box to the trunk. Curious, what's your logic for the move? I see very little gain for the amount of work and potential problems you'll encounter. Personally, the less I change the original configuration of my car, the better I feel.

pawnman5 · 05-30-2007

Mainly, because I only use the changer if I'm traveling and I could load 6 disc in it in the trunk with no problem. It would be nice to have the glove box for my wife to put items in (It's a wife thing...) and after 31 yrs. with the same beautiful woman, I try to keep her happy. (She is the one that talked me into buying the SLK) She calls it my Mid-Life crisis car. I also didn't know it was optical fiber, I thought I could just solder in wire extentions and re-plug it in. Now I'll have to give it a long hard look.
Thanks, Dan & -1-

Pawnman5

**DansSlk** · 05-31-2007

Its not exactly an expensive job and working with MOST is easy enough you just need to be careful you don't snap the stuff.

Your call mate if you need any help with it you know where i am

**DesignoSLK** · 05-31-2007

Dan,

Is the optical cabling different b/w the 171 and 170? Because, as you know, the changer on the 170 is in the trunk. Would it not be possible to use a 170 cable to relocate the changer in the 171?

Just thinking out loud...sort of.

**DansSlk** · 05-31-2007

I believe the optical fiber itself is the same and just the data standard it runs is different but its not so much the fiber itself thats the problem because of the SLK's Phone and Navi systems being in the trunk the necessary fiber is already there and you can buy small extensions from MB to hook up devices.

The problem is you would not be able to have a strand that long without repeaters because the fiber runs around the car in a loop you would be going from the front to the back and then to the front again and you would start getting signal degradation so you would buy a small adapter from MB to join the loop where you removed the changer and as i mentioned above open the loop and insert MB's extension in the trunk.

412driver · 05-31-2007

I spoke to the car stereo shop owner here about such a move and working with MB system. He advises it is simple if you are familiar with the way it works, further said most good shops can do in an hour or so about $50-$75.00/ For me that would be cheap insurance if I found a shop I trusted. Just a thought......

Erkybaby · 05-31-2007

Just a quick question about the 6 disc autochanger, is it a difficult job to install one into a car without one (Audio20)?

Thanks

**DansSlk** · 05-31-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erkybaby

Just a quick question about the 6 disc autochanger, is it a difficult job to install one into a car without one (Audio20)?

Thanks

No not really.

Install the bracket, retofit some fiber and rig up a wake up bus with a connection to power

Erkybaby · 06-01-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by DansSlk

No not really.

Install the bracket, retofit some fiber and rig up a wake up bus with a connection to power

Do you know how much MB charge for this, someone at the MB dealer mentioned a figure of £500 plus the changer and bracket!

**DansSlk** · 06-01-2007

Changer is £400 then the brackets at MB's prices say £50ish.

Then the wiring, fiber and connectors prob looking at £550/600 for the whole thing mate with install.

If you installed yourself obviously less but depends on how confident you are.

Erkybaby · 06-09-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by DansSlk

Changer is £400 then the brackets at MB's prices say £50ish.

Then the wiring, fiber and connectors prob looking at £550/600 for the whole thing mate with install.

If you installed yourself obviously less but depends on how confident you are.

Dan, the dealership is quoting me 2.5 to 3 hours labour at approx £128 per hour to fit this

Any recommendations on where I might be able to get it done for £500 - £600 all in, rather then £900ish!

Thanks

**DansSlk** · 06-09-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erkybaby

Dan, the dealership is quoting me 2.5 to 3 hours labour at approx £128 per hour to fit this

Any recommendations on where I might be able to get it done for £500 - £600 all in, rather then £900ish!

Thanks

Not around London mate no sorry they all charge about the same.

How confident are you with a screwdriver?

Erkybaby · 06-09-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by DansSlk

Not around London mate no sorry they all charge about the same.

How confident are you with a screwdriver?

Funny thing is about 10 years ago I use to install high end ICE systems!
For some reason though I don't feel at all confident these days!

However I don't mind travelling if it's going to save me a packet.
Dan do you think I'm better of saving my cash and maybe having a Command system retro fitted?
This is possible, isn't it?

**DansSlk** · 06-09-2007

Retro-fitting a COMAND is a very expensive venture mate.

Might be worth giving some dealers outside the London area a call and asking for quotes

Erkybaby · 06-09-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by DansSlk

Retro-fitting a COMAND is a very expensive venture mate.

Might be worth giving some dealers outside the London area a call and asking for quotes

What kinda price we looking at 3K'ish?

Can you recommend a good dealer outside of London Dan?

**DansSlk** · 06-09-2007

No mate probably more like 3k in parts.

Labour is the killer, needs a new wiring harness and the AGW fitting along with the Nav module it all add's up.

It used to be a simple swap and still is on some of the cars but the smaller models have the parts spread out over the car and that makes it really hard to work on.

05-30-2007	#1 (permalink)
pawnman5 SLK World Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Broken Arrow, Oklahoma Vehicle: 2005 SLK350 Posts: 33 Country: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	6 Disc Changer Dan, ('05 SLK350 (R171) USA S#WDBWK56F85F043453 I would like to move the 6 Disc Changer out of the front glove box and relocate it in the trunk next to the NAV cd unit. Is there a cable extention I can purchase to do the job? Or do I need to build one myself. Would there be any problem with current levels or flow in the system to move the changer? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Pawnman5

05-30-2007	#2 (permalink)
DansSlk Dude Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wales Vehicle: 05 B55S (Brabus 6.1 S) Posts: 6,801 Country: Thanks: 99 Thanked 236 Times in 180 Posts	It could be done mate yeah thats not a problem. You would need to build a bracket for it yourself and maybe use some good adhesive to bond it to the tank carrier because all the brackets behind there are full up and its all magnesium so i would not recommend drilling more holes. The changer has to be in the correct orientation so would need to install it next to the nav processor or somewhere it can sit on its belly like it is now. You could then close the MOST loop in the glovebox and create an opening after the navi and insert the changer into the loop there, the +12 GND and Wake lines need to be extended into the trunk from the glovebox if you can use a soldering iron then the easiest thing to do would be cut the 3 wires solder on new cable lengths and then solder the connector back on the end of the new wire because i am unaware of any extension adapter for the harness to simply plug in. It can be done if your handy with tools and it would need the SDS to recode the MOST to the new loop config but thats a 5 minute job at most. __________________ One thing you will learn with German cars - If it's simple it ain't happening.

05-30-2007	#4 (permalink)
DansSlk Dude Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wales Vehicle: 05 B55S (Brabus 6.1 S) Posts: 6,801 Country: Thanks: 99 Thanked 236 Times in 180 Posts	No MOST is optical fiber to extend it would create a loop bigger than the system can handle. You would need to close the loop in the glovebox and open it in the trunk __________________ One thing you will learn with German cars - If it's simple it ain't happening.

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DansSlk Dude Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wales Vehicle: 05 B55S (Brabus 6.1 S) Posts: 6,801 Country: Thanks: 99 Thanked 236 Times in 180 Posts	Its not exactly an expensive job and working with MOST is easy enough you just need to be careful you don't snap the stuff. Your call mate if you need any help with it you know where i am __________________ One thing you will learn with German cars - If it's simple it ain't happening.

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05-30-2007	#3 (permalink)
pawnman5 SLK World Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Broken Arrow, Oklahoma Vehicle: 2005 SLK350 Posts: 33 Country: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Could I just extend all the wires that are hooked to the unit and then plug it back in without having to recode the loop? Thanks Pawnman5

05-30-2007	#6 (permalink)
pawnman5 SLK World Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Broken Arrow, Oklahoma Vehicle: 2005 SLK350 Posts: 33 Country: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Mainly, because I only use the changer if I'm traveling and I could load 6 disc in it in the trunk with no problem. It would be nice to have the glove box for my wife to put items in (It's a wife thing...) and after 31 yrs. with the same beautiful woman, I try to keep her happy. (She is the one that talked me into buying the SLK) She calls it my Mid-Life crisis car. I also didn't know it was optical fiber, I thought I could just solder in wire extentions and re-plug it in. Now I'll have to give it a long hard look. Thanks, Dan & -1- Pawnman5

05-31-2007	#9 (permalink)
DansSlk Dude Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wales Vehicle: 05 B55S (Brabus 6.1 S) Posts: 6,801 Country: Thanks: 99 Thanked 236 Times in 180 Posts	I believe the optical fiber itself is the same and just the data standard it runs is different but its not so much the fiber itself thats the problem because of the SLK's Phone and Navi systems being in the trunk the necessary fiber is already there and you can buy small extensions from MB to hook up devices. The problem is you would not be able to have a strand that long without repeaters because the fiber runs around the car in a loop you would be going from the front to the back and then to the front again and you would start getting signal degradation so you would buy a small adapter from MB to join the loop where you removed the changer and as i mentioned above open the loop and insert MB's extension in the trunk. __________________ One thing you will learn with German cars - If it's simple it ain't happening.

05-31-2007	#10 (permalink)
412driver Elite SLK World Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Salisbury North Carolina USA Vehicle: 99 SLK230 Other Toys: TOO MANY TOYS Posts: 1,010 Country: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I spoke to the car stereo shop owner here about such a move and working with MB system. He advises it is simple if you are familiar with the way it works, further said most good shops can do in an hour or so about $50-$75.00/ For me that would be cheap insurance if I found a shop I trusted. Just a thought......

05-31-2007	#11 (permalink)
Erkybaby Senior SLK World Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: London, UK Vehicle: Edition 10 SLK 200 Posts: 175 Country: Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Just a quick question about the 6 disc autochanger, is it a difficult job to install one into a car without one (Audio20)? Thanks

06-01-2007	#14 (permalink)
DansSlk Dude Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wales Vehicle: 05 B55S (Brabus 6.1 S) Posts: 6,801 Country: Thanks: 99 Thanked 236 Times in 180 Posts	Changer is £400 then the brackets at MB's prices say £50ish. Then the wiring, fiber and connectors prob looking at £550/600 for the whole thing mate with install. If you installed yourself obviously less but depends on how confident you are. __________________ One thing you will learn with German cars - If it's simple it ain't happening.

06-09-2007	#18 (permalink)
DansSlk Dude Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wales Vehicle: 05 B55S (Brabus 6.1 S) Posts: 6,801 Country: Thanks: 99 Thanked 236 Times in 180 Posts	Retro-fitting a COMAND is a very expensive venture mate. Might be worth giving some dealers outside the London area a call and asking for quotes __________________ One thing you will learn with German cars - If it's simple it ain't happening.

06-09-2007	#20 (permalink)
DansSlk Dude Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wales Vehicle: 05 B55S (Brabus 6.1 S) Posts: 6,801 Country: Thanks: 99 Thanked 236 Times in 180 Posts	No mate probably more like 3k in parts. Labour is the killer, needs a new wiring harness and the AGW fitting along with the Nav module it all add's up. It used to be a simple swap and still is on some of the cars but the smaller models have the parts spread out over the car and that makes it really hard to work on. __________________ One thing you will learn with German cars - If it's simple it ain't happening.

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