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**DansSlk** · 06-05-2007

Hi Doug mate,
Of course i am certainly not trying to say that you should hide the cars history from anybody and its not something i would consider doing for moral reasons more than anything else.

The point i was trying to get across and you and F111F have both correctly understood it is that the track is not a very stressful place for a car its just a myth thats passed down that a track involving high speeds considerable brake use and all the rest of it is very bad for a car when ultimately its car heaven the road is the worst place for them because of factors outside of the owners control.

For legal reasons i am not allowed to buy cars from my own shop so i go to the closest dealer for purchases and in selling my M3 all i was asked was has it had the 1000 mile service completed they did not even ask to see the log book or inquire about its history now the car has been tracked but was very well cared for and i don't have that nagging feeling some poor bugger has a M3 thats giving them loads of crap i know it will be performing well for them and if the salesman had asked i would of course informed him of the cars on track use but he didn't so he knows nothing of it.

I guess my point with that is (and if we use the house example here) if i was selling one with foundation problems then of course everybody in the sales process would be made aware so that the buyer makes the informed choice to buy the house and attempt to fix it or not bother but if the house had suffered a failed plumbing joint i would not inform anybody of that unless questioned because it has no effect on the home whatsoever, same with a car if i was selling something with a leaking head gasket the buyer would be made aware of that even before they viewed the car but if the same car needed a new brake caliper the buyer would not be told because they don't need to know the problem has been fixed and thats all there is to it, i guess thats how i feel about track use also its not something that will have any negative effects on the car it wont shorten its life or cause it to underperfom so the buyer does not need to know because its irrelevant of course if i was directly asked has this car been driven in any track situation i would tell them the truth.

I think of all the people out there constantly doing 0-60 runs and 1/4 trap times just for the hell of it now buyers of those cars should be made aware of that because its not good for the car but do you think it ever gets mentioned? i would guess a few times outta every million you know. (Must have been writing this at the same time as Edward and he has hit on the same point about hard driving)

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DansSlk Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wales Vehicle: 05 55 (Brabus 6.1 S) Posts: 6,955 Country: Thanks: 116 Thanked 300 Times in 208 Posts	Hi Doug mate, Of course i am certainly not trying to say that you should hide the cars history from anybody and its not something i would consider doing for moral reasons more than anything else. The point i was trying to get across and you and F111F have both correctly understood it is that the track is not a very stressful place for a car its just a myth thats passed down that a track involving high speeds considerable brake use and all the rest of it is very bad for a car when ultimately its car heaven the road is the worst place for them because of factors outside of the owners control. For legal reasons i am not allowed to buy cars from my own shop so i go to the closest dealer for purchases and in selling my M3 all i was asked was has it had the 1000 mile service completed they did not even ask to see the log book or inquire about its history now the car has been tracked but was very well cared for and i don't have that nagging feeling some poor bugger has a M3 thats giving them loads of crap i know it will be performing well for them and if the salesman had asked i would of course informed him of the cars on track use but he didn't so he knows nothing of it. I guess my point with that is (and if we use the house example here) if i was selling one with foundation problems then of course everybody in the sales process would be made aware so that the buyer makes the informed choice to buy the house and attempt to fix it or not bother but if the house had suffered a failed plumbing joint i would not inform anybody of that unless questioned because it has no effect on the home whatsoever, same with a car if i was selling something with a leaking head gasket the buyer would be made aware of that even before they viewed the car but if the same car needed a new brake caliper the buyer would not be told because they don't need to know the problem has been fixed and thats all there is to it, i guess thats how i feel about track use also its not something that will have any negative effects on the car it wont shorten its life or cause it to underperfom so the buyer does not need to know because its irrelevant of course if i was directly asked has this car been driven in any track situation i would tell them the truth. I think of all the people out there constantly doing 0-60 runs and 1/4 trap times just for the hell of it now buyers of those cars should be made aware of that because its not good for the car but do you think it ever gets mentioned? i would guess a few times outta every million you know. (Must have been writing this at the same time as Edward and he has hit on the same point about hard driving) __________________ One thing you will learn with German cars - If it's simple it ain't happening.