AMG Transmissions - Anything new?

Silver_Lana · 02-01-2008

Hey guys... anyone know of anything new coming down the line for AMG transmissions?
I had heard of a DSG type tranny being developed - maybe AMG has seen the light

**alroumi** · 02-01-2008

I hope they do, the SLK owners have been demanding faster shifts ever since. The Fastest setup they have got are on the CLK63 BS and SLR 722.

**Ynot** · 02-01-2008

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Originally Posted by Silver_Lana

Hey guys... anyone know of anything new coming down the line for AMG transmissions?
I had heard of a DSG type tranny being developed - maybe AMG has seen the light

Yep, AMG is way behind, porsche/audi has DSG, lambo has e-gear, ferraris has F1, BMW has SMG, and MB has the traditional slush box, really sad, IMO. I guess they don't think MB drivers cares for fast shifts.

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Originally Posted by alroumi

I hope they do, the SLK owners have been demanding faster shifts ever since. The Fastest setup they have got are on the CLK63 BS and SLR 722.

Even those aren't that good, heard they have just a little bit better software, MB needs the real thing.

DansSlk · 02-01-2008

The 722 uses the 5 Spd box to get the fastest shifts it can.

I wouldn't expect to see anything for the 55 engine, its making its way toward the exit so i don't see any reason for AMG to develop a box for it.

The 63/5 is another matter altogether.

**F111F** · 02-04-2008

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Originally Posted by DansSlk

The 722 uses the 5 Spd box to get the fastest shifts it can.

I wouldn't expect to see anything for the 55 engine, its making its way toward the exit so i don't see any reason for AMG to develop a box for it.

The 63/5 is another matter altogether.

It isn't that bad of an engine. With some simple mods, it could put out 400hp (ala Black Series).
It takes a beating and keeps on kicking.

DansSlk · 02-04-2008

I totally agree in fact I've defended it on this forum before, i think its a sledgehammer of an engine awesome bit of kit.

What i meant was AMG are phasing it out and since every transmission must be customized for each model and engine it doesn't make any sense for AMG to develop a new box for the 171 113 and have it totally redundant when the 171 goes out of production.

They are more likely to focus on 172.

Tslick · 02-04-2008

In the last month with the new AMG face lift, AMG claims a revised G7 thats 10% faster shifting with real manual mode... so they say along with new steering geometry/mechanisms.

DansSlk · 02-04-2008

I've not been following much of the facelift stuff to be honest but i know the steering geometry has been changed slightly so i guess your referring to the 171 with the gearbox comment also mate.

10% faster is probably what i have achieved its all just software and software lag, simple enough to work with.

blackseries · 03-02-2008

yes, something like DSG would be faster, but the current auto is the most reliable unit.

Ikarus · 03-02-2008

http://www.slkworld.com/general-disc...sg-coming.html

Ikarus · 03-12-2008

Car and Driver just test-drove the SL63 AMG with the new transmission.

**F111F** · 03-13-2008

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Originally Posted by DansSlk

I've not been following much of the facelift stuff to be honest but i know the steering geometry has been changed slightly so i guess your referring to the 171 with the gearbox comment also mate.

10% faster is probably what i have achieved its all just software and software lag, simple enough to work with.

How did you mod the sofware?

**alroumi** · 03-13-2008

You can notice how effective the new Gearing system on the AMG's are at the end of this clip showing the SL63 AMG.

DansSlk · 03-13-2008

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Originally Posted by F111F

How did you mod the sofware?

Not sure i understand mate?

I copied it off of the controller onto DAS then onto my machine, modded it and put it back onto the controller.

**F111F** · 03-14-2008

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Originally Posted by DansSlk

Not sure i understand mate?

I copied it off of the controller onto DAS then onto my machine, modded it and put it back onto the controller.

Okay, understand. I haven't noticed a problem, except under heavy excelleration at higher speeds, you can really "feel" the transmission go to the next gear (sort of a jerk?). But still, AMG still shifts faster than almost everyone with a manual, so I am happy!!!!

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alroumi Moderator Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Kuwait City, Kuwait Vehicle: 2006 Kleemann Designo Mocha Black SLK55 AMG Other Toys: 2007 Ebony Jaguar XKR Coupe' and 06 Black Cayenne S Posts: 6,271 Country: Thanks: 288 Thanked 231 Times in 145 Posts	I hope they do, the SLK owners have been demanding faster shifts ever since. The Fastest setup they have got are on the CLK63 BS and SLR 722. __________________ 06 Kleemann Designo Mocha Black SLK55 AMG 06 Porsche Cayenne S 07 Jaguar XKR Coupe' I use the Torque and keep the HP for my Steak Sauce!

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DansSlk Dude Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wales Vehicle: 05 B55S (Brabus 6.1 S) Posts: 6,752 Country: Thanks: 96 Thanked 221 Times in 173 Posts	The 722 uses the 5 Spd box to get the fastest shifts it can. I wouldn't expect to see anything for the 55 engine, its making its way toward the exit so i don't see any reason for AMG to develop a box for it. The 63/5 is another matter altogether. __________________ One thing you will learn with German cars - If it's simple it ain't happening.

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DansSlk Dude Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wales Vehicle: 05 B55S (Brabus 6.1 S) Posts: 6,752 Country: Thanks: 96 Thanked 221 Times in 173 Posts	I totally agree in fact I've defended it on this forum before, i think its a sledgehammer of an engine awesome bit of kit. What i meant was AMG are phasing it out and since every transmission must be customized for each model and engine it doesn't make any sense for AMG to develop a new box for the 171 113 and have it totally redundant when the 171 goes out of production. They are more likely to focus on 172. __________________ One thing you will learn with German cars - If it's simple it ain't happening.

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DansSlk Dude Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wales Vehicle: 05 B55S (Brabus 6.1 S) Posts: 6,752 Country: Thanks: 96 Thanked 221 Times in 173 Posts	I've not been following much of the facelift stuff to be honest but i know the steering geometry has been changed slightly so i guess your referring to the 171 with the gearbox comment also mate. 10% faster is probably what i have achieved its all just software and software lag, simple enough to work with. __________________ One thing you will learn with German cars - If it's simple it ain't happening.

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Tslick Elite SLK World Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Long Beach, Ca Vehicle: SLK32 AMG Posts: 1,326 Country: Thanks: 74 Thanked 56 Times in 29 Posts	In the last month with the new AMG face lift, AMG claims a revised G7 thats 10% faster shifting with real manual mode... so they say along with new steering geometry/mechanisms.

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blackseries SLK World Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 17 Country: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	yes, something like DSG would be faster, but the current auto is the most reliable unit.

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Ikarus Elite SLK World Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NorCal Vehicle: 2006 SLK 280 w. 6M Other Toys: 2000 New Beetle GLS w. 5M Posts: 596 Country: Thanks: 18 Thanked 40 Times in 20 Posts	Car and Driver just test-drove the SL63 AMG with the new transmission.

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alroumi Moderator Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Kuwait City, Kuwait Vehicle: 2006 Kleemann Designo Mocha Black SLK55 AMG Other Toys: 2007 Ebony Jaguar XKR Coupe' and 06 Black Cayenne S Posts: 6,271 Country: Thanks: 288 Thanked 231 Times in 145 Posts	You can notice how effective the new Gearing system on the AMG's are at the end of this clip showing the SL63 AMG. __________________ 06 Kleemann Designo Mocha Black SLK55 AMG 06 Porsche Cayenne S 07 Jaguar XKR Coupe' I use the Torque and keep the HP for my Steak Sauce!

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